History Headscratchers / Sinfest

25th Jan '16 12:50:39 AM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
**** Oppressed enough that ''asking to be treated equally is not effective''. Listen to yourself, your argument is that someone who openly resists oppression and gains any concessions by doing so, is not oppressed at all! By your logic, since women got the right to vote in 1920, that means that they were retroactively never really denied the right to vote; since segregation is illegal today, that means black people were retroactively never forced to ride in the back of the bus. And by extension, that means the unfairness that oppressed groups experience ''today'' doesn't count as oppression because they ''technically'' have the option to resist.
to:
**** Oppressed enough that ''asking to be treated equally is not effective''. Listen to yourself, your argument is that someone who openly resists oppression and gains any concessions by doing so, is not oppressed at all! By your logic, since women got the right to vote in 1920, that means that they were retroactively never really denied the right to vote; since segregation is illegal today, that means black people were retroactively never forced to ride in the back of the bus. And by extension, that means the unfairness that oppressed groups experience ''today'' doesn't count as oppression because they ''technically'' have the option to resist.resist, even if openly resisting means being "too angry" or "too hostile" and serves as an excuse to continue dismissing them ''while also denying that the oppression exists because it doesn't cater enough to the comfort of the oppressor''.
25th Jan '16 12:45:54 AM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
**** Oppressed enough that ''asking to be treated equally is not effective''. Listen to yourself, your argument is that someone who openly resists oppression and gains any concessions by doing so, is not oppressed at all! By your logic, since women got the right to vote in 1920, that means that they were retroactively never really denied the right to vote; since segregation is illegal today, that means black people were retroactively never forced to ride in the back of the bus. And by extension, that means the unfairness that oppressed groups experience ''today'' doesn't count as oppression because they ''technically'' have the option to resist.
25th Jan '16 12:01:12 AM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
**** How is that relevant to Monique's performance? It's performance art, she was expressing her own feelings in her own space. To borrow a quote, "If you ask someone nicely to stop hurting you, they'll say you don't sound hurt; demand that they stop hurting you, and they'll shut your mouth."
24th Jan '16 11:51:21 PM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
**** "Side effects" isn't the right word, but it ''is'' the effect of institutionalized misogyny that negatively impacts men. When anything feminine is considered inferior to males and masculinity, the only way for men to establish that they are indeed male and thus superior, is to reject femininity as much as possible. When abuse against men is dismissed or erased, it's because the experience of being victimized is seen as feminine (ie, weak, helpless, powerless, fragile) and diminishes his worth as a man. The perception of male = strong literally depends on the perception of female = weak, it's only logical that the line of thinking that says women are inferior refuses to entertain the notion that a woman, a creature inherently helpless and weak, could possibly harm a "real" man. Men can be victims of sexism and misandry, but it's rarely active denigration of maleness at the core of the issue; more often, it's that manhood itself is seen as being corroded by a man's feminine qualities, and when we characterize victimization as feminine, the only conclusion to draw is that if a man is a victim, he's not "really" a man. It's a complicated issue.
24th Jan '16 9:48:09 PM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
----
to:
----* Where does the impression that Monique has anything to regret about losing her relationship with Slick come from, other than the fact that the relationship existed? As far as she knows, he never liked her for anything but her looks, and I can't recall him ever openly admitting he cared about her for anything else. When Slick basically drops a [[http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tone_argument logical fallacy]] on her to side with her critics, he was laying out that he was part of the problem that she was trying to fight. She was literally, physically oppressed by a bunch of men for expressing displeasure that she felt oppressed by men, and then one of her oldest friends, a guy, tells her that it's her own fault because she didn't diminish her anger for the comfort of the men who were oppressing her. That is an awful thing to say to someone that you're supposed to actually care about. Slick isn't a bad person, but he's a crappy friend to Monique. ---
20th Jan '16 1:49:15 AM PurpleAlert
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
*** She doesn't "go to them". She's a celebrity who regularly performs at that club. She goes there because ''it's where she works''. That's really what the issue is: the audience knows damn well what material she does and they know they won't like it, but instead of just not attending her performances, they continue to go there specifically ''because'' they want to punish her for taking her act in a direction they don't like.
9th Jan '16 6:38:30 AM Phys101
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
** Jesus un-Bomfs a character in the short [[http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2007-05-27 Makeover]] set. And several other strips, such as [[http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2011-04-03 this]] suggest that holy water cures Bomfing.

Added DiffLines:
*** Alternate possibility for Tangerine is that she's not evil, and doesn't care to be unBomfed. But this is probably right about Slick.

Added DiffLines:
*** The devil guy was originally the human owner of one of the runaway Fembots. There was no indication when he was Bomfed (or otherwise turned into a devil). He was actually unBomfed before awakening at the Lethe and being tricked into turning himself into a frog and leaping into the Lethe.
5th Jan '16 6:03:49 PM Phys101
Is there an issue? Send a Message
** He only controls certain aspects of the world, namely the corporate sector. The things he doesn't control are pretty open with their hatred for demons. Remember that during that time, Fuschia was in the middle of her character development, trying to change her ways. At that point, IIRC, she was in the AntiVillain / PunchClockVillain stage of her change. Those who are familiar with redemption tropes know that things like that can be very discouraging to those seeking it.
to:
** He only controls certain aspects of the world, namely the corporate sector. The things he doesn't control are pretty open with their hatred for demons. Remember that during that time, Fuschia Fuchsia was in the middle of her character development, trying to change her ways. At that point, IIRC, she was in the AntiVillain / PunchClockVillain stage of her change. Those who are familiar with redemption tropes know that things like that can be very discouraging to those seeking it.
18th Dec '15 2:22:10 PM yamiblade
Is there an issue? Send a Message
Added DiffLines:
* Was Slick ever actually Approved for Selling his Soul?
9th Dec '15 10:40:36 AM crazysamaritan
Is there an issue? Send a Message
holy, hells of Troper Tales... I don't know where to begin to fix the natter on this page.
* Considering that Tatsuya mocks Slick's misunderstanding of TheBechdelTest [[http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-05-15 here]], are there more than a few pages where it's passed? I mean, ever since it became feminist we've seen some new female characters, but all they seem to talk about is how men are such sexist pigdogs--so they're still talking about men for the most part. ** Yeah they are still going. It's good Tats is passionate about feminism. But he isn't going to let it die down. So, it's between Lil'E and Feminism now.
to:
* Considering that Tatsuya mocks Slick's misunderstanding of TheBechdelTest UsefulNotes/TheBechdelTest [[http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2013-05-15 here]], are there more than a few pages where it's passed? I mean, ever Ever since it became feminist we've seen some new female characters, but all they seem to talk about is how men are such sexist pigdogs--so they're still talking about men for the most part. ** Yeah they are still going. part. It's good Tats is passionate about feminism. But he isn't going to let it die down. So, it's between Lil'E and Feminism now.
This list shows the last 10 events of 244. Show all.