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14th Jun '16 9:45:28 AM Forenperser
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*** Even if it doesn't mention it explicitly, it clearly shows it on several occasions (Double kick on Geodude Onix, Bubble on Charmander etc)
7th Jun '16 2:19:59 AM SJMistery
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*** Actually, on Yellow, Nidoran's moveset was shuffled around precisely to let him learn Double Kick early. Game Freak realized that if the rock-ground types had already a massive advantage to players that choose Charmander, on Yellow it would be worse, as you get stuck with Pikachu, thus they gave Double Kick to Nidoran at level 12 from those games onwards to give players a chance against the electric-immune rock-ground types of Brock's Gym. It makes sense for Nidoran to have low kick that early if you remember that. On Rhyhorn, it's implied those pokemon are at much higher level than 45, and they are NOT the pokemon he uses normally as the gym leader, with Horn Drill hitting without fail on something as slow as Rhydon, so regardless of wether we count the recent OHKO mechanics or the old ones, this means a very tough opponent, plus the super-effective Double Kick from Jolteon barely doing damage, and the boast that Giovanni sends out before the start of the battle.
22nd May '16 2:17:46 PM dotchan
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* Compared to Ash, Red has an even less excuse to not know anything about Pokemon. He is a ten year old kid ''obsessed'' with them. He watches Pokemon matches on a regular basis. His neighbor, Professor Oak, gives frequent talks about Pokemon. But Red doesn't even know anything about Type advantage!
23rd Feb '16 11:37:30 PM OrangenChan
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* Why did it take Red so long to figure out that Mew was out there? He quoted that "Mew gave birth - we gave the newborn mewtwo".

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* Why did it take Red so long to figure out that Mew was out there? He quoted that "Mew gave birth - we gave the newborn mewtwo".mewtwo".
** If he read the journals, which the quote implies that he did, then Red would likely know that the scientists found Mew way out in a remote area in South America. If that's still true in Origins, he probably just assumed he'd never run into it. That, or... Red possibly didn't read that part, or he just forgot.
24th Jan '16 4:09:54 PM ReyKenobi
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** The special tends to ignore levels in terms of when certain mons learn their moves. For instance, Nidoran shouldn't be able to learn double-kick until 46 in the original games, yet knew it in the battle against Onix. It's further implied Red's pokemon are vastly low leveled compared to Charizard.

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** The special tends to ignore levels in terms of when certain mons learn their moves. For instance, Nidoran shouldn't be able to learn double-kick until 46 in the original games, yet knew it in the battle against Onix. It's further implied Red's pokemon are vastly low leveled compared to Charizard.Charizard.
* Why did it take Red so long to figure out that Mew was out there? He quoted that "Mew gave birth - we gave the newborn mewtwo".
28th May '15 1:21:30 AM Bourne~Endeavor
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*** Seems more like Jolteon was engulfed by the Thunderbolt and hit everywhere, not just the eyes.

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*** Seems more like Jolteon was engulfed by the Thunderbolt and hit everywhere, not just the eyes.eyes.
** The special tends to ignore levels in terms of when certain mons learn their moves. For instance, Nidoran shouldn't be able to learn double-kick until 46 in the original games, yet knew it in the battle against Onix. It's further implied Red's pokemon are vastly low leveled compared to Charizard.
24th Apr '15 7:26:31 AM jordanthejq12
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** Not to mention Rhydon has 45 SpA, Jolteon has 95 SpD, and Electric resists itself. A resisted, non-STAB hit at full health from a Pokemon with virtually no SpA stat. Okay then.

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** Not to mention Rhydon has 45 SpA, Special Attack, Jolteon has 95 SpD, Special Defense, and Electric resists itself. A resisted, non-STAB hit at full health from a Pokemon with virtually no SpA Special Attack stat. Okay then.
24th Apr '15 7:25:49 AM jordanthejq12
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** Not to mention Rhydon has 45 SpA, Jolteon has 95 SpD, and Electric resists itself. A resisted, non-STAB hit at full health from a Pokemon with virtually no SpA stat. Okay then.
6th Jul '14 11:45:43 PM Shadao
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** It's quite justified by ''where'' Jolteon was hit: [[EyeScream the eyes]]. Poor Pokemon had probably fainted for the sheer pain...

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** It's quite justified by ''where'' Jolteon was hit: [[EyeScream the eyes]]. Poor Pokemon had probably fainted for the sheer pain...pain...
*** Seems more like Jolteon was engulfed by the Thunderbolt and hit everywhere, not just the eyes.
5th Jul '14 7:41:05 AM EDP
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* How is Giovanni's Rhyhorn able to OHKO Jolteon with Thunderbolt? Considering Jolteon knows Double Kick, that puts its level at 42 at the very least. Ignoring Volt Absorb or assuming it had Quick Feet explains why it got damaged at all, but Giovanni's Rhyhorn in the original games is level 45. At that level difference, it is absolutely impossible for Rhyhorn to OHKO Jolteon with Thunderbolt, or any Special attack for that matter. I get that they want to make Giovanni look strong, but that's just too absurd to be seen as anything other than wielding the might powers of plot.

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* How is Giovanni's Rhyhorn able to OHKO Jolteon with Thunderbolt? Considering Jolteon knows Double Kick, that puts its level at 42 at the very least. Ignoring Volt Absorb or assuming it had Quick Feet explains why it got damaged at all, but Giovanni's Rhyhorn in the original games is level 45. At that level difference, it is absolutely impossible for Rhyhorn to OHKO Jolteon with Thunderbolt, or any Special attack for that matter. I get that they want to make Giovanni look strong, but that's just too absurd to be seen as anything other than wielding the might powers of plot.plot.
** It's quite justified by ''where'' Jolteon was hit: [[EyeScream the eyes]]. Poor Pokemon had probably fainted for the sheer pain...
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