History Headscratchers / SilentHill3

28th Feb '16 4:54:19 PM Twist
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** Probably another case of Silent Hill playing on people's fears...

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** Probably another case of Silent Hill playing on people's fears...¸
** Actually, the roller coaster did make her jump in the right spot. After jumping off, she landed on the soft (I assume, kinda hard to tell because of the graphics) roof of a souvenir/popcorn wagon instead of the hard metal floor.
28th Feb '16 11:28:53 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** Yup. Look at the fifth paragraph down from this one; monster behavior is "keep shambling towards the puny human bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe," while human behavior is "panic and run away from the fucking lunatic bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe." It's much easier to believe when you look at it that way.

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** Yup. Look at the fifth paragraph down from this one; monster behavior is "keep slowly shambling towards the puny human bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe," while human behavior behavior, broadly speaking, is "panic and run away from the fucking lunatic bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe." It's much easier to believe when you look at it that way.
13th Jan '16 12:49:00 PM lady_peaseblossom
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** Maybe because no matter how full of righteous anger you are, the act of killing another human being for the first time is an extremely difficult one? Heather's not a seasoned soldier-- she's only ''seventeen''. Sure, she may have been given marksmanship lessons from her father, but practicing on a dummy and killing an actual living thing are two vastly different things. Just look at the way she reacts when she fires the first shot at the Mandarin at the beginning of the game-- she ''cries out'' when the gun goes off for the first time, and that was against a ''monster''. I have no problem believing that she would blanch at committing cold-blooded murder, no matter how desperate for vengeance she was or how much Claudia deserved it.

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** Maybe because no matter how full of righteous anger you are, the act of killing another human being for the first time is usually an extremely difficult one? Heather's not a seasoned soldier-- soldier or even a sociopath-- from all appearances she's only ''seventeen''.a normal seventeen-year-old girl. Sure, she may have been given marksmanship lessons from her father, but practicing on a dummy and killing an actual living thing are two vastly different things. Just look at the way she reacts when she fires the first shot at the Mandarin at the beginning of the game-- she ''cries out'' when the gun goes off for the first time, and that was against a ''monster''. I have no problem believing that she would blanch at committing cold-blooded murder, no matter how desperate for vengeance she was or how much Claudia deserved it.
13th Jan '16 12:45:15 PM lady_peaseblossom
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** Maybe because no matter how full of righteous anger you are, the act of killing another human being for the first time is an extremely difficult one? Heather's not a seasoned soldier-- she's only <i>seventeen</i>. Sure, she may have been given marksmanship lessons from her father, but practicing on a dummy and killing an actual living thing are two vastly different things. Just look at the way she reacts when she fires the first shot at the Mandarin at the beginning of the game-- she <i>cries out</i> when the gun goes off for the first time, and that was against a <i>monster</i>. I have no problem believing that she would blanch at committing cold-blooded murder, no matter how desperate for vengeance she was or how much Claudia deserved it.

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** Maybe because no matter how full of righteous anger you are, the act of killing another human being for the first time is an extremely difficult one? Heather's not a seasoned soldier-- she's only <i>seventeen</i>.''seventeen''. Sure, she may have been given marksmanship lessons from her father, but practicing on a dummy and killing an actual living thing are two vastly different things. Just look at the way she reacts when she fires the first shot at the Mandarin at the beginning of the game-- she <i>cries out</i> ''cries out'' when the gun goes off for the first time, and that was against a <i>monster</i>.''monster''. I have no problem believing that she would blanch at committing cold-blooded murder, no matter how desperate for vengeance she was or how much Claudia deserved it.
13th Jan '16 12:44:42 PM lady_peaseblossom
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** Maybe because no matter how full of righteous anger you are, the act of killing another human being for the first time is an extremely difficult one? Heather's not a seasoned soldier-- she's only <i>seventeen</i>. Sure, she may have been given marksmanship lessons from her father, but practicing on a dummy and killing an actual living thing are two vastly different things. Just look at the way she reacts when she fires the first shot at the Mandarin at the beginning of the game-- she <i>cries out</i> when the gun goes off for the first time, and that was against a <i>monster</i>. I have no problem believing that she would blanch at committing cold-blooded murder, no matter how desperate for vengeance she was or how much Claudia deserved it.
30th Jun '15 10:34:12 PM AlinhoAlisson
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[[folder:Why am I not shooting her ass again?]]
* There are many cutscenes on the game where Heather will just point her gun at Claudia and threaten to kill her, but in the end, she gives up in all of them. The only instance where Heather can shoot Claudia is when controlled by the player near the final battle, which will lead to a DownerEnding where God is born. Now, I understand that God is nurtured by hatred and all that, but Claudia hints several times that killing her wouldn't be enough for it to happen. Such as: Not remembering her "true self", not being at the right place, ''not being at the right time''. So, I don't see any logical reasons for Heather to just wait or try to reason with an obviously insane woman who just murdered her father and shoot her ass up while there's still time. It's not even like she ''needed'' a reason the first time, because she didn't even understand the hatred plot point. Had she done this, she'd be back to her life and would forget about the whole "Silent Hill, God and Paradise" thing.
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15th Mar '15 8:00:10 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** Yup. Look at the fourth paragraph down from this one; monster behavior is "keep shambling towards the puny human bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe," while human behavior is "panic and run away from the fucking lunatic bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe." It's much easier to believe when you look at it that way.
*** Well then, you just solved your own mystery, didn't you? The monsters don't run away, therefore, they're not human.

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** Yup. Look at the fourth fifth paragraph down from this one; monster behavior is "keep shambling towards the puny human bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe," while human behavior is "panic and run away from the fucking lunatic bashing in your friend's skull with a pipe." It's much easier to believe when you look at it that way.
*** Well then, you just solved your own mystery, didn't you? The monsters don't run away, therefore, they're not human.
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11th Feb '15 6:55:31 PM BearyScary
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** It's possible that, since Heather took the aglaophotis orally, it had an emetic effect on her. It went in one way and took the evil back out the same way. Also, there's the fact that the "god" "completes" its birth after being swallowed by Claudia, which may mean that the "god" doesn't need a womb to be "born".

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** It's possible that, since Heather took the aglaophotis orally, it had an emetic effect on her. It went in one way and took the evil back out the same way. Also, there's the fact that the "god" "completes" its birth after being swallowed by Claudia, which may mean that the "god" doesn't need a womb to be "born". Considering that Claudia was able to give birth to it afterwards and in the way that she did lends credence to the "born from the soul" theory above. At that point, the god was far enough along after being nourished by Heather's hatred towards Claudia (and, to a lesser degree, Vincent, possibly?) that it just needed a soul that believed in it and/or had enough hatred to nourish it (possibly Claudia's hatred towards her father?) to term.
24th Jan '15 6:59:40 AM AimlessMeadering
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*** Well then, you just solved your own mystery, didn't you? The monsters don't run away, therefore, they're not human.
21st Jan '15 11:09:05 AM GopherBroke
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*** There's no indication that she's not a relatively normal human being, outside of having telekinetic powers. It seems pretty unlikely that she was pregnant with the cult's god in the same way that a person would be literally pregnant with a fetus. All of the graphic symbolism related to birth in the game is really just symbolism, and probably doesn't reflect what would have happened if Heather had actually "birthed" the god. From its birth scenes in both the first ''Silent Hill'' and this one, it seems more likely that the incubation is spiritual.

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*** There's no indication that she's not a relatively normal human being, outside of having telekinetic powers. It So, it seems pretty unlikely that she was pregnant with the cult's god in the same way that a person would be literally pregnant with a fetus. All of the graphic symbolism related to birth in the game is really just symbolism, and probably doesn't reflect what would have happened if Heather had actually "birthed" the god. From its birth scenes in both the first ''Silent Hill'' and this one, it seems more most likely that it's born from the incubation is spiritual.soul (and probably destroys the body) of the person incubating it.
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