History Headscratchers / RedDeadRedemption

11th Feb '17 3:24:47 AM HighfalutinQuelea
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** Alright, explanations. First, he's constantly mentioning his name is Herbert Moon because he is a fucking megalomaniac. Hear to him talk. He's only talking about Jews and himself. Second, he plays poker at the same time because he there is a separate NPC playing poker for every shopkeeper.
** Also, he's probably constantly being robbed because [[TheScrappy noone likes the bastard.]][[/folder]]

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** Alright, explanations. First, ***First, he's constantly mentioning his name is Herbert Moon because he is a fucking megalomaniac. Hear to him talk. He's only talking about Jews and himself. Second, he plays poker at the same time because he there is a separate NPC playing poker for every shopkeeper.
** *** Also, he's probably constantly being robbed because [[TheScrappy noone likes the bastard.]][[/folder]]
3rd Dec '16 9:50:54 PM Solicitr
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**True enough. In Virginia Beach there is a Witch Duck Road. For perfectly logical historical reasons,[[note]] The place where, in early Colonial times, accused witches were tested by submersion[[/note]] but most people just think it's weird and wonder why name a road for a sorcerous waterfowl.
23rd Oct '16 3:59:04 PM DuskNoble
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22nd Oct '16 10:50:36 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** I'll bite. For one, [[spoiler: The AMERICAN Old West might be mostly dead by 1914, but in the South and especially across the Mexican frontier the ongoing [[UsefulNotes/TheMexicanRevolution Mexican Revolution]] meant that the West as we know it had some life in it, and it more or less would continue until the Mexican revolutionary wars died off. [[WildMassGuessing I personally think the next game will probably take place mostly South of the border after Reyes gets the boot.]] As for the Mexican-esque appearence... what does a Mexican look like anyway? You have some that look lilly-white, some you could easily mistake for Amerindians or even BLACKS, and everything in between. Jack's appearence isn't that unbelievable. As for physical appearence... in a place without ready access to modern medicine you learn fast or die young, and the rate of physical development (muscles etc. al) would be far faster than say we coach potatos. As for the voice... some people really do sound like that all their life, but I call it TheyJustDidntCare to cast a new voice actor or change it up.]]

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** I'll bite. For one, [[spoiler: The AMERICAN Old West might be mostly dead by 1914, but in the South and especially across the Mexican frontier the ongoing [[UsefulNotes/TheMexicanRevolution Mexican Revolution]] meant that the West as we know it had some life in it, and it more or less would continue until the Mexican revolutionary wars died off. [[WildMassGuessing I personally think the next game will probably take place mostly South of the border after Reyes gets the boot.]] As for the Mexican-esque appearence... what does a Mexican look like anyway? You have some that look lilly-white, some you could easily mistake for Amerindians or even BLACKS, and everything in between. Jack's appearence isn't that unbelievable. As for physical appearence... in a place without ready access to modern medicine you learn fast or die young, and the rate of physical development (muscles etc. al) would be far faster than say we coach potatos. As for the voice... some people really do sound like that all their life, but I call it TheyJustDidntCare to cast a new voice actor or change it up.life.]]
6th Aug '16 3:20:59 PM erforce
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* I had never played RedDeadRevolver, and was worried about missing some plot points by coming into this game blind. I start playing and find them referring to events that happened years ago, and in my mind the fears are confirmed. I was halfway through the game before I realized that the game was just a SpiritualSuccessor, and had little-to-no connection with the first game, and Redemption just starts en medias res.

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* I had never played RedDeadRevolver, ''VideoGame/RedDeadRevolver'', and was worried about missing some plot points by coming into this game blind. I start playing and find them referring to events that happened years ago, and in my mind the fears are confirmed. I was halfway through the game before I realized that the game was just a SpiritualSuccessor, and had little-to-no connection with the first game, and Redemption just starts en medias res.



** Likewise. The events they speak of are John Marston's past, the Spanish-American War (those two ladies on the train), and the Mexican War (Jake speaking about Fort Mercer). RedDeadRevolver is not connected to this game at all.
** It's only meant to be taken loosely, like how some people believe the [=PS2=] GTA trilogy occurred before the GTAIV saga, despite there being no mention of the Salvatore family, or any of the major events from those previous games (the graffeti/mural of names is really more a shoutout than anything else). As someone suggested on the WMG, it's possible that the events of Revolver did occur, but were highly exaggerated (as most tales do, especially in the old west). I mean, Revolver bordered on Trigun level of actions (just without the all out superhuman looking characters).
** The events of Red Dead Revolver probably happened to some extent, some of the chatter and the book Jack is reading are hints to this, but to exactly what extent the first game really did happen is anyones guess, due to how over the top it was. There was probably a Red Harlowe and a Jack Swift, they probably fought and killed a gang led by the man who killed Reds father, but its very unlikely he was a governor, that sort of thing is way too cartoony for the Redemption setting. Same thing with the Mexican colonel, Mr Black, Pig Josh and the other outlaw bounties Red went after, there were probably some hint of truth in there, maybe carnival folk turned to crime but their actual portrayal in the game is unlikely to have been true.

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** Likewise. The events they speak of are John Marston's past, the Spanish-American War (those two ladies on the train), and the Mexican War (Jake speaking about Fort Mercer). RedDeadRevolver ''VideoGame/RedDeadRevolver'' is not connected to this game at all.
** It's only meant to be taken loosely, like how some people believe the [=PS2=] GTA ''GTA'' trilogy occurred before the GTAIV ''GTAIV'' saga, despite there being no mention of the Salvatore family, or any of the major events from those previous games (the graffeti/mural of names is really more a shoutout than anything else). As someone suggested on the WMG, it's possible that the events of Revolver did occur, but were highly exaggerated (as most tales do, especially in the old west). I mean, Revolver bordered on Trigun level of actions (just without the all out superhuman looking characters).
** The events of Red ''Red Dead Revolver Revolver'' probably happened to some extent, some of the chatter and the book Jack is reading are hints to this, but to exactly what extent the first game really did happen is anyones guess, due to how over the top it was. There was probably a Red Harlowe and a Jack Swift, they probably fought and killed a gang led by the man who killed Reds father, but its very unlikely he was a governor, that sort of thing is way too cartoony for the Redemption setting. Same thing with the Mexican colonel, Mr Black, Pig Josh and the other outlaw bounties Red went after, there were probably some hint of truth in there, maybe carnival folk turned to crime but their actual portrayal in the game is unlikely to have been true.
4th Jun '16 9:34:10 PM nombretomado
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** It's only meant to be taken loosely, like how some people believe the PS2 GTA trilogy occured before the GTAIV saga, despite there being no mention of the Salvatore family, or any of the major events from those previous games (the graffeti/mural of names is really more a shoutout than anything else). As someone suggested on the WMG, it's possible that the events of Revolver did occur, but were highly exaggerated (as most tales do, especially in the old west). I mean, Revolver bordered on Trigun level of actions (just without the all out superhuman looking characters).

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** It's only meant to be taken loosely, like how some people believe the PS2 [=PS2=] GTA trilogy occured occurred before the GTAIV saga, despite there being no mention of the Salvatore family, or any of the major events from those previous games (the graffeti/mural of names is really more a shoutout than anything else). As someone suggested on the WMG, it's possible that the events of Revolver did occur, but were highly exaggerated (as most tales do, especially in the old west). I mean, Revolver bordered on Trigun level of actions (just without the all out superhuman looking characters).
18th Dec '15 7:23:44 PM Doug86
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* Okay, so in the opening scene, we can see Bonnie McFarlane on the train from Blackwater. Ten minutes of plot later, when John first meets Bill at Fort Mercer, the former gets shot and rescued by...Bonnie McFarlane! Now, I'd know it'd make for a sucky game if it ended ten minutes after it began, but can someone tell me how and why Bonnie was there when she was, presumably, going back home to her ranch? I'm gonna have to pull an IronicEcho on her and ask: "Well, what were ''you'' doing out there, Miss McFarlane?"

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* Okay, so in the opening scene, we can see Bonnie McFarlane [=McFarlane=] on the train from Blackwater. Ten minutes of plot later, when John first meets Bill at Fort Mercer, the former gets shot and rescued by...Bonnie McFarlane! [=McFarlane=]! Now, I'd know it'd make for a sucky game if it ended ten minutes after it began, but can someone tell me how and why Bonnie was there when she was, presumably, going back home to her ranch? I'm gonna have to pull an IronicEcho on her and ask: "Well, what were ''you'' doing out there, Miss McFarlane?"[=McFarlane=]?"



** Actually, this is a really good point. Fort Mercer is nowhere near the McFarlane Ranch or Blackwater. She wouldn't really have any reason to go that way. But, [[spoiler: it's implied in the game that Bonnie really cares for John. The mission where she meets your wife, she stands in the road and watches the Marstons leave. John's wife also comments about Ms. McFarlane looking at him. Maybe Bonnie fell for John when she first saw him on the train, like love at first sight. Then she followed him because she couldn't stand knowing she would never see him again. Playing it cool, she doesn't stop where he stopped at Mercer and travels past it, returning later with random character #2 to see if he survived an encounter with a known bandit hideout. Noone gets that lucky, and it sure doesn't seem like the west for a random person to be so kind.]] Or does it?

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** Actually, this is a really good point. Fort Mercer is nowhere near the McFarlane [=McFarlane=] Ranch or Blackwater. She wouldn't really have any reason to go that way. But, [[spoiler: it's implied in the game that Bonnie really cares for John. The mission where she meets your wife, she stands in the road and watches the Marstons leave. John's wife also comments about Ms. McFarlane [=McFarlane=] looking at him. Maybe Bonnie fell for John when she first saw him on the train, like love at first sight. Then she followed him because she couldn't stand knowing she would never see him again. Playing it cool, she doesn't stop where he stopped at Mercer and travels past it, returning later with random character #2 to see if he survived an encounter with a known bandit hideout. Noone gets that lucky, and it sure doesn't seem like the west for a random person to be so kind.]] Or does it?



** Oh, and don't forget burning the McFarlane Barn and trying to kill you a good number of times. They do plenty to make themselves known in New Austin.

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** Oh, and don't forget burning the McFarlane [=McFarlane=] Barn and trying to kill you a good number of times. They do plenty to make themselves known in New Austin.
18th Aug '15 7:37:10 AM NeutralPerson
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** Maybe he got lucky and no one was actually around, whether they were looking for him or not, or the plot demanded his presence.



* Why would anyone shoot their own hostage while still within metres of their foes?

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** He probably jumped out a window, or is really fast.
* Why would anyone shoot their own hostage while still within metres a few feet of their foes? foes?
** He's a broken man. He cares little for his life at this point, he just wanted a few words before deciding to go completely nuts.


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** John didn't really want to kill the men he was trying to catch, let alone Dutch. It's hard for him to let go of his past life, despite his new life being better for him.
30th Jul '15 12:30:30 AM Atreides
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** TruthInTelevision. Pick up any real-life map and you're bound to find some unusual or bizarre sounding names. Often this is because they were initially named colloquial after a person, event or object that is long forgotten by most people.
28th Jul '15 11:41:06 PM Atreides
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