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10th Sep '17 9:51:49 AM AlexDKZ
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*** I am no history buff but I am well aware that early in the 19th century the Napoleonic Wars were going on, so I certainly would avoid sending a french speaking time traveller to certain nations where he would be in trouble. Certainly, I would expect the Enterprise crew to have at least the same level of awareness of major historical conflicts.
10th Jun '17 2:58:07 PM nombretomado
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** Given the lack of knowledge that many have concerning large-scale conflicts such as WorldWarI, which was less than 100 years ago, it's not entirely unbelievable that a conflict that produced very few comparative casualties would be overlooked in the history books, especially since it was more of a political pissing contest than a real war.

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** Given the lack of knowledge that many have concerning large-scale conflicts such as WorldWarI, UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, which was less than 100 years ago, it's not entirely unbelievable that a conflict that produced very few comparative casualties would be overlooked in the history books, especially since it was more of a political pissing contest than a real war.
6th Mar '17 9:54:51 AM Bense
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** Maybe they know that he's the hero, so there's no way Kirk is going to drown. He even took his red shirt off before he dived in. The whales, on the other hand, are the movie's McGuffin.
28th Feb '17 12:24:16 PM Bense
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28th Feb '17 9:02:05 AM Bense
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*** That Klingon Bird of Prey was commandeered by Kirk and company, who subsequently went into exile. So did they send the footage, even though it would incriminate them against the Klingons or did the Federation take the footage without taking the people wanted for crimes to stand trial? On a similar note, whatever happened to the Klingon, Maltz, that they took captive?

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*** That Klingon Bird of Prey was commandeered by Kirk and company, who subsequently went into exile. So did they send the footage, even though it would incriminate them against the Klingons or did the Federation take the footage without taking the people wanted for crimes to stand trial? On a similar note, whatever happened to the Klingon, Maltz, that they took captive?



*** As for what happened to Maltz, the ''Klingon Dictionary'' credits him as being instrumental in creating the book and assisting the Federation in translation work. Alternately, the novelization of ''Star Trek III'' says he committed suicide. He also apparently appears in the ''Genesis Wave'' book series in the ''Next Generation'' time frame, where he regains his honor with a HeroicSacrifice.
*** Concerning Maltz showing up later, how did he leave? If someone from the Federation picked him up to return him to the Klingons as a peace offering, shouldn't they also have escorted Kirk and co. to face trial.


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* On a similar note, whatever happened to the Klingon, Maltz, that they took captive?
** As for what happened to Maltz, the ''Klingon Dictionary'' credits him as being instrumental in creating the book and assisting the Federation in translation work. Alternately, the novelization of ''Star Trek III'' says he committed suicide. He also apparently appears in the ''Genesis Wave'' book series in the ''Next Generation'' time frame, where he regains his honor with a HeroicSacrifice.
** Concerning Maltz showing up later, how did he leave? If someone from the Federation picked him up to return him to the Klingons as a peace offering, shouldn't they also have escorted Kirk and co. to face trial.
** The Klingon ambassador doesn't say "give us back our officer!" during his rant against Kirk, so presumably Maltz's fate (whatever it was) had already been resolved before the beginning of the movie. If you buy the ''Klingon Dictionary'' explanation, then he asked for asylum and didn't leave Vulcan, at least for a while.
14th Feb '17 9:13:45 AM cdrood
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** It's arguable at best. Probably the worst thing would be messing with it an accidently vaporizing it. From a technology standpoint there are actually probably too many steps in between to have a frame of reference. It's why the communicator issue in "A Piece of the Action" probably wouldn't have been an issue. Note how they said in that episode that the Iotians were at the beginning of industrialization when the Horizon left the book a century before and were at 1920's level when the Enterprise arrived. That actually roughly fits with Earth with Iotia only being maybe a decade or two ahead.
14th Feb '17 9:04:13 AM cdrood
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** Another simple explanation is that it had been renamed in the 300 year interval.
14th Feb '17 8:56:58 AM cdrood
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** Obviously several episodes of the original series made references to money. Harry Mudd and Cyrano Jones are just two examples. Add in that the main characters have traveled to a multitude of worlds at various stages of socio-economic development, including several near duplicates of Earth.
9th Jan '17 9:49:26 PM NotBambi
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*** Memory Alpha obtained those dates based on Gillian's line about 300 years of catching up. It is clarified in the background info section that this is an approximation, and the date could be anywhere in the mid-to-late 2280s.

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*** Memory Alpha obtained those dates based on Gillian's line about 300 years of catching up. up, and this is also the basis that semi-official sources like the Star Trek Encyclopedia and StarTrek.com use. It is clarified in the background info section on MA that this is an approximation, and the date could be anywhere in the mid-to-late 2280s.
9th Jan '17 9:46:31 PM NotBambi
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*** Memory Alpha obtained those dates based on Gillian's line about 300 years of catching up. It is clarified in the background info section that this is an approximation, and the date could be anywhere in the mid-to-late 2280s.
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