History Headscratchers / Suits

14th Oct '15 9:46:54 AM ChronoLegion
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*** Mike later gets the same hacker to add his name to the Bar, although it's pointed out how easy it is to find the truth (e.g. the Harvard ethics professor being surprised at not remembering such a bright student and confirming that Mike is absent from his personal records).
14th Oct '15 9:43:28 AM ChronoLegion
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** There's also the fact that truth always comes out eventually. Had he kept the truth from Rachel, and she found out much later, the consequences would have been much worse than just telling her outright. [[spoiler:This is exactly why Jeff breaks up with Jessica]].
22nd Feb '15 10:48:54 AM ladyeternal
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** Actually, no: any random schmo can't. New York State allows persons who are "reading the law" to take the bar exam. "Reading the law" means that rather than attending law school, the applicant has instead studied under a judge or practicing attorney for an extended period of time. In-universe, Mike's practical experience at Pearson-Hardman would probably qualify him under the "reading the law" exception. However, New York State requires that such persons have completed at least one year of law school study (Rule 520.4 for the Admission of Attorneys). This would disqualify Mike from being allowed to take the bar exam without being able to provide proof of that year of study.
*** Also, passing the bar examination is not the only requirement for acceptance into a state's bar association:
**** With the exceptions of Maryland, Puerto Rico, and Wisconsin, admission to the bar in any state in the U.S. is contingent on the applicant passing the Multistate Professional Responsibility Examination (MPRE), an examination covering the professional responsibility rules governing lawyers. This test is not administered at the same time as any U.S. bar exam. Most candidates usually sit for the MPRE while still in law school, right after studying professional responsibility (a required course in all ABA-accredited law schools), while the material is still fresh in their memory. Mike never got past undergrad.
**** Applicants wishing to be admitted to the bar must also be certified (usually by the state bar association) as having the good moral character and fitness to practice law, and apply to that state's authority responsible for licensing lawyers and pay required fees. Upon approval by that authority, the admittee takes an oath to comply with the rules governing the practice of law in that state, and receives a certificate of admission.
** Based on all of this, it's hard to imagine that Mike has been admitted to the bar and is therefore licensed to practice law in New York State, even with his ability to pass the bar exam itself. The characters would've needed to do a lot more than fake his entry into Harvard's graduate database to get him admitted to the NYS Bar Association, and they've [[ArtisticLicense glossed that over]] [[CriticalResearchFailure pretty thoroughly]].
6th Sep '13 2:07:58 PM PhantomKitty
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** Because he 'was' being loyal, in his eyes. Essentially, he didn't trust Darby's firm because Dana pulled the whole stunt because she's smitten, and Harvey doesn't trust her because she cheated on her fiance with him. So, trust issues, and trying to keep Jessica out of things. Or so goes his explanation.

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** Because he 'was' being loyal, in his eyes. Essentially, he didn't trust Darby's firm because Dana pulled the whole stunt because she's smitten, and Harvey doesn't trust her because she cheated on her fiance with him. So, trust issues, and trying to keep Jessica out of things. Or so goes his explanation.explanation.
** Also it's essentially pointing out one of his character flaws. That he can be so self-absorbed that he waves away or justifies his own indiscretions but as soon as someone else takes a move he doesn't like, he sees it as betrayal.
3rd Aug '13 9:41:51 AM PersonalPOV
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*** In the actual episode it was AllJustADream.
25th Jun '13 9:46:54 AM Sendo
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** one of the ads for the new season shows that she is trying get him fired. So that was probably what Harvey expected to happen.
21st Jun '13 7:58:52 AM wkcias
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** This may [[FridgeBrilliance also be an indication that Jessica is willing to mislead people for her own purposes.]] Engaging in an office affair is not (usually) a sacking offence, and has nothing to do with your work. Most law firms wouldn't consider it a big deal. A law firm ''would'' be interested if Jessica had said Monica had engaged in [[ExactWords ethically dubious behaviour.]] Sure, ethically dubious behaviour- ''but not ethically dubious in the eyes of a law firm.''

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** This may [[FridgeBrilliance also be an early indication that Jessica is willing to mislead people for her own purposes.]] Engaging in an office affair is not (usually) a sacking offence, and has nothing to do with your work. Most law firms wouldn't consider it a big deal. A law firm ''would'' be interested if Jessica had said Monica had engaged in [[ExactWords ethically dubious behaviour.]] Sure, ethically dubious behaviour- ''but not ethically dubious in the eyes of a law firm.'''' Jessican could have blacklisted Monica and there would be very little to even say that Jessica was wrong - but she certainly didn't "do the right thing."
21st Jun '13 7:57:29 AM wkcias
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** This may [[FridgeBrilliance also be an indication that Jessica is willing to mislead people for her own purposes.]] Engaging in an office affair is not (usually) a sacking offence, and has nothing to do with your work. Most law firms wouldn't consider it a big deal. A law firm ''would'' be interested if Jessica had said Monica had engaged in [[ExactWords ethically dubious behaviour.]] Sure, ethically dubious behaviour- ''but not ethically dubious in the eyes of a law firm.''
17th May '13 11:52:49 AM russianspy1234
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** Yes, any random schmo [[http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_take_the_Bar_Exam_without_going_to_Law_School can.]]
26th Apr '13 5:28:34 PM SuitsIsAwesome
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* Where does Harvey get off being pissed at Mike about his (lack of) loyalty in 2x16 when he himself has just proven spectacularly less than loyal to Jessica? He doesn't even have the catch-22 Mike did (which he may or may not know about), just his own ego/ambition.

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* Where does Harvey get off being pissed at Mike about his (lack of) loyalty in 2x16 when he himself has just proven spectacularly less than loyal to Jessica? He doesn't even have the catch-22 Mike did (which he may or may not know about), just his own ego/ambition.ego/ambition.
**Because he 'was' being loyal, in his eyes. Essentially, he didn't trust Darby's firm because Dana pulled the whole stunt because she's smitten, and Harvey doesn't trust her because she cheated on her fiance with him. So, trust issues, and trying to keep Jessica out of things. Or so goes his explanation.
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