History Headscratchers / SayaNoUta

17th Aug '16 10:19:53 AM cillianflood
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** I question whether Saya even has the physical capability to (easily) rape someone. Considering her strength seems to approximately match that of a young girl and judging by how long she was shacked up Fuminori before seeding she needed a lot of semen to be dangerous. I don't think her ability to alter brain chemistry and physical make up was something she had naturally either, rather something she learned by anaylising human DNA.
23rd Jul '16 9:34:49 PM CovertEva
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**what we see of her seems to be a mass of slimy flesh. I imagine it would feel at least decent for a normal human to...I'll stop before putting that image into your brain.


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**Saya probably tried to make Yosuke's condition as close to Fuminori's as possible, which included making him percieve Saya the very same way. As for the sundress...uh...maybe her species has some sort of protective layer of flesh that they can shed at will and Fuminori and Yosuke just percieve it as clothes?
22nd Jan '16 2:44:36 PM PurpleAlert
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**** Whiny moralizing aside, that wouldn't actually make sense. Even if he's a monster, he's still physically a normal human.

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**** Whiny moralizing Moralizing aside, that wouldn't actually make sense. Even if he's a monster, he's still physically a normal human.human.
***** Why should that make a difference? All the other characters that Fuminori interacts with besides Saya are actually decent-hearted people, and when Saya messes Yosuke up, he instantly becomes a pedophile rapist. It's an AlternativeCharacterInterpretation but it does imply that Fuminori sees normal people as monsters and monsters as normal people, including himself.
18th Dec '15 10:24:13 AM PurpleAlert
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* How does [[spoiler: Yousuke]] end up seeing Saya the same way Fuminori does? [[spoiler: Yeah, they have the same brain disorder that makes the world appear disgusting, so that at least makes a certain amount of sense, but]] how can Saya look the same way every time [[spoiler: to two different people]] if her appearance is entirely a hallucination? And why does she appear to be wearing ''clothes''? Is the reason looking at her makes normals go insane because they're looking at an eldritch abomination wearing a sundress?
16th Dec '15 1:57:56 PM PurpleAlert
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* So Fuminori's mental condition. The framing device of the story and a massively important plot detail. Was it just a massive coincidence that he happened to suffer from an never heard before illness that made him compatible with Eldritch Abominations? I was expecting it to be revealed at some point that Saya or Oughi were behind it but as far as I can see the cause of it is never addressed beyond the accident. Which makes Saya's species seem to suck at their job since she got super lucky there was something able to breed with her via massive coincidence

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* So Fuminori's mental condition. The framing device of the story and a massively important plot detail. Was it just a massive coincidence that he happened to suffer from an never heard before illness that made him compatible with Eldritch Abominations? I was expecting it to be revealed at some point that Saya or Oughi were behind it but as far as I can see the cause of it is never addressed beyond the accident. Which makes Saya's species seem to suck at their job since she got super lucky there was something able to breed with her via massive coincidencecoincidence.
** Not really. Saya is sexually compatible with humans regardless of how they see her, they just obviously wouldn't ''want'' to because literally no sane person would get near that. The coincidence just makes it possible for her to have consensual sex with a human. [[spoiler: Otherwise she'd have to rape some poor, sad person to get the DNA samples she needs.]]


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** She's most likely referring to Ougai, not Saya. She could have killed him, but didn't for whatever reason.
16th Dec '15 1:51:56 PM PurpleAlert
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** Anytime she attacked a human, she had 2 advantages, surprise, and the fact that they were looking at a whatever she was.
[[spoiler:With Yusuke she had neither of those.]]

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** Anytime she attacked a human, she had 2 advantages, surprise, and the fact that they were looking at a whatever she was. \n [[spoiler:With Yusuke she had neither of those.]]
** That's still pushing it, I think. She's nigh-impossible to kill or damage and [[spoiler: Yousuke]] had been a very docile person up to that point, it's not like he was a secret agent with combat training. Saya really shouldn't have needed much advantage over him, considering how hard [[spoiler: the ending fight is.
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16th Dec '15 9:04:41 AM PurpleAlert
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*** Sorta begs the question why he didn't just wear a blindfold, then. If he perceived everything normally until he started being able to see and his other senses warped to go with it, then the simple solution would be to just live blind.
19th Jun '15 5:50:53 PM cillianflood
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* So Fuminori's mental condition. The framing device of the story and a massively important plot detail. Was it just a massive coincidence that he happened to suffer from an never heard before illness that made him compatible with Eldritch Abominations? I was expecting it to be revealed at some point that Saya or Oughi were behind it but as far as I can see the cause of it is never addressed beyond the accident. Which makes Saya's species seem to suck at their job since she got super lucky there was something able to breed with her via massive coincidence
* So what exactly did Tanbo see that drove her so over the edge? She repeatedly says she wishes she had a gun a year ago and that she could have ended it all back then which made this troper assume she had had some form of run in with Saya but the final ending her inner monologue says she never met Saya. Was it just a couple of mutated rats that gave her repeated nightmares to the extent she stole and illegally modified her father's gun? Apart from that comment it makes sense she's seen Saya before given her parallels with Kouji in the other ending and her own seeming lack of reaction upon seeing Saya in that ending. Plus her general zealous willingness to kill Saya.
11th Jun '15 11:30:51 PM eliaskelham
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** I think the whole brain condition thing is the ''very reason'' he's able to enjoy his sex with Saya. If you look at the way he perceives his former friends after the accident, it's abundantly clear that he'd never be able to have sex with any of ''them'' ever again. I think that after the accident happened, he'd actually changed in more ways than just his perception. He'd pretty much ''become''like Saya once his gorn-o-vision set in. I don't think he was human anymore, especially when it comes to his sexuality and eating preferences.

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** I think the whole brain condition thing is the ''very reason'' he's able to enjoy his sex with Saya. If you look at the way he perceives his former friends after the accident, it's abundantly clear that he'd never be able to have sex with any of ''them'' ever again. I think that after the accident happened, he'd actually changed in more ways than just his perception. He'd pretty much ''become''like ''become'' like Saya once his gorn-o-vision set in. I don't think he was human anymore, especially when it comes to his sexuality and eating preferences.
11th Jun '15 11:29:57 PM eliaskelham
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**I think the whole brain condition thing is the ''very reason'' he's able to enjoy his sex with Saya. If you look at the way he perceives his former friends after the accident, it's abundantly clear that he'd never be able to have sex with any of ''them'' ever again. I think that after the accident happened, he'd actually changed in more ways than just his perception. He'd pretty much ''become''like Saya once his gorn-o-vision set in. I don't think he was human anymore, especially when it comes to his sexuality and eating preferences.
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