History Headscratchers / SuperMarioBros

24th May '17 10:00:57 PM sugaricequeen
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** ^ That's up to your own interpretation - I personally think that common sense dictates which games should be viewed as connected canonically and which ones aren't, such as a semi-clear timeline between ''64'', ''Sunshine'', ''Galaxy'' and ''Galaxy 2'', ''Luigi's Mansion'' and its sequel, and maybe a few others. The ''Paper Mario'' games explicitly only exist inside a book in the actual Mushroom Universe, the premises of the spin-offs, such as the ''Mario Kart'', ''Mario Party'', and the ''Mario Sports'' games, would all be too outlandish to have a place within the regular continuity, and many of the references made between these different games are just meant to be offhand nods to each other, not a concrete sign that they must all connected. It's not like you'd consider ''Super Smash Bros.'' canon with ''The Legend of Zelda'' just because it has Link and Zelda in it, after all.
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24th May '17 9:54:11 PM sugaricequeen
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** I can accept that the Paper Mario games exist in their own separate continuity, but wasn't their world and that of the main series brought together in ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam''? I could easily imagine Paper Bowser detailing the time he and Paper Peach actually ''had'' gotten themselves married to each other. Even if this logic falls flat, though, from a developmental standpoint, it still seems ironic that they seem to be using that as a plot point.
23rd Apr '17 9:11:42 PM Golondrina
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*** [[WordOfGod According to Miyamoto]], the characters in the Mario series are actors playing roles, in the same way that characters like Popeye, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny do in their series. So we can see different series within the franchise as different roles - sometimes Mario plays an adventurer, sometimes he plays a doctor, and sometimes he plays the CEO of a toy company. As to why he's always called Mario... it's presumably a similar case to old film stars like CharlieChaplin and BusterKeaton, who played the same character with different backgrounds in pretty much all their films.

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*** [[WordOfGod According to Miyamoto]], the characters in the Mario series are actors playing roles, in the same way that characters like Popeye, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny do in their series. So we can see different series within the franchise as different roles - sometimes Mario plays an adventurer, sometimes he plays a doctor, and sometimes he plays the CEO of a toy company. As to why he's always called Mario... it's presumably a similar case to old film stars like CharlieChaplin Creator/CharlieChaplin and BusterKeaton, Creator/BusterKeaton, who played the same character with different backgrounds in pretty much all their films.
22nd Apr '17 7:07:01 PM nombretomado
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** Probably exactly what you said -- StatusQuoIsGod. Thunderhand definitely hasn't been forgotten, but the most it's gotten are [[ContinuityNod nods]] in the form of special moves in sports games and [[LargeHam "Mr. L:]] [[SuperPaperMario Green Thunder!"]] It's a pity, but, to be fair, it ''would'' just kind of come out of nowhere for anyone who hadn't played Superstar Saga.

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** Probably exactly what you said -- StatusQuoIsGod. Thunderhand definitely hasn't been forgotten, but the most it's gotten are [[ContinuityNod nods]] in the form of special moves in sports games and [[LargeHam "Mr. L:]] [[SuperPaperMario [[VideoGame/SuperPaperMario Green Thunder!"]] It's a pity, but, to be fair, it ''would'' just kind of come out of nowhere for anyone who hadn't played Superstar Saga.
12th Apr '17 2:00:24 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Bowser was GenreSavvy enough to realize that the back door needed more security?
*** Actually, if he was really GenreSavvy, he wouldn't have put in a back door at all.

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** Bowser was GenreSavvy enough to realize realizes that the back door needed more security?
*** Actually, if he was really GenreSavvy, smart, he wouldn't have put in a back door at all.
16th Mar '17 3:29:03 PM Nyperold
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*** And by SMB2, you mean what is often called The Lost Levels, right? I mean, since Bowser isn't in SMB2 / SMBUSA at all; the BigBad there is Wart.


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*** Alternatively, from what I understand, the ''real'' fact is that "Too bad, Waluigi Time!" is from ''Brawl in the Family'', but somebody heard that and got the fact mixed up.


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*** "Boo Diddly" was a localization pun on, yes, Bo Diddley. It's similar to Morton Koopa Jr. being a play on "Morton Downey Jr.". There's no other connection, as far as I know. The Super Mario Wiki has it that Boos are "Teresa" in Japanese, from "tereru", meaning "to be shy".


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** He can use the Pal Pills and Starman in ''Super Paper Mario''.
4th Mar '17 9:28:06 AM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/MarioKart Wii'' introduces us to Baby Daisy for the first time. This is already bizarre, but let's not worry about that now. Instead, consider the statues in Daisy Circuit, one of which depicts Baby Daisy playing with Baby Luigi. So... did they know each other as kids? Is there some backstory that occurred before Mario famously saved her from Tatanga? (Also, is the track design proof that the two ''are'' an official couple?)

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* ''VideoGame/MarioKart Wii'' ''VideoGame/MarioKartWii'' introduces us to Baby Daisy for the first time. This is already bizarre, but let's not worry about that now. Instead, consider the statues in Daisy Circuit, one of which depicts Baby Daisy playing with Baby Luigi. So... did they know each other as kids? Is there some backstory that occurred before Mario famously saved her from Tatanga? (Also, is the track design proof that the two ''are'' an official couple?)



* Why the heck is everyone claiming that Waluigi saying "Waluigi Time" is an AscendedMeme from ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily''? Waluigi said "Waluigi Time" WAAAY before Brawl in the Family was even an idea: Back in [[MarioKart Mario Kart Double Dash]], in 2002/2003. Did nobody even play the game, or what?

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* Why the heck is everyone claiming that Waluigi saying "Waluigi Time" is an AscendedMeme from ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily''? Waluigi said "Waluigi Time" WAAAY before Brawl in the Family was even an idea: Back in [[MarioKart Mario Kart Double Dash]], ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'', in 2002/2003. Did nobody even play the game, or what?
28th Feb '17 7:47:35 PM nombretomado
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*** Well, even with girls... I think of ''LuckyStar''. Kagami relates that although she says that there's practically no difference in their ages, she used to think about it a lot. This likely influenced their personalities as they grew up, anyway. So that, too, may have influenced the Mario brothers.

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*** Well, even with girls... I think of ''LuckyStar''.''Manga/LuckyStar''. Kagami relates that although she says that there's practically no difference in their ages, she used to think about it a lot. This likely influenced their personalities as they grew up, anyway. So that, too, may have influenced the Mario brothers.
24th Feb '17 3:49:27 PM Sammettik
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* Judging from all the PlotInducedStupidity Mario goes through, one can argue that he has SuperGullible as a character flaw..



** Mario can shoot fire underwater by with the same magic he uses to [[SuperNotDrowningSkills breathe underwater]].



** Even stranger, he only has that accent for the intro cutscene.



* Why doesn't Bowser step on his own axe/switch? He's not THAT dumb. Also in NSMB, why doesn't he just keep on walking forward, seeing that he's too large to jump over? Especially the final boss, beucase he hits you back when you bump into him.

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* Why doesn't Bowser step on his own axe/switch? He's not THAT dumb. Also in NSMB, why doesn't he just keep on walking forward, seeing that he's too large to jump over? Especially the final boss, beucase because he hits you back when you bump into him.
24th Feb '17 3:30:11 PM Sammettik
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** Nintendo Power magazine once said Wario is Mario's cousin. But I'd take that with a grain of salt, given how prone they are to CowboyBepopAtHisComputer.
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