History Headscratchers / SuburbanKnights

1st Jun '15 10:40:07 AM TVRulezAgain
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** The "Elseworld" theory has been thoroughly Jossed as of ''ToBoldlyFlee'', which manages to both tie in all the previous plotlines ''and'' explain away the discrepancies.
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** The "Elseworld" theory has been thoroughly Jossed as of ''ToBoldlyFlee'', ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'', which manages to both tie in all the previous plotlines ''and'' explain away the discrepancies.
10th Nov '14 1:30:39 PM daddycool1
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** I believe Elisa on formspring said that despite Ask That Guy killing her later, they're friends.
10th Nov '14 1:22:55 PM STFilmmaker
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* When the Characters asked Ask That Guy, what he was doing in Elisa's house. His response was "I think the question should be 'What is she doing in my house?' " Is it really his house and if so doesn't that make her an intruder?
3rd Jun '14 12:18:49 PM Parallax2814
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* Considering that they'd broken into his house for the Alone in the Dark review, how did Spoony and Linkara not know they were walking into the Nostalgia Critic's house?
14th Feb '14 8:45:49 PM Hyrin
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** Considering how he acted in ''Kickassia'', it's not too surprising that he would be paranoid about enemies.

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** "Wow, they weren't kidding! There ''is'' a lot of porn on the Internet!"

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** Probably in hopes that, by catering to a more secular crowd, the chain might start opening on Sundays so that Joe can't be deprived on the chickeny goodness for 24 hours a week.
20th Nov '13 7:41:19 PM kazokuhouou
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* Out of curiosity, how would Malachite react to {{Magitek}}?
10th Oct '13 8:52:22 PM SplitDemonIdentity
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The complete misspellings of malachite irritated me, as both a geologist and as someone who read the credits.
*** And he could identify Malecite as dressing like a Music/RunDMC member. What the hell?
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*** And he could identify Malecite Malachite as dressing like a Music/RunDMC member. What the hell?

* Malecite tracks the original map correct, not the photocopy. So, if it's a chainletter, shouldn't the Critic's original map have also been a photocopy? ** It was said that Malecite sent the map to the critic and placed a tracking spell on it. It's possible that he places tracking spells on every map he sends out. Team A's map however, was created by the Critic.
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* Malecite Malachite tracks the original map correct, not the photocopy. So, if it's a chainletter, shouldn't the Critic's original map have also been a photocopy? ** It was said that Malecite Malachite sent the map to the critic and placed a tracking spell on it. It's possible that he places tracking spells on every map he sends out. Team A's map however, was created by the Critic.

**** Malecite probably placed it on Team B's map before he gave it back to them, since he seemed surprised to find the copy where he did.
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**** Malecite Malachite probably placed it on Team B's map before he gave it back to them, since he seemed surprised to find the copy where he did.

**** It's also possibly that only BlackMagic drains your lifeforce. Linkara uses the magic gun for (mostly) heroic purposes, whereas Malecite is using magic to ''slaughter'' people. Adding further credence to this, we've seen numerous other characters using magic without the drawback. ** Malecite and others use magic from their life force without use of other tools. Malecite looks for his gauntlet to bypass said limit. Why wouldn't same apply to Linkara's gun? He doesn't use magic without it, so gun just bypasses "CastFromHitPoints" rule, but instead of allowing all magic, it limits to shooting stuff.
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**** It's also possibly that only BlackMagic drains your lifeforce. Linkara uses the magic gun for (mostly) heroic purposes, whereas Malecite Malachite is using magic to ''slaughter'' people. Adding further credence to this, we've seen numerous other characters using magic without the drawback. ** Malecite Malachite and others use magic from their life force without use of other tools. Malecite Malachite looks for his gauntlet to bypass said limit. Why wouldn't same apply to Linkara's gun? He doesn't use magic without it, so gun just bypasses "CastFromHitPoints" rule, but instead of allowing all magic, it limits to shooting stuff.

** When Malecite pulled the elaborate posing with his staff, I was totally expecting a subversion of the WhyDontYaJustShootHim gag from Raiders. Missed Subversion of Awesome? *** Not really, since it would come after Linkara, Jow & Lupa shooting Malecite to no avail. Whilst they could have rearranged the scene so that the Snob shot first, it would make Linkara trying the same thing redundant.
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** When Malecite Malachite pulled the elaborate posing with his staff, I was totally expecting a subversion of the WhyDontYaJustShootHim gag from Raiders. Missed Subversion of Awesome? *** Not really, since it would come after Linkara, Jow & Lupa shooting Malecite Malachite to no avail. Whilst they could have rearranged the scene so that the Snob shot first, it would make Linkara trying the same thing redundant.

** Spoony really isn't interested in becoming Insano again, and putting such a man of SCIENCE! in front of Malecite would be suicidal. As for Beary, he didn't show up because Krom was busy.
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** Spoony really isn't interested in becoming Insano again, and putting such a man of SCIENCE! in front of Malecite Malachite would be suicidal. As for Beary, he didn't show up because Krom was busy.

* Malecite's iPhone. He's supposed to hate all tech, but he carries one of those. Yeah, the team calls him out on it, but that doesn't seem enough to cover that OutOfCharacterMoment. Did he think Apple makes little black devices with magic, or is technology really that addictive? ** Well, think about this. The only way that Malecite knows about Nostalgia Critic is that if he's been on the Internet and figured out Nostalgia Critic could find the gauntlet. In other words, he's been on the Internet and used technology.
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* Malecite's Malachite's iPhone. He's supposed to hate all tech, but he carries one of those. Yeah, the team calls him out on it, but that doesn't seem enough to cover that OutOfCharacterMoment. Did he think Apple makes little black devices with magic, or is technology really that addictive? ** Well, think about this. The only way that Malecite Malachite knows about Nostalgia Critic is that if he's been on the Internet and figured out Nostalgia Critic could find the gauntlet. In other words, he's been on the Internet and used technology.

** The whole "hypocrite" thing threw the Malecite character off. You're telling me someone that [[spoiler: blows people up for cell phones and kills people for GPS]] can overlook something on it's own? No. That goes from excellent villain to too unbelievable to comprehend.
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** The whole "hypocrite" thing threw the Malecite Malachite character off. You're telling me someone that [[spoiler: blows people up for cell phones and kills people for GPS]] can overlook something on it's own? No. That goes from excellent villain to too unbelievable to comprehend.

** Every time Malecite uses magic, it drains his life energy. He probably started using modern tech because it was less dangerous than using his natural scrying abilities, and rationalized it by saying that he had to stay alive for long enough to find the gem. The final confrontation is probably the first time he realizes that he's become as dependent on it as the people he despises.
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** Every time Malecite Malachite uses magic, it drains his life energy. He probably started using modern tech because it was less dangerous than using his natural scrying abilities, and rationalized it by saying that he had to stay alive for long enough to find the gem. The final confrontation is probably the first time he realizes that he's become as dependent on it as the people he despises.

* In the final battle, why didn't Malecite just kill all the good guys with that badass lightning attack he used to kill the witch and Cat in one shot? He even had his gauntlet, so there was no downside to using magic anymore. ** Now that Malecite has the gauntlet, nothing can stop him (or so he thinks), so he decides to toy with them a little before he kills them so they know just how screwed they are. ** Malecite could have killed the Guardians since he knew that they pose the greatest threat to him. He may also have been so egotistical that he wanted witnesses to him destroying the World of Technology.
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* In the final battle, why didn't Malecite Malachite just kill all the good guys with that badass lightning attack he used to kill the witch and Cat in one shot? He even had his gauntlet, so there was no downside to using magic anymore. ** Now that Malecite Malachite has the gauntlet, nothing can stop him (or so he thinks), so he decides to toy with them a little before he kills them so they know just how screwed they are. ** Malecite Malachite could have killed the Guardians since he knew that they pose the greatest threat to him. He may also have been so egotistical that he wanted witnesses to him destroying the World of Technology.

* When Ma-Ti first lands a successful blow on Malecite, how did Critic remember the conversion with the Voice of the Ancient World, when that was Group 2 that did that, and not his group? ** Part 5 ends with Suede beginning to explain Malecite to Group 1. They likely both heard the same story. Could've been addressed, though... *** I had a similar question to ask that ends with a similar theory. Basically, why did Critic make a proud speech about defending technology? He had no idea that Malecite was going around murdering random people. The whole magic vs. science backstory speech was heard by Spoony's group. Not even Jaffers mentioned the whole anti-tech thing, as far as I recall; he spent more time discussing Malecite's connection to real magic. If the answer to this question is also Suede, it's worrisome that none of the other obstacles brought it up at any point, because I doubt he had more knowledge than the rest of them.
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* When Ma-Ti first lands a successful blow on Malecite, Malachite, how did Critic remember the conversion with the Voice of the Ancient World, when that was Group 2 that did that, and not his group? ** Part 5 ends with Suede beginning to explain Malecite Malachite to Group 1. They likely both heard the same story. Could've been addressed, though... *** I had a similar question to ask that ends with a similar theory. Basically, why did Critic make a proud speech about defending technology? He had no idea that Malecite Malachite was going around murdering random people. The whole magic vs. science backstory speech was heard by Spoony's group. Not even Jaffers mentioned the whole anti-tech thing, as far as I recall; he spent more time discussing Malecite's Malachite's connection to real magic. If the answer to this question is also Suede, it's worrisome that none of the other obstacles brought it up at any point, because I doubt he had more knowledge than the rest of them.

* Did the Voice of the Ancient World provide visuals to Spoony's group? They didn't learn from Jaffers that the "Run DMC" guy was Malecite, and as ominous as he seemed, their only interaction with him beforehand was when he returned the map to Jew Wario and disappeared on them. Hardly the kind of thing to warrant their "oh crap" reaction at the end of part 6, unless they learned that he was Malecite... which wasn't explicitly made clear by the Voice unless they actually saw the same drawn artwork we did and noticed a resemblance. (Also, I conclude that Spoony didn't really deserve to be smacked by Critic, since he never heard anything about the tracking spells. But that's in-character for Critic.)
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* Did the Voice of the Ancient World provide visuals to Spoony's group? They didn't learn from Jaffers that the "Run DMC" guy was Malecite, Malachite, and as ominous as he seemed, their only interaction with him beforehand was when he returned the map to Jew Wario and disappeared on them. Hardly the kind of thing to warrant their "oh crap" reaction at the end of part 6, unless they learned that he was Malecite...Malachite... which wasn't explicitly made clear by the Voice unless they actually saw the same drawn artwork we did and noticed a resemblance. (Also, I conclude that Spoony didn't really deserve to be smacked by Critic, since he never heard anything about the tracking spells. But that's in-character for Critic.)

* Tell me I'm not crazy here but... one of the drawings of Malecite from the backstory was actually just a traced and recolored version of the Sorcerer picture from the Dungeons and Dragons 3.0 Edition Player's Handbook, isn't it?
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* Tell me I'm not crazy here but... one of the drawings of Malecite Malachite from the backstory was actually just a traced and recolored version of the Sorcerer picture from the Dungeons and Dragons 3.0 Edition Player's Handbook, isn't it?

* When Ma-Ti showed up and yelled Heart the first time [[spoiler: before confronting Malecite, why didn't his ring shoot a beam of energy. It was his second time that it happened, neither time did he expect something to happen, so shouldn't it have worked sooner?]] ** Most of his introduction scenes have him holding his ring in the air. [[spoiler: Perhaps it only fires when it's aimed at Malecite?]]
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* When Ma-Ti showed up and yelled Heart the first time [[spoiler: before confronting Malecite, Malachite, why didn't his ring shoot a beam of energy. It was his second time that it happened, neither time did he expect something to happen, so shouldn't it have worked sooner?]] ** Most of his introduction scenes have him holding his ring in the air. [[spoiler: Perhaps it only fires when it's aimed at Malecite?]]Malachite?]]

* How exactly was Malecite ever confused by the riddles? From what little we hear they sound fairly straightforward[[note]]Yes, in real life it's probably because they didn't have much time to spend on riddles[[/note]]. For that matter, why did Jaffers see any need to leave clues behind? ** Maybe Malecite was just lazy and didn't want to do the actual work? Or maybe the map wasn't obviously in the Chicago area to anyone not antiquated with it, so he needed to find someone who knew where all those roads were? ** Once Jaffers hid the gauntlet and was banished into the book, the only people who knew where it was hidden were the obstacles. Since they weren't likely to tell Malecite where it was hidden and Malecite wasn't [[ArcWords pure of heart]] enough to be able to translate the riddles, he had to wait for someone to come along who could find it for him. *** Or, alternatively, we get a shot of Malecite staring at the field early in the movie. Perhaps he knew where it was hidden, but Jaffers had put a spell on the Stormdrain of Secrets that prevented Malecite from withdrawing the gauntlet, leading him to search for a catspaw.
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* How exactly was Malecite Malachite ever confused by the riddles? From what little we hear they sound fairly straightforward[[note]]Yes, in real life it's probably because they didn't have much time to spend on riddles[[/note]]. For that matter, why did Jaffers see any need to leave clues behind? ** Maybe Malecite Malachite was just lazy and didn't want to do the actual work? Or maybe the map wasn't obviously in the Chicago area to anyone not antiquated with it, so he needed to find someone who knew where all those roads were? ** Once Jaffers hid the gauntlet and was banished into the book, the only people who knew where it was hidden were the obstacles. Since they weren't likely to tell Malecite Malachite where it was hidden and Malecite Malachite wasn't [[ArcWords pure of heart]] enough to be able to translate the riddles, he had to wait for someone to come along who could find it for him. *** Or, alternatively, we get a shot of Malecite Malachite staring at the field early in the movie. Perhaps he knew where it was hidden, but Jaffers had put a spell on the Stormdrain of Secrets that prevented Malecite Malachite from withdrawing the gauntlet, leading him to search for a catspaw.
28th Aug '13 8:08:31 PM Willbyr
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* How exactly was Malecite ever confused by the riddles? From what little we hear they sound fairly straightforward[[hottip:*: Yes, in real life it's probably because they didn't have much time to spend on riddles]]. For that matter, why did Jaffers see any need to leave clues behind?
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* How exactly was Malecite ever confused by the riddles? From what little we hear they sound fairly straightforward[[hottip:*: Yes, straightforward[[note]]Yes, in real life it's probably because they didn't have much time to spend on riddles]].riddles[[/note]]. For that matter, why did Jaffers see any need to leave clues behind?
28th Aug '13 8:07:39 PM Willbyr
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Hottip cleanup; see thread for details.
* Why in the commentary does Bennett refer to the events of ''Kickassia'' as taking place "Elseworld"? There have been more than enough references in Linkara and Critic's videos[[hottip:*: (not to mention the possible call backs of Film Brain's asskissing behavior and Joe's BigNo reaction to seeing his fellow reviewers gathered)]] to establish that ''Kickassia'' takes place in "our" reality.
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* Why in the commentary does Bennett refer to the events of ''Kickassia'' as taking place "Elseworld"? There have been more than enough references in Linkara and Critic's videos[[hottip:*: (not videos[[note]]not to mention the possible call backs of Film Brain's asskissing behavior and Joe's BigNo reaction to seeing his fellow reviewers gathered)]] gathered[[/note]] to establish that ''Kickassia'' takes place in "our" reality.
4th Mar '13 10:50:01 PM Antwan
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*** I just assumed that after he was stopped from taking the whip onto the airplane, he just stopped taking it incase he got dragged into something like this or {{Kickassia}}, and needed to fly somewhere quickly. The reviewers are generally depicted as being fairly GenreSavvy when it comes things like that.
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*** I just assumed that after he was stopped from taking the whip onto the airplane, he just stopped taking it incase he got dragged into something like this or {{Kickassia}}, WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, and needed to fly somewhere quickly. The reviewers are generally depicted as being fairly GenreSavvy when it comes things like that.

*** And he could identify Malecite as dressing like a RunDMC member. What the hell?
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*** And he could identify Malecite as dressing like a RunDMC Music/RunDMC member. What the hell?

** It's possible he simply doesn't have a gun - He used a pea-shooter in {{Kickassia}}, remember.
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** It's possible he simply doesn't have a gun - He used a pea-shooter in {{Kickassia}}, WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, remember.
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