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21st Jul '17 9:23:02 PM Drgonzo
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* So in the cutscene where Salazar says he is 20 years old, Leon says "I guess you're another puppet of the paradise" - why does he conclude that? Couldn't he just be a dwarf?[[/folder]]

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* So in the cutscene where Salazar says he is 20 years old, Leon says "I guess you're another puppet of the paradise" parasite" - why does he conclude that? Couldn't he just be a dwarf?[[/folder]]
dwarf?
** Leon's not reacting to Salazar's height, he's reacting to how advanced in age Salazar looks. Dude looks like he's got a mild case of progeria (rapid aging syndrome) no doubt brought on by the Plagas in his body. If I put Salazar in front of you and didn't tell you anything about him, you'd probably guess he was in his late 40's at BEST.
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17th Jul '17 9:04:52 AM ZShogan
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* So in the cutscene where Salazar says he is 20 years old, Leon says "I guess you're another puppet of the paradise" - why does he conclude that? Couldn't he just be a dwarf?[[/folder]]

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* So in the cutscene where Salazar says he is 20 years old, Leon says "I guess you're another puppet of the paradise" - why does he conclude that? Couldn't he just be a dwarf?[[/folder]]dwarf?[[/folder]]

[[folder: Two Holsters, One Pistol]]
* Leon starts the game with just a pistol, which we can see from the cutscene where he finds Ada at the boat dock he keeps in the holster on his thigh. However, when he loses his jacket, we see that he has a shoulder rig with a pistol holster plus a carrier for two magazines. Why have two holsters but just one pistol?
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2nd Jul '17 8:25:08 AM Drgonzo
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** A trait Saddler and Salazar both share is their arrogance. Notice that, for all their efforts to kill him, neither of them take Leon seriously until he's killed his way right to their feet. It's possible, even ''likely'' that they're operating on the assumption that they can eat the cost of killing Leon and replenishing their resources later. They're looking so far down the road, they're falling into the hole they don't see right in front of them.
9th Apr '17 4:45:57 PM GuiRitter
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* Related to the above; Saddler, Salazar, and the Ganados themselves firmly ascribe to the WeHaveReserves mentality, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough even though they have no means of taking on more troops]]. Although they have a Plaga Queen producing an endless supply of parasites, those plaga need hosts to be useful, the the local uninfected human population is pretty much shot. They can't expand much further without attracting unwanted attention, and have aspirations of global dominance to consider. The only Plaga controller even remotely concerned about attrition is Cheif Mendez, and even he was content to let Leon slay as many Ganados as he could until he proved to be more of a threat than initially suspected. If Saddler is willing to dismiss Mike's slaughter of almost a hundred men as "a bothersome fly", then either there are thousands more Ganados than we see in the game (which relates to the above headscratcher), or he's really out of touch with the concept of "manpower".

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* Related to the above; Saddler, Salazar, and the Ganados themselves firmly ascribe to the WeHaveReserves mentality, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough even though they have no means of taking on more troops]]. Although they have a Plaga Queen producing an endless supply of parasites, those plaga need hosts to be useful, the the local uninfected human population is pretty much shot. They can't expand much further without attracting unwanted attention, and have aspirations of global dominance to consider. The only Plaga controller even remotely concerned about attrition is Cheif Mendez, and even he was content to let Leon slay as many Ganados as he could until he proved to be more of a threat than initially suspected. If Saddler is willing to dismiss Mike's slaughter of almost a hundred men as "a bothersome fly", then either there are thousands more Ganados than we see in the game (which relates to the above headscratcher), or he's really out of touch with the concept of "manpower".



*** Considering Leon grabs ammo from the Ganados for guns that they don't even have (and you can't even buy it from the Merchant), the guns in general just run into all kinds of FridgeLogic as far as canon is concerned, Merchant or not. (And still, it's not that hard to imagine he dug up a few guns lying around somewhere, like he did for the Broken Butterfly and the Shotgun.) The the answer to the question of "where else does he get the TMP and that shotgun if there's no Merchant?" is the same as the answer to questions like "where does he get all that ammo?" Answer: "Don't think about it too hard."

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*** Considering Leon grabs ammo from the Ganados for guns that they don't even have (and you can't even buy it from the Merchant), the guns in general just run into all kinds of FridgeLogic as far as canon is concerned, Merchant or not. (And still, it's not that hard to imagine he dug up a few guns lying around somewhere, like he did for the Broken Butterfly and the Shotgun.) The the answer to the question of "where else does he get the TMP and that shotgun if there's no Merchant?" is the same as the answer to questions like "where does he get all that ammo?" Answer: "Don't think about it too hard."



* In VideoGame/ResidentEvil4, Leon passes out after getting past Del Lago. When he awakens, he finds an anonymous note telling him that, among other things, the author couldn't help Leon with his parasites. At this point, Leon has exactly two allies who could have left the note: Luis and Ada. Luis had pills that could suppress Las Plagas, which contradicts the the message. Separate Ways shows that Ada was K.O.'d after shooting Mendez and didn't wake up until the cabin battle. So, who left the note?

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* In VideoGame/ResidentEvil4, Leon passes out after getting past Del Lago. When he awakens, he finds an anonymous note telling him that, among other things, the author couldn't help Leon with his parasites. At this point, Leon has exactly two allies who could have left the note: Luis and Ada. Luis had pills that could suppress Las Plagas, which contradicts the the message. Separate Ways shows that Ada was K.O.'d after shooting Mendez and didn't wake up until the cabin battle. So, who left the note?



** Remember, Saddler's plan was to infect Ashley with a Queen Plaga, the one Luis had stolen. Ahsley hadn't been implanted with that plaga yet, only with a normal one, so it'd be counterproductive to let them take her away.

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** Remember, Saddler's plan was to infect Ashley with a Queen Plaga, the one Luis had stolen. Ahsley Ashley hadn't been implanted with that plaga yet, only with a normal one, so it'd be counterproductive to let them take her away.
17th Mar '17 10:30:26 AM CommissarCain
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** I always figured he was offing them for kicks. Salazar is a pretty sadistic and twisted individual, so I wouldn't put it past him to kill his own servants because he got some kind of sick thrill out of it. After all, when Leon successfully evades the trap, he complains about not hearing the "satisfying sound of one's impalement". I could honestly imagine him forcing a bunch of Ganados to line up and step onto the trap door one by one, just watching them all obediently shuffle to their dooms and cackling all the while.
21st Feb '17 11:13:13 PM AntiDragon4185
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[[folder: Let's just squander another batch of limited, irreplaceable troops; we've only lost a thousand so far.]]
* Related to the above; Saddler, Salazar, and the Ganados themselves firmly ascribe to the WeHaveReserves mentality, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough even though they have no means of taking on more troops]]. Although they have a Plaga Queen producing an endless supply of parasites, those plaga need hosts to be useful, the the local uninfected human population is pretty much shot. They can't expand much further without attracting unwanted attention, and have aspirations of global dominance to consider. The only Plaga controller even remotely concerned about attrition is Cheif Mendez, and even he was content to let Leon slay as many Ganados as he could until he proved to be more of a threat than initially suspected. If anything, the villains become progressively less concerned with loss of their underlings as the game wears on. If Saddler is willing to dismiss Mike's slaughter of almost a hundred men as "a bothersome fly", then either there are thousands more Ganados than we see in the game (which relates to the above headscratcher), or he's really out of touch with the concept of "manpower".

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[[folder: Let's just squander another batch of limited, irreplaceable troops; we've only lost a thousand so far.]]
* Related to the above; Saddler, Salazar, and the Ganados themselves firmly ascribe to the WeHaveReserves mentality, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough even though they have no means of taking on more troops]]. Although they have a Plaga Queen producing an endless supply of parasites, those plaga need hosts to be useful, the the local uninfected human population is pretty much shot. They can't expand much further without attracting unwanted attention, and have aspirations of global dominance to consider. The only Plaga controller even remotely concerned about attrition is Cheif Mendez, and even he was content to let Leon slay as many Ganados as he could until he proved to be more of a threat than initially suspected. If anything, the villains become progressively less concerned with loss of their underlings as the game wears on. If Saddler is willing to dismiss Mike's slaughter of almost a hundred men as "a bothersome fly", then either there are thousands more Ganados than we see in the game (which relates to the above headscratcher), or he's really out of touch with the concept of "manpower".


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[[folder: Salazar executing his own puppets.]]
* When Salazar dumps Lean into his trapdoor deathtrap, you can see roughly a dozen ganados adorning the various spike in at the bottom. Yet Salazar himself confirmed less than an hour ago that he had "Ab-see-lute control!" while the ganados were inherently subservient. What could they have done to displease him if they were utterly incapable of disobedience?
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21st Feb '17 1:40:41 AM AntiDragon4185
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[[folder: Let's just squander another batch of limited, irreplaceable troops; we've only lost a thousand so far.]]
21st Feb '17 1:38:30 AM AntiDragon4185
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[[folder: Alright my minions, do... whatever it is you normally do or something.]]
* Not a Headscratcher in the plot hole sense so much as an "I wonder" sort of way, but what exactly do Ganados do when they're not under Master-Plagas-orders to kill everyone in sight? As far as I'm aware, there's nothing that makes them inherently violent, and among other things, potentially getting their hosts killed is probably counterproductive to their survival. And what's it like from the human's perspective? They still maintain their human intelligence (albeit probably at a loss of a couple dozen IQ points) and we've even seen a cutscene with two Ganados having a conversation and joking around (Separate Ways).
** Judging from some of the earlier parts of the game, the Ganados just carry on with the lives they once had. For the most part, they do a decent job continuing on, but they have trouble nailing sanitary behavior.

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[[folder: Alright my minions, do... whatever it is you normally do or something.]]
* Not a Headscratcher in
Where the plot hole sense so much as an "I wonder" sort of way, but what exactly do heck did all these Ganados do when they're not under Master-Plagas-orders to come from?!]]
* Looking at the highest possible
kill everyone count in sight? As far as I'm aware, there's nothing that makes them inherently violent, both the main game and among other things, potentially getting Ada's mini campaign, they can wrack up a death toll of almost fifteen hundred slaughtered plaga, the majority of which are human or formally human hosts. The village where most of these "recruits" came from is extremely rudimentary, and looks like it can barely sustain a few dozen families. Yes, the plaga directing their hosts killed is actions don't consider hygiene a huge concern, and probably counterproductive to their survival. And what's it like from let the human's perspective? They still maintain their infrastructure deteriorate, but you would think that a community of a least several thousand people wouldn't be that easy to hide away in a forest somewhere [[note]] a community with a population of 1,000 to 20,000 is considered a ''town'', whereas a ''village'' is a human intelligence (albeit probably at settlement or community that is larger than a loss of hamlet but, smaller than a couple dozen IQ points) and we've even seen a cutscene with two Ganados having a conversation and joking around (Separate Ways).
** Judging from some of the earlier parts of the game, the Ganados just carry on with the lives they once had. For the most part, they do a decent job continuing on, but they have trouble nailing sanitary behavior.
town.[[/note]]


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* Related to the above; Saddler, Salazar, and the Ganados themselves firmly ascribe to the WeHaveReserves mentality, [[DidNotThinkThisThrough even though they have no means of taking on more troops]]. Although they have a Plaga Queen producing an endless supply of parasites, those plaga need hosts to be useful, the the local uninfected human population is pretty much shot. They can't expand much further without attracting unwanted attention, and have aspirations of global dominance to consider. The only Plaga controller even remotely concerned about attrition is Cheif Mendez, and even he was content to let Leon slay as many Ganados as he could until he proved to be more of a threat than initially suspected. If anything, the villains become progressively less concerned with loss of their underlings as the game wears on. If Saddler is willing to dismiss Mike's slaughter of almost a hundred men as "a bothersome fly", then either there are thousands more Ganados than we see in the game (which relates to the above headscratcher), or he's really out of touch with the concept of "manpower".
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[[folder: Alright my minions, do... whatever it is you normally do or something.]]
* Not a Headscratcher in the plot hole sense so much as an "I wonder" sort of way, but what exactly do Ganados do when they're not under Master-Plagas-orders to kill everyone in sight? As far as I'm aware, there's nothing that makes them inherently violent, and among other things, potentially getting their hosts killed is probably counterproductive to their survival. And what's it like from the human's perspective? They still maintain their human intelligence (albeit probably at a loss of a couple dozen IQ points) and we've even seen a cutscene with two Ganados having a conversation and joking around (Separate Ways).
** Judging from some of the earlier parts of the game, the Ganados just carry on with the lives they once had. For the most part, they do a decent job continuing on, but they have trouble nailing sanitary behavior.
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11th Feb '17 5:59:17 PM C0LdP5yCh0
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** This troper is a biology student- it probably reproduces asexually, quite a few parasites have two genders. They produce eggs and self fertilise, so the Ganados could still collect eggs for infecting others with.
31st Dec '16 8:38:01 AM glassbooks
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[[folder:]] Puppet of the parasite... why does Leon call Salazar this?

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[[folder:]] [[folder: Puppet of the parasite... why does Leon call Salazar this?this?]]
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