History Headscratchers / PrideAndPrejudice

18th Nov '17 9:25:42 AM Comrade_Mabby
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* The same with the Bingley family. Louisa got married and became Mrs. Hurst, so now Caroline is Miss Bingley.
21st Oct '17 1:56:15 PM frozen
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* Wickham could very well have sold her to a brothel for a hundred pounds or so once he tired of her. If he had, the Bennets might not have been able to extract her or recover their own respectability.
21st Oct '17 1:50:04 PM frozen
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** It should also be noted that Mrs. Bennet brought a respectable dowry of £5,000 to the marriage. Each daughter has a dowry of £1,000 invested in the five percents, resulting in an income of £50 pa. This comes directly from their mother’s dowry. Had she only borne sons it’s possible that portion would have been available for Mr. Bennet to invest in the estate.


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** More specifically, land produced income in three ways: rents paid by tenant farmers, proceeds from the sale of grain and other foodstuffs grown on the home farm, and either rent or a portion of the proceeds of any other money-making enterprises taking place on the lands (mining, peat or clay harvesting, commercial fishing, industrial mills, etc.). This would be supervised by the landowner’s steward, whose job entailed not just land management but also handling any petty legal matters relating to the estate. It was in fact common for stewards of estates as vast as Pemberly to have attended university for formal legal training, and it was equally common for a master of such an estate to send his steward’s eldest son to university so that he could replace his father in the due course of events, as old Mr. Darcy did with George Wickham.
21st Oct '17 12:49:43 PM frozen
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**** This is not true; as I wrote below, he was Mr. Bennet’s nearest ''male-line'' male relative. He could be a very distant cousin.
21st Oct '17 12:48:23 PM frozen
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** The problem is the error you’re all making by calling Collins Mr. Bennet’s closest “male” relative. Collins is his closest ''male-line'' male relative; in other words, they both descend from the same man through a strictly male line. He might very well be a fifth or sixth cousin. (As to why his name is “Collins” and not “Bennet”: surnames weren’t nearly as fixed in Stuart and Georgian England as they are now. Austen’s own brother changed his surname in order to inherit an estate from a wealthy childless couple.)
28th Jan '17 9:16:41 AM lihtox
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* I wouldn't be surprised if Lydia found out he was leaving and begged him to take her with him, and he was too overcome by lust to say no. It could be that he never actually said anything about "marriage" (he's pretty careful about his choice in words), and Lydia talked herself into believing that they were going to Scotland.
28th Jan '17 9:07:22 AM lihtox
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** Social levels need to be considered here. Mrs. Bennet is a commoner who married a gentleman, and she seems to get along just fine with people of her own rank (Mrs. Phillips, for instance, or the friends she talks to at the parties). But she married a gentleman, and in most of the book she is dealing with people in higher social circles, and she's never bothered/managed to learn to adapt. (Certainly her husband hasn't bothered to teach her anything, as he's lazy and is probably amused by the way she upsets people.) As far as being illiberal, she probably thinks "I'm a gentleman's wife, surely we have all the money we need!" Think how many people win the lottery and then end up ruined because they get carried away.
23rd Nov '16 2:09:20 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Darcy might not have thought she could actually hear him or that she was listening. She was "near enough" to hear him, but that doesn't necessarily mean she was right next to him, and they ''were'' at a dance, which would probably be quite noisy in and of itself. If he did intend to insult her and knew she was listening, that works as well; remember, Darcy's legitimately quite big-headed until Elizabeth shoots him down after his first proposal. He might have simply assumed that she found him and his bags of money awesome enough to overlook his insult when they first met.

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* Darcy might not have thought she could actually hear him or that she was listening. She was "near enough" to hear him, but that doesn't necessarily mean she was right next to him, and they ''were'' at a dance, which would probably be quite noisy in and of itself. If he did intend to insult her and knew she was listening, listening (which, if nothing else, is perhaps a bit unlikely given what a premium he's shown to place on proper social conduct), that works as well; remember, Darcy's legitimately quite big-headed until Elizabeth shoots him down after his first proposal. He might have simply assumed that she found him and his bags of money awesome enough to overlook his insult when they first met.met, or that she simply didn't remember it.
11th Nov '16 4:19:52 PM CharlesTheBold
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* Piketty's book on Capital explains some of this ( He uses Jane Austen and Honore de Balzac to illustrate how money worked in the past) The British government needed money to fight wars (in this era, against Napoleon) so they offered high interest rates to people who kept their money in the Bank of England, where the government could use it. Governments of the time were not allow to run deficits and were limited how much they could tax. From Darcy's point of view, the interest was guaranteed income of so-and-so per year.
11th Nov '16 3:52:25 PM CharlesTheBold
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** The whole point of the "entailment" problem is that Mr. Bennett could NOT name the heir of the estate -- it would AUTOMATICALLY go to Collins as the nearest male relative. (Incidentally, the reason Americans are so confused about entailments is that Thomas Jefferson hated the idea and banned entailments in US law)

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** The whole point of the "entailment" problem is that Mr. Bennett could NOT name the heir of the estate -- it would AUTOMATICALLY go to Collins as the nearest male relative. (Incidentally, the reason Americans are so confused about unfamiliar with entailments is that Thomas Jefferson hated the idea and banned entailments in US law) law -- "The Earth belongs to the present generation")
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