History Headscratchers / RozenMaiden

1st Sep '14 8:38:04 PM PhysicalStamina
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* Shinku in episode 11: "As a Rozen Maiden, we are not allowed to torment or '''harm''' humans." Shinku in previous episodes: *kicks Jun in the shin multiple times*\\
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'''''I'M SORRY, WHAT?'''''
27th Jul '14 3:06:14 PM garshara
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*In the third season, Suiseiseki and Souseiseki suddenly are given two reality-altering powers that they claim to have had all along, but to use the powers they must work together. It plays a big role in the ending but where the hell did these powers come from? Seems like an ass pull.
8th Apr '14 5:20:43 PM TVRulezAgain
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* Out of curiousity, are we supposed to consider Rozen in any way worthy of the desperate WellDoneSonGuy love most of the dolls have towards him? His actions, particularly the one of making his creations, who are living things rather than just dolls, believe the only way to be worthy of his love is to ''kill each other'' and not telling any of them there were other ways, seem to qualify him as a colossal JerkAss at best, if not an outright CompleteMonster. .
** Except for making the dolls fight each other for the title of Alice, there are no real explicit bad intentions in Rozen's motifs. I also seem to think that your definitions of both JerkAss ''and'' CompleteMonster are very off, as there are people who have done worse things than just arranging a tournament to the death and are not considered irredeemably evil (the one most defining feature of the CompleteMonster) and as for Rozen being a JerkAss... Nah, if he were a real dick like that, the dolls wouldn't love him, right? Besides, in the end he does inform the dolls of a better way to complete the Alice Game, so that really disproves him as an irredeemable asshole. Not perfect, by all means, but still not 100% bad.

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* Out of curiousity, are we supposed to consider Rozen in any way worthy of the desperate WellDoneSonGuy love most of the dolls have towards him? His actions, particularly the one of making his creations, who are living things rather than just dolls, believe the only way to be worthy of his love is to ''kill each other'' and not telling any of them there were other ways, seem to qualify him as a colossal JerkAss at best, if not an outright CompleteMonster. .
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** Except for making the dolls fight each other for the title of Alice, there are no real explicit bad intentions in Rozen's motifs. I also seem to think that your definitions of both JerkAss ''and'' CompleteMonster are very off, as there are people who have done worse things than just arranging a tournament to the death and are not considered irredeemably evil (the one most defining feature of the CompleteMonster) and as As for Rozen being a JerkAss... Nah, if he were a real dick like that, the dolls wouldn't love him, right? Besides, in the end he does inform the dolls of a better way to complete the Alice Game, so that really disproves him as an irredeemable asshole. Not perfect, by all means, but still not 100% bad.
5th Feb '14 8:07:03 PM Uberchu
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** Father is [[spoiler:Jun Sakurada]].
26th Jan '14 5:41:53 PM DiplomatfromPluto
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* After watching the third anime season, ''Zuruckspulen'' I still have a lot of questions. First of all, who or what the hell is that anthropomorphic rabbit that keeps popping up? He's apparently called "Laplace's Demon", but I don't think his name has ever been mentioned, nor does anyone in the anime know who he is. Second, who is Father and where/how did he get the power to create the rozen maidens? And why did he abandon Suigintou in ''Overture''? (Although I have read that that plot was only a problem in the anime). Who is Kirakishou and why didn't she have a normal body? Now I realize that the manga ended prematurely and I'm not sure if there is a proper conclusion, but I just wanted to know if there was any information that I had missed.
3rd Nov '13 1:27:20 AM WorstEditorEver
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* So, is Traumend canon?
18th Nov '12 6:27:24 PM tkdk
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** Although it was Suigintou and Shinku fighting at the time, Shinku never actually landed a "finishing blow" on Suigintou. In the end, her final attack backfired and ended up exposing her as unfinished, and then she was pulled back into the N-Field (or... wherever.) Considering the fact that when Suigintou returned in the second season she was in pristine condition again (sans her missing stomach), it might even be possible to say that it was Rozen who summoned her to him once again to be made proper for the official Alice fights much like he did in Ouverture and the end of season two.

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** Although it was Suigintou and Shinku fighting at the time, Shinku never actually landed a "finishing blow" on Suigintou. In the end, her final attack backfired and ended up exposing [[spoiler:exposing her as unfinished, unfinished]], and then she was pulled back into the N-Field (or... wherever.) Considering the fact that when Suigintou [[spoiler:Suigintou returned in the second season she was in pristine condition again (sans her missing stomach), stomach),]] it might even be possible to say that it was Rozen who summoned her to him once again to be made proper for the official Alice fights much like he did in Ouverture [[spoiler:Ouverture and the end of season two.two]].



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18th Nov '12 6:25:10 PM tkdk
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** Although it was Suigintou and Shinku fighting at the time, Shinku never actually landed a "finishing blow" on Suigintou. In the end, her final attack backfired and ended up exposing her as unfinished, and then she was pulled back into the N-Field (or... wherever.) Considering the fact that when Suigintou returned in the second season she was in pristine condition again (sans her missing stomach), it might even be possible to say that it was Rozen who summoned her to him once again to be made proper for the official Alice fights much like he did in Ouverture and the end of season two.
9th Sep '12 4:25:45 PM tooknown
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*** I suppose. The English version definitely says "revive" on that page. If I had the original Japanese I could compare, but it's too much trouble to go through.
17th Jul '12 6:37:24 AM YuriAngel
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**Really, it was just a clip to show Jun how the Alice Game worked. Plus, keep in mind that none of them had ever seen a Rosa Mystica before, ignoring the OVA.
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