History Headscratchers / Radiohead

20th Jan '15 5:30:44 PM spirasen
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** Simple, Climbing Up the Walls is about going violently insane. And that's damn scary.
* Why is "Electioneering" such a disliked song? I've read a lot of otherwise-glowing reviews of OK Computer that inevitably trash it as the one weak spot on the album. I mean, its not the best song on the album but there's nothing particularly offensive about it. It seems like a fairly good song. Am I missing something?
** I've heard some good things about the song, so the trashing you're referring to is definitely not universal. It's probably because it's such a contrast to "Fitter Happier" and "Climbing Up The Walls".

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** Simple, Climbing "Climbing Up the Walls Walls" is about going violently insane. And that's damn scary.
* Why is "Electioneering" such a disliked song? I've read a lot of otherwise-glowing reviews of OK Computer Music/OKComputer that inevitably trash it as the one weak spot on the album. I mean, its it's not the best song on the album but there's nothing particularly offensive about it. It seems like a fairly good song. Am I missing something?
** I've heard some good things about the song, so the trashing you're referring to is definitely not universal. It's probably because it's such a contrast to "Fitter Happier" and "Climbing Up The Walls".the Walls."
3rd May '13 8:22:08 AM StaticFactory
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** CreatorBacklash as well.
12th Feb '13 9:38:08 AM LondonKdS
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** It's definitely a jolt to the system compared to the mostly slow/mid-tempo songs all around it. But I think the album needs it at that point. It's one of my favorite tracks, and even though Radiohead swears OKC isn't a concept album, "Electioneering" fits snugly into [[EpilepticTrees the narrative that exists only in my mind]].

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** It's definitely a jolt to the system compared to the mostly slow/mid-tempo songs all around it. But I think the album needs it at that point. It's one of my favorite tracks, and even though Radiohead swears OKC isn't a concept album, "Electioneering" fits snugly into [[EpilepticTrees the narrative that exists only in my mind]].mind]].
** A lot of people dislike it because it's a fairly straightforward rock song and they believe the band should have grown out of them by then. Also the blunt protest lyrics are seen as clunky compared to the more elliptical lyrics of the rest of the album.
12th Jun '12 11:34:21 PM SeptimusHeap
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* Why is "Climbing Up the Walls" usually cited as some kind of HighOctaneNightmareFuel type of track? Granted, I've always found the music HONF entry to be largely narmy (bad extreme metal lyrics splattered with words like 'blood', 'death', or 'vengeance' are not scary), but the song has an epic bassline and great string arrangements. The part at 3:05 onwards is a lot more awesome than it is disturbing/scary. "[[UncannyValley Fitter Happier]]" on the other hand...

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* Why is "Climbing Up the Walls" usually cited as some kind of HighOctaneNightmareFuel NightmareFuel type of track? Granted, I've always found the music HONF NF entry to be largely narmy (bad extreme metal lyrics splattered with words like 'blood', 'death', or 'vengeance' are not scary), but the song has an epic bassline and great string arrangements. The part at 3:05 onwards is a lot more awesome than it is disturbing/scary. "[[UncannyValley Fitter Happier]]" on the other hand...
12th Jun '12 6:43:11 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The massive exposure that "Creep" got drove away a lot of the fans who didn't want to be associated with the people who only knew Radiohead for that one song. It's made worse by the fact that the band's done a lot of sonic experimentation since then, and that a lot of people still associate Radiohead with "Creep" and nothing else. It's more HypeBacklash than anything, especially since there are other good songs on there (although YourMileageMayVary on this aspect as well).

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** The massive exposure that "Creep" got drove away a lot of the fans who didn't want to be associated with the people who only knew Radiohead for that one song. It's made worse by the fact that the band's done a lot of sonic experimentation since then, and that a lot of people still associate Radiohead with "Creep" and nothing else. It's more HypeBacklash than anything, especially since there are other good songs on there (although YourMileageMayVary on this aspect as well).there.
16th Feb '12 9:15:03 AM Jhimmibhob
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*** What's unfair about the situation is not that it split Radiohead's base, but it caused a backlash within ''the entire music community''. On rateyourmusic.com, ''Pablo Honey'' has a 2.99 out of 5 rating average, the only Radiohead album to get less than a 3. This is not the same with other bands. For example, Van Morrison's debut album ''Blowin' Your Mind'', considered one of his lesser albums by fans, has a 3.50 average. So why is Radiohead singled out?
*** Maybe because it just isn't a very good album?
**** [[Tropers/{{Sen}} I]]'ll second that. ''Pablo Honey'' is just part of the long tradition of "meh" debuts for great bands, like ''Confusion Is Sex'', ''Please Please Me'' (YMMV, I know, but it just sounds "meh" to me). TheBeachBoys' debut, everything MyBloodyValentine made before ''You Made Me Realise'', etc.
*** The problem with Pablo Honey as I see it is that, when compared to every other Radiohead album, is that it's quite generic alt rock. It's okay, and that's what makes it bad.
** Basically, while for an average rock band it would be a great album; but within Radiohead's back catalogue it lacks the weight of the other work. It's not especially bad, it's just the other albums make it look so by comparison.
*** Which is unfair. Taken objectively, it's still a good album overall, and this troper is certainly willing to defend its merits.
28th Dec '11 7:08:04 PM EldritchFox
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***Which is unfair. Taken objectively, it's still a good album overall, and this troper is certainly willing to defend its merits.
5th Jul '11 5:58:48 PM murlough23
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** Based on stuff I read on some Radiohead forums a couple years ago, some people seem to think the song is an odd one out on OK Computer. I honestly can't fathom why. It doesn't seem radically different to me, and it's a solid entry on the album. I like it, but it's never stood out to me one way or another. Go figure.

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** Based on stuff I read on some Radiohead forums a couple years ago, some people seem to think the song is an odd one out on OK Computer. I honestly can't fathom why. It doesn't seem radically different to me, and it's a solid entry on the album. I like it, but it's never stood out to me one way or another. Go figure.figure.
** It's definitely a jolt to the system compared to the mostly slow/mid-tempo songs all around it. But I think the album needs it at that point. It's one of my favorite tracks, and even though Radiohead swears OKC isn't a concept album, "Electioneering" fits snugly into [[EpilepticTrees the narrative that exists only in my mind]].
4th May '11 7:02:25 AM BrothaSoul
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** I've heard some good things about the song, so the trashing you're referring to is definitely not universal. It's probably because it's such a contrast to "Fitter Happier" and "Climbing Up The Walls".

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** I've heard some good things about the song, so the trashing you're referring to is definitely not universal. It's probably because it's such a contrast to "Fitter Happier" and "Climbing Up The Walls".Walls".
** Based on stuff I read on some Radiohead forums a couple years ago, some people seem to think the song is an odd one out on OK Computer. I honestly can't fathom why. It doesn't seem radically different to me, and it's a solid entry on the album. I like it, but it's never stood out to me one way or another. Go figure.
20th Apr '11 5:26:08 AM Cobweb
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** Simple, Climbing Up the Walls is about going violently insane. And that's damn scary.
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