History Headscratchers / StarControl

9th Aug '16 1:27:38 AM DarkHunter
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** The Ur-Quan may be aggressive and territorial, but such instincts would only trigger in person. The Ur-Quan show no signs of unusual agitation or aggressiveness when speaking to you through a computer screen. The impression one gets is that the Ur-Quan intentionally distanced themselves to avoid hurting anyone else, only communicating from a distance. So long as that happened, they could be allies with other species and cooperate with them. They could even hold pleasant conversations. All indications in fact are that the Ur-Quan were pretty nice guys in the Milieu days... unless one got up close to them. The Taalo are an exception since they could be physically close to the Ur-Quan yet not trigger the instincts, making them the first and only beings the Ur-Quan could fully relax around and share companionship.

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** The Ur-Quan may be aggressive and territorial, but such those instincts would only seem to trigger in person. The Ur-Quan show no signs of unusual agitation or aggressiveness when speaking to you through a computer screen. The impression one gets is that the Ur-Quan intentionally distanced themselves to avoid hurting anyone else, only communicating from a distance. So long as that happened, they could be allies with other species and cooperate with them. They could even hold pleasant conversations. All indications in fact are that the Ur-Quan were pretty nice guys in the Milieu days... unless one got up close to them. The Taalo are an exception since they could be physically close to the Ur-Quan yet not trigger the instincts, making them the first and only beings the Ur-Quan could fully relax around and share companionship.
9th Aug '16 1:27:09 AM DarkHunter
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** Likely, the Slylandro are alien enough to the Ur-Quan, plus the whole being unable to leave their home thing, that they don't perceive them as a threat, and treated them like the Taalo.

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** Likely, the Slylandro are alien enough to the Ur-Quan, plus the whole being unable to leave their home thing, that they don't perceive them as a threat, and treated them like the Taalo.Taalo.
** The Ur-Quan may be aggressive and territorial, but such instincts would only trigger in person. The Ur-Quan show no signs of unusual agitation or aggressiveness when speaking to you through a computer screen. The impression one gets is that the Ur-Quan intentionally distanced themselves to avoid hurting anyone else, only communicating from a distance. So long as that happened, they could be allies with other species and cooperate with them. They could even hold pleasant conversations. All indications in fact are that the Ur-Quan were pretty nice guys in the Milieu days... unless one got up close to them. The Taalo are an exception since they could be physically close to the Ur-Quan yet not trigger the instincts, making them the first and only beings the Ur-Quan could fully relax around and share companionship.
17th May '16 11:37:37 PM Teakay
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* Why didn't the Chmmr break the slave shield on Vega and use the factory there to produce unlimited copies of the player's ship? That seems like it would have been a much more reliable response to the Sa-Matra than just one bomb.

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* Why didn't the Chmmr break the slave shield on Vega Vela and use the factory there to produce unlimited copies of the player's ship? That seems like it would have been a much more reliable response to the Sa-Matra than just one bomb.
16th Jan '16 8:19:24 PM Johnthedragon
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* What were the Ur-Quan like before the Dnyarri enslaved them? We're given several accounts, but they're contradictory - The Slylandro say they were "really nice" and always pleasant to them, while the Ur-Quan themselves say that they were aggressive, territorial beings who only really got along with the Taalo.

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* What were the Ur-Quan like before the Dnyarri enslaved them? We're given several accounts, but they're contradictory - The Slylandro say they were "really nice" and always pleasant to them, while the Ur-Quan themselves say that they were aggressive, territorial beings who only really got along with the Taalo.
** Likely, the Slylandro are alien enough to the Ur-Quan, plus the whole being unable to leave their home thing, that they don't perceive them as a threat, and treated them like the
Taalo.
25th Dec '15 8:27:14 PM NineTailedCat
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*** Given that the Syreen are able to reproduce with humans, that is unlikely. The more likely explanation is that it hasn't actually been all that much time since the destruction of Syra by the Mycon: it happened some 75 years before the first Alliance-Hierarchy War, so basically one human lifetime, more or less. Furthermore, it is likely that the Syreen fertility rate was pretty low for most of that time, since, until the Ur-Quan resettled the Syreen on Betelgeuse I, the Syreen were all living aboard spaceships, without room for large families. Finally, it is likely that the sex-balance has recovered over the 95 years between the destruction of Syra and the start of ''Star Control 2'', but it is still the case that the overwhelming majority of the Syreen Space Patrol are female, for the same reason that the Space Patrol was majority female in the first place: it's a reflection of deep-seated cultural values.

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*** Given that the Syreen are able to reproduce with humans, that is unlikely. The more likely explanation is that it hasn't actually been all that much time since the destruction of Syra by the Mycon: it happened some 75 years before the first Alliance-Hierarchy War, so basically one human lifetime, more or less. Furthermore, it is likely that the Syreen fertility rate was pretty low for most of that time, since, until the Ur-Quan resettled the Syreen on Betelgeuse I, the Syreen were all living aboard spaceships, without room for large families. Finally, it is likely that the sex-balance has recovered over the 95 years between the destruction of Syra and the start of ''Star Control 2'', but it is still the case that the overwhelming majority of the Syreen Space Patrol are female, for the same reason that the Space Patrol was majority female in the first place: it's a reflection of deep-seated cultural values.values.
* What were the Ur-Quan like before the Dnyarri enslaved them? We're given several accounts, but they're contradictory - The Slylandro say they were "really nice" and always pleasant to them, while the Ur-Quan themselves say that they were aggressive, territorial beings who only really got along with the Taalo.
30th Sep '15 2:12:58 AM Sabrewing
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** It's unstated exactly what materials those mines were yielding. If the Alliance somehow came upon three [[{{Unobtainium}} Tzo Crystal]] veins within a single star cluster, you can bet your bottom dollar that those would be supremely lucrative.
30th Aug '15 12:54:07 PM Oddstar6
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** One possibility is that, since Syreens are an alien race, they reproduce totally-differently, with females being able to produce more females on their own, and males being able to produce more males. Though this would raise the question of why they have genders at all...

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** One possibility is that, since Syreens are an alien race, they reproduce totally-differently, with females being able to produce more females on their own, and males being able to produce more males. Though this would raise the question of why they have genders at all...all...
*** Given that the Syreen are able to reproduce with humans, that is unlikely. The more likely explanation is that it hasn't actually been all that much time since the destruction of Syra by the Mycon: it happened some 75 years before the first Alliance-Hierarchy War, so basically one human lifetime, more or less. Furthermore, it is likely that the Syreen fertility rate was pretty low for most of that time, since, until the Ur-Quan resettled the Syreen on Betelgeuse I, the Syreen were all living aboard spaceships, without room for large families. Finally, it is likely that the sex-balance has recovered over the 95 years between the destruction of Syra and the start of ''Star Control 2'', but it is still the case that the overwhelming majority of the Syreen Space Patrol are female, for the same reason that the Space Patrol was majority female in the first place: it's a reflection of deep-seated cultural values.
30th Aug '15 4:55:47 AM Aquillion
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** Presumably the Ur-Quan have ways of keeping their battle thralls on a tight leash, otherwise the system wouldn't work at all. That would logically preclude developing any technology that the Ur-Quan would view as a threat -- I mean, "pretend to become battle thralls and build our forces so we can strike back" would be the very first thing most races would think of. (In the actual game, the Ur-Quan get distracted by the Kohr-Ah, so their thralls have a bit more freedom than usual, but the Chenjesu and Mmrnmhrm had no way of knowing that would happen.)
30th Aug '15 4:51:57 AM Aquillion
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** The Pkunk are a race of pacifists. While they fight when they have to, it's not unreasonable that they just don't produce as good pilots as the Ilwrath. Additionally, the Ilwrath sphere of influence is much bigger; it's possible the Ilwrath have a larger population and better industrial production, especially when it comes to military matters. (Which, again, makes sense, since the Ilwrath have been Hierarchy slaves for a while now and are presumably on permanent war footing, whereas the pacifistic Pkunk probably devoted their resources to cultural / artistic endeavors until they were attacked. And possibly they didn't shift to a war footing even then, because they don't actually seem very concerned... which might be justified because they consider themselves to have reincarnative immortality.
30th Aug '15 4:40:27 AM Aquillion
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** Another possible answer: As mentioned below, the Syreen were the last race in the Alliance to fall, while the humans were the first. When the humans were beaten, the Ur-Quan had reasons to worry that another race might free them and continue the fight, so they had more reasons to be thorough in crushing human military capacity. By the time the Syreen were beaten, that wasn't as much of a concern, so they could afford to save some Syreen ships in case the technology was useful in the future.
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