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8th Apr '16 3:04:12 PM MitchellTF
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** Besides the simple 'They didn't ask the AIs"...they presumably thought of it as AIs being put in military 'slavery', especially AIs who got combat bodies and had to pay for them, or AIs 'made' for combat. The idea of an AI choosing to become a soldier was foreign to them.
2nd Feb '16 8:59:34 PM Thecommander236
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* I get that the AIs don't want to feared but why did the activists get AI soldiers banned? How is taking away rights from AIs at all helpful? That makes as much sense as LGBT activists getting the military to reenact Don't Ask, Don't Tell. It seems like the AI activist are taking two steps forward, one step back with their legislation. This is especially confusing to me because it denies several AIs their rights to choose their own career path AND this doesn't seem to exclude non-combative AIs.

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24th Oct '15 1:38:57 PM Discar
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* the whole "AI sexuality" thing, really. It started out as a one-shot gag involving Pintsize (who has no actual function except making crass jokes and behaving like an idiot) and expanded from there.
** broadly speaking, the AIs mostly present as either female (Momo, May, the Idoru staff) or neutral (Gordon, Winslow).
** they also follow most of the usual conventions; Station, in his role as Hannelore's surrogate parent, is pretty much an expy of Data or the "Voyager" Doctor hologram. Pintsize presents as male, because he is basically about gross-out humour and some fairly violent slapstick, which is a male role in live-action comedy. Kryten has various running jokes about "venting exhaust gases" and exactly where he attaches his vacuum-cleaner hose, in analogy. The Linux AnthroPC is basically a one-shot joke about computer geeks and neck beards.
** the female ones are either sympathetic (Momo) or in roles which wouldn't look out if place if played by Lucille Ball (the Idoru staff) or Roseanne Barr (May, in many ways). Momo can occasionally be risqué (the anatomically correct doll, or Sven day-dream) but this has been dropped because her present chassis would really not lend itself to this kind of thing
** mostly, AIs either have a more-or-less "human" presentation for convenient inter-action, or just don't bother because they don't need to, or (particularly Pintsize) would simply be an insufferable ass in human form. This DOES rather beg the question of why the world needs a robot convenience store assistant...

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* the whole "AI sexuality" thing, really. It started out as a one-shot gag involving Pintsize (who has no actual function except making crass jokes and behaving like an idiot) and expanded from there.
** broadly speaking, the AIs mostly present as either female (Momo, May, the Idoru staff) or neutral (Gordon, Winslow).
** they also follow most of the usual conventions; Station, in his role as Hannelore's surrogate parent, is pretty much an expy of Data or the "Voyager" Doctor hologram. Pintsize presents as male, because he is basically about gross-out humour and some fairly violent slapstick, which is a male role in live-action comedy. Kryten has various running jokes about "venting exhaust gases" and exactly where he attaches his vacuum-cleaner hose, in analogy. The Linux AnthroPC is basically a one-shot joke about computer geeks and neck beards.
** the female ones are either sympathetic (Momo) or in roles which wouldn't look out if place if played by Lucille Ball (the Idoru staff) or Roseanne Barr (May, in many ways). Momo can occasionally be risqué (the anatomically correct doll, or Sven day-dream) but this has been dropped because her present chassis would really not lend itself to this kind of thing
** mostly, AIs either have a more-or-less "human" presentation for convenient inter-action, or just don't bother because they don't need to, or (particularly Pintsize) would simply be an insufferable ass in human form. This DOES rather beg the question of why the world needs a robot convenience store assistant...
24th Oct '15 2:30:20 AM rigpig
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* the whole "AI sexuality" thing, really. It started out as a one-shot gag involving Pintsize (who has no actual function except making crass jokes and behaving like an idiot) and expanded from there.
** broadly speaking, the AIs mostly present as either female (Momo, May, the Idoru staff) or neutral (Gordon, Winslow).
** they also follow most of the usual conventions; Station, in his role as Hannelore's surrogate parent, is pretty much an expy of Data or the "Voyager" Doctor hologram. Pintsize presents as male, because he is basically about gross-out humour and some fairly violent slapstick, which is a male role in live-action comedy. Kryten has various running jokes about "venting exhaust gases" and exactly where he attaches his vacuum-cleaner hose, in analogy. The Linux AnthroPC is basically a one-shot joke about computer geeks and neck beards.
** the female ones are either sympathetic (Momo) or in roles which wouldn't look out if place if played by Lucille Ball (the Idoru staff) or Roseanne Barr (May, in many ways). Momo can occasionally be risqué (the anatomically correct doll, or Sven day-dream) but this has been dropped because her present chassis would really not lend itself to this kind of thing
** mostly, AIs either have a more-or-less "human" presentation for convenient inter-action, or just don't bother because they don't need to, or (particularly Pintsize) would simply be an insufferable ass in human form. This DOES rather beg the question of why the world needs a robot convenience store assistant...
2nd Oct '15 7:02:57 PM Ephialtes
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**I can speak from experience to say that this happens. If you see a woman a few times, there is that chemistry, and they claim to want to wait due to personal issues, and turn a round and start seeing g someone else... Well, it's a bummer. Makes you feel inadequate, or something. Now I need a beer.
4th Aug '15 2:35:35 PM Discar
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*** Given the little 'bots seem to be the only regular use of super science it sort of seems like ReedRichardsIsUseless.
*** The only one that we see, because the story is about the Marten & co. Perhaps the power stations run on cold fusion and there are colonies on Mars. That doesn't impact the characters' day-to-day lives; the lights work when you switch them on, however they're powered.
*** Uh, robots are used for other purposes. Hannelore's dad lives on a space station (where she was raised), there are robot TRUCKS, a sufficiently human body has been created, and that's just top of my head.
*** I seem to recall Hanners saying "I will move to the moon" at one point in response to somebody's creepy joke or something. We assume she is using a hyperbole, but maybe there really are colonies on the moon! It's like saying she'll move to China, it's silly but still possible.
*** Hanner's also made a comment in one of the strips how her father neglecting her was a reasonable price for bringing cancer-killing nanobots into the world, so it's safe to assume that the QC world is rather advanced. Mostly due to Hanner's dad.
* Wait, it's an AlternateUniverse? I always figured it was just set TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture.

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*** ** Given the little 'bots seem to be the only regular use of super science it sort of seems like ReedRichardsIsUseless.
*** ** The only one that we see, because the story is about the Marten & co. Perhaps the power stations run on cold fusion and there are colonies on Mars. That doesn't impact the characters' day-to-day lives; the lights work when you switch them on, however they're powered.
*** ** Uh, robots are used for other purposes. Hannelore's dad lives on a space station (where she was raised), there are robot TRUCKS, a sufficiently human body has been created, and that's just top of my head.
*** ** I seem to recall Hanners saying "I will move to the moon" at one point in response to somebody's creepy joke or something. We assume she is using a hyperbole, but maybe there really are colonies on the moon! It's like saying she'll move to China, it's silly but still possible.
*** ** Hanner's also made a comment in one of the strips how her father neglecting her was a reasonable price for bringing cancer-killing nanobots into the world, so it's safe to assume that the QC world is rather advanced. Mostly due to Hanner's dad.
* ** Wait, it's an AlternateUniverse? I always figured it was just set TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture.



*** According to in-comic information the only person doing Alternate Universe science is Hanner's dad, hence the only reason we see anything science-y it's in small amounts. Yes they have bionic robot arms, AnthroPC's, lasars and things but only those things he bothered to make because they were awesome. In the most recent storyline we've encountered a space plane. Surely if space planes were commonplace or known very well the reactions everyone has had towards the space plane would've been different.... No. this was their first time seeing a plane that could fly into space. Clearly this means that all the cool science is being done by this one man and everyone just sorta follows.
**** [[FridgeBrilliance This also explains why nearly all the super-science is things like sentient AI, space stations, and robot hamsters]]--it's the kind of thing [[MadScientist Hannelore's dad]] is interested in.

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*** ** According to in-comic information the only person doing Alternate Universe science is Hanner's dad, hence the only reason we see anything science-y it's in small amounts. Yes they have bionic robot arms, AnthroPC's, lasars and things but only those things he bothered to make because they were awesome. In the most recent storyline we've encountered a space plane. Surely if space planes were commonplace or known very well the reactions everyone has had towards the space plane would've been different.... No. this was their first time seeing a plane that could fly into space. Clearly this means that all the cool science is being done by this one man and everyone just sorta follows.
**** ** [[FridgeBrilliance This also explains why nearly all the super-science is things like sentient AI, space stations, and robot hamsters]]--it's the kind of thing [[MadScientist Hannelore's dad]] is interested in.



*** Well remember these are music geeks saying that if it was just regular people then yeah it'd be kind of stupid but it can be assumed that they have heard a decent number of Toto songs that are not Africa

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*** ** Well remember these are music geeks saying that if it was just regular people then yeah it'd be kind of stupid but it can be assumed that they have heard a decent number of Toto songs that are not Africa



*** Marigold has given her WoW name as "MariGoldFarmer" which would seem to support that hypothesis....

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*** ** Marigold has given her WoW name as "MariGoldFarmer" which would seem to support that hypothesis....



*** Sven's family is also of Swedish descent, making his name a lot more logical.
**** That part's even stated outright in the comic: Mom Bianchi is of Swedish descent and stated that since she was pregnant and had to go through childbirth, she got to decide the name, and Dad Bianchi didn't contest it.

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*** ** Sven's family is also of Swedish descent, making his name a lot more logical.
**** ** That part's even stated outright in the comic: Mom Bianchi is of Swedish descent and stated that since she was pregnant and had to go through childbirth, she got to decide the name, and Dad Bianchi didn't contest it.



*** To expand on this, [[TheMaidenNameDebate the wife taking her husband's last name is a standard social convention]], but it's not a legal requirement in any American jurisdiction. Also, in most American jurisdictions, even a single person can go by any name they want, as long as they're not doing it for fraudulant purposes.
*** Different troper here, just wanted to give a personal example. I'm American, and both my parents kept their last names upon marrying, then decided to give me a hyphenated last name (with my mother's surname coming before my father's; it's often the other way around). Then they up and decided to give my little sister my mother's surname only. So yeah, you can pretty much do whatever you want, I'm just so used to it I never even realized other people might be confused by it. Maybe Jacques thought the same way when he named the characters?
*** Considering that Hannelore's father seems to be more than a little scatterbrained or silly at times, it's understandable that he'd have trouble figuring out what was what. Or he just wouldn't care to figure it out when there is science to be done.
*** He flat out confirms that he doesn't know what his own name is and has been confused since the divorce. It is possible that they both double-barreled their names whilst married and upon their divorce, Hannelore's mother (the savvy woman with a huge interest in her public appearance) instantly reverted to her maiden name whilst her father (intelligent but not worldly and not at all interested in what other people think of him) never bothered to update all the forms and so was still officially Ellicot-Chatham. It probably never occured to him to ever change his name (he has cancer fighting nano-bots to build!) and his wife will have organised it the first time (she is the type to get an idea and have the world re-organised over breakfast) and she wouldn't have cared in the end. Hannelore herself, of course, will have kept the name because she doesn't want to upset either parent.

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*** ** To expand on this, [[TheMaidenNameDebate the wife taking her husband's last name is a standard social convention]], but it's not a legal requirement in any American jurisdiction. Also, in most American jurisdictions, even a single person can go by any name they want, as long as they're not doing it for fraudulant purposes.
*** ** Different troper here, just wanted to give a personal example. I'm American, and both my parents kept their last names upon marrying, then decided to give me a hyphenated last name (with my mother's surname coming before my father's; it's often the other way around). Then they up and decided to give my little sister my mother's surname only. So yeah, you can pretty much do whatever you want, I'm just so used to it I never even realized other people might be confused by it. Maybe Jacques thought the same way when he named the characters?
*** ** Considering that Hannelore's father seems to be more than a little scatterbrained or silly at times, it's understandable that he'd have trouble figuring out what was what. Or he just wouldn't care to figure it out when there is science to be done.
*** ** He flat out confirms that he doesn't know what his own name is and has been confused since the divorce. It is possible that they both double-barreled their names whilst married and upon their divorce, Hannelore's mother (the savvy woman with a huge interest in her public appearance) instantly reverted to her maiden name whilst her father (intelligent but not worldly and not at all interested in what other people think of him) never bothered to update all the forms and so was still officially Ellicot-Chatham. It probably never occured to him to ever change his name (he has cancer fighting nano-bots to build!) and his wife will have organised it the first time (she is the type to get an idea and have the world re-organised over breakfast) and she wouldn't have cared in the end. Hannelore herself, of course, will have kept the name because she doesn't want to upset either parent.



*** Or it's part of a ploy to keep Station in line. According to my calculations, based the numbers in strip 2119, Station holds over ''600 million dollars'' of EC-Tech stock. Since Station is linked into everything and could vent the station to space with a thought if he thinks "Meh, my boss sucks", the station staff have every reason to keep it happy. By making sure Station has a financial stake in keeping the station running, EC-Tech has neatly avoided any issues of the robots taking over. If Station tries any funny business, its stock plummets. Of course, what Station actually ''does'' with the money is anyone's guess...
*** Momo getting a 'real' job in order to pay for her own brand new chassis is the first time we see a regular character AI getting money. But it seems like it's pretty normal for AIs to have their own money and financial control over it. Pintsize buys stuff all the time (heirloom knives, various costume props, condoms) and Marten's reaction is usually surprise at the strangeness of the items and not anger that his credit card has been stolen (Pintsize is still producing new props when Marten is unemployed, whilst we don't know if he bought it then or earlier it suggests that he has his own funds). Then, as more AI characters are introduced it appears that NOT having a job and your own money is the strange thing.

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*** ** Or it's part of a ploy to keep Station in line. According to my calculations, based the numbers in strip 2119, Station holds over ''600 million dollars'' of EC-Tech stock. Since Station is linked into everything and could vent the station to space with a thought if he thinks "Meh, my boss sucks", the station staff have every reason to keep it happy. By making sure Station has a financial stake in keeping the station running, EC-Tech has neatly avoided any issues of the robots taking over. If Station tries any funny business, its stock plummets. Of course, what Station actually ''does'' with the money is anyone's guess...
*** ** Momo getting a 'real' job in order to pay for her own brand new chassis is the first time we see a regular character AI getting money. But it seems like it's pretty normal for AIs to have their own money and financial control over it. Pintsize buys stuff all the time (heirloom knives, various costume props, condoms) and Marten's reaction is usually surprise at the strangeness of the items and not anger that his credit card has been stolen (Pintsize is still producing new props when Marten is unemployed, whilst we don't know if he bought it then or earlier it suggests that he has his own funds). Then, as more AI characters are introduced it appears that NOT having a job and your own money is the strange thing.



*** I recall that, but I thought that was a long while ago. I guess in-comic time has not progressed very much since then?

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*** ** I recall that, but I thought that was a long while ago. I guess in-comic time has not progressed very much since then?
4th Aug '15 1:00:40 PM ThetaMarie
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*** Momo getting a 'real' job in order to pay for her own brand new chassis is the first time we see a regular character AI getting money. But it seems like it's pretty normal for AIs to have their own money and financial control over it. Pintsize buys stuff all the time (heirloom knives, various costume props, condoms) and Marten's reaction is usually surprise at the strangeness of the items and not anger that his credit card has been stolen (Pintsize is still producing new props when Marten is unemployed, whilst we don't know if he bought it then or earlier it suggests that he has his own funds). Then, as more AI characters are introduced it appears that NOT having a job and your own money is the strange thing.
4th Aug '15 12:35:03 PM ThetaMarie
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***He flat out confirms that he doesn't know what his own name is and has been confused since the divorce. It is possible that they both double-barreled their names whilst married and upon their divorce, Hannelore's mother (the savvy woman with a huge interest in her public appearance) instantly reverted to her maiden name whilst her father (intelligent but not worldly and not at all interested in what other people think of him) never bothered to update all the forms and so was still officially Ellicot-Chatham. It probably never occured to him to ever change his name (he has cancer fighting nano-bots to build!) and his wife will have organised it the first time (she is the type to get an idea and have the world re-organised over breakfast) and she wouldn't have cared in the end. Hannelore herself, of course, will have kept the name because she doesn't want to upset either parent.
2nd Aug '15 9:39:43 PM M3
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** It could also help that the scheduled days are done differently; like he works at coffee of doom three days a week and then works dish-washing jobs late at night, stuff like that. He works multiple swingshifts.
15th Dec '14 11:53:29 AM Gildarts_Clive
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***Well remember these are music geeks saying that if it was just regular people then yeah it'd be kind of stupid but it can be assumed that they have heard a decent number of Toto songs that are not Africa
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