History Headscratchers / SplinterCell

28th Apr '16 9:33:20 AM ZShogan
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** The USS ''Walsh'' just got taken out by the same type of missile that got past its defenses. There was no way to tell if the ''Reagan'' or her escorts was going to get hit with an information warfare attack, so the safest course of action would be to have Sam take it out. He's right in the battery, why not put him to good use.

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** The USS ''Walsh'' just got taken out by the same type of missile that got past its defenses. There was no way to tell if the ''Reagan'' or her escorts was going to get hit with an information warfare attack, so the safest course of action would be to have Sam take it out. He's right in the battery, why not put him to good use.use.
*** Given that the Reagan was laid down in 1998, and that the CIWS and ECM systems it employs predate the internet by decades, it seems highly unlikely that they could be remotely disabled, especially given that Grímsdóttir says "Even if it gets past the Reagan's Phalanx..." after Sam aborts the missile.
18th Apr '16 4:41:19 AM TinMan
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* Was aborting the launched missile in the Chaos Theory level Battery really necessary? Surely one anti-ship missile couldn't hope to make it past the combined CIWS fire of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan and its escorts (and that's if none of the Reagan's aircraft shot it down).

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* Was aborting the launched missile in the Chaos Theory level Battery really necessary? Surely one anti-ship missile couldn't hope to make it past the combined CIWS fire of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan and its escorts (and that's if none of the Reagan's aircraft shot it down).down).
** The USS ''Walsh'' just got taken out by the same type of missile that got past its defenses. There was no way to tell if the ''Reagan'' or her escorts was going to get hit with an information warfare attack, so the safest course of action would be to have Sam take it out. He's right in the battery, why not put him to good use.
23rd Feb '16 2:40:29 AM ZShogan
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* Was aborting the launched missile in the Chaos Theory level Battery really necessary? Surely one anti-ship missile couldn't hope to make it past the combined CIWS fire of the Reagan and its escorts.

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* Was aborting the launched missile in the Chaos Theory level Battery really necessary? Surely one anti-ship missile couldn't hope to make it past the combined CIWS fire of the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan and its escorts.escorts (and that's if none of the Reagan's aircraft shot it down).
23rd Feb '16 2:32:25 AM ZShogan
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** Well, the people running Fourth Echelon are the ones who directly saved her from Third Echelon, including a disavowed operative and a double agent. It may also be that there are no plans to expand 4E beyond its current resources, keeping it from ever mounting an operation on the same scale as Reed's takeover.

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** Well, the people running Fourth Echelon are the ones who directly saved her from Third Echelon, including a disavowed operative and a double agent. It may also be that there are no plans to expand 4E beyond its current resources, keeping it from ever mounting an operation on the same scale as Reed's takeover.takeover.
* How could Grímsdóttir, who was born in 1974, and therefore 7 to 15 during the Reagan administration, not know the phrase "win one for the Gipper"?
* Was aborting the launched missile in the Chaos Theory level Battery really necessary? Surely one anti-ship missile couldn't hope to make it past the combined CIWS fire of the Reagan and its escorts.
18th Oct '15 7:36:23 PM damnedifiaint
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** It seems likely she has a "Fight Fire With Fire" attitude regarding things. Given how she nearly was taken down by Megiddo and Third Echelon, she may think having such an agency directly loyal to her may be the only way to protect herself.

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** It seems likely she has a "Fight Fire With Fire" attitude regarding things. Given how she nearly was taken down by Megiddo and Third Echelon, she may think having such an agency directly loyal to her may be the only way to protect herself.herself.
** Well, the people running Fourth Echelon are the ones who directly saved her from Third Echelon, including a disavowed operative and a double agent. It may also be that there are no plans to expand 4E beyond its current resources, keeping it from ever mounting an operation on the same scale as Reed's takeover.
11th Sep '15 6:18:54 PM CharlesPhipps
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* Anyone think President Caldwell suffers from massive AesopAmnesia? She was nearly killed in an attempted coup perpetrated by a covert U.S. intelligence agency that had grown so out of control that it had virtually no government oversight. Then, bam! Terrorist attack and her response is to...create a covert U.S. intelligence agency with virtually no oversight that nearly causes a war with Iran. Sure the people in Fourth Echelon are good people but didn't 3E start out that way? What's to prevent another Tom Reed, especially if Megiddo is still out there?

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* Anyone think President Caldwell suffers from massive AesopAmnesia? She was nearly killed in an attempted coup perpetrated by a covert U.S. intelligence agency that had grown so out of control that it had virtually no government oversight. Then, bam! Terrorist attack and her response is to...create a covert U.S. intelligence agency with virtually no oversight that nearly causes a war with Iran. Sure the people in Fourth Echelon are good people but didn't 3E start out that way? What's to prevent another Tom Reed, especially if Megiddo is still out there?there?
** It seems likely she has a "Fight Fire With Fire" attitude regarding things. Given how she nearly was taken down by Megiddo and Third Echelon, she may think having such an agency directly loyal to her may be the only way to protect herself.
10th Sep '15 12:09:16 PM CharlesPhipps
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** Two possibilities: One, Sadiq is just speaking hyperbole. Given he's already a colossal failure with his terrorist plans, it's very likely his backers will disavow all knowledge of his activities. Two, the various nations are informed of his imprisonment even as the general public is left to consider him dead.
5th Aug '15 3:44:14 PM TinMan
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** It has nothing to do with trains and everything to do with the setting: The attack takes place in ''Philadelphia'' - a city symbolic of American liberty and law.

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** It has nothing to do with trains and everything to do with the setting: The attack takes place in ''Philadelphia'' - a city symbolic of American liberty and law.law.
* So the ending of ''Blacklist'' doesn't make much sense to me. Sadiq claims that if he's killed the twelve nations supporting him will launch open war against the United States so Fisher opts to instead secretly imprison him. But President Caldwell announced on national television that U.S. intelligence killed him...so aren't these twelve backer nations gonna 'rise up'?
* Anyone think President Caldwell suffers from massive AesopAmnesia? She was nearly killed in an attempted coup perpetrated by a covert U.S. intelligence agency that had grown so out of control that it had virtually no government oversight. Then, bam! Terrorist attack and her response is to...create a covert U.S. intelligence agency with virtually no oversight that nearly causes a war with Iran. Sure the people in Fourth Echelon are good people but didn't 3E start out that way? What's to prevent another Tom Reed, especially if Megiddo is still out there?
7th Jul '14 11:07:44 PM SandyGunfox
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** Freedom of travel and gathering maybe ?? Those are kinda cornerstones of American society and social model of life.

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** Freedom of travel and gathering maybe ?? Those are kinda cornerstones of American society and social model of life.life.
** It has nothing to do with trains and everything to do with the setting: The attack takes place in ''Philadelphia'' - a city symbolic of American liberty and law.
9th Jun '14 3:33:19 PM Turtler
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**** It's also very possible some TranslationConvention is going on, where Sam uses some of the native language where necessary.
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