History Headscratchers / PokemonBlack2AndWhite2

5th Jul '17 3:27:59 AM Kindle4Light
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-->'''Zinzolin''': Why can't you understand? There are other Purrloin. Why are you so fixated on this one?
-->'''Hugh''': [[spoiler:That's the ONLY Purrloin in the world that my late grandpa caught for my little sister!]]
*** OP: Oh...well, I hadn't gotten that far quite yet (only on my sixth badge now, the trainers at the Opelucid gym are too tough)...

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-->'''Zinzolin''': --->'''Zinzolin''': Why can't you understand? There are other Purrloin. Why are you so fixated on this one?
-->'''Hugh''': --->'''Hugh''': [[spoiler:That's the ONLY Purrloin in the world that my late grandpa caught for my little sister!]]
*** ** OP: Oh...well, I hadn't gotten that far quite yet (only on my sixth badge now, the trainers at the Opelucid gym are too tough)...



*** Not to mention both Alder and N have a Vanilluxe, and both Alder and Ghetsis have a Bouffalant; and in BW2 Alder trades 4 of his team for something to represent his Elite Four members in the PWT, using Chandelure and Conkeldurr, both of which are signatures. Plus, Grimsley and Clay both have members of the Sandile family in their team. I just think it's dumb to replace an amazing Water/Ghost wall with a simple Drifblim that only has Aftermath as something different than Jellicent.

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*** Not to mention both Alder and N have a Vanilluxe, and both Alder and Ghetsis have a Bouffalant; and in BW2 [=B2W2=] Alder trades 4 of his team for something to represent his Elite Four members in the PWT, using Chandelure and Conkeldurr, both of which are signatures. Plus, Grimsley and Clay both have members of the Sandile family in their team. I just think it's dumb to replace an amazing Water/Ghost wall with a simple Drifblim that only has Aftermath as something different than Jellicent.
24th Dec '16 11:49:10 AM Xtifr
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*** A Grunt used Sleep Powder directly on the player in XD, and if I remember correctly, the BigBad of XD also made physical threats against the player at the end of the game after his defeat, but nobody else has ever directly attempted [[spoiler: murder]]. (although it's indicated that several sailors DID die when Cipher had XD001/Shadow Lugia pick the SS Libra up out of the water. However, they weren't specifically trying to kill anyone, it was just collateral damage.) Moreover, they don't need to worry. While the ''Pokemon'' franchise has never gone there, the E label has tons of games with violence on that level in it. ESRB ratings do have a little bit of wiggle room on them: for instance, a quick scan of some games I own confirm the loaded with ParentalBonus humor, ''BowsersInsideStory'', is only an E, while even games with a lot of focus on conflict and death, like ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' and ''StarFox'' 3DS have gotten E10s. Even the ''extremely'' bleak ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'' only got an E10. One scene probably won't be enough to raise the rating from an E, especially in light of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series, as well as the player being able to [[spoiler: die in timed missions in two of the ''Ranger'' games.]]

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*** A Grunt used Sleep Powder directly on the player in XD, and if I remember correctly, the BigBad of XD also made physical threats against the player at the end of the game after his defeat, but nobody else has ever directly attempted [[spoiler: murder]]. (although it's indicated that several sailors DID die when Cipher had XD001/Shadow Lugia pick the SS Libra up out of the water. However, they weren't specifically trying to kill anyone, it was just collateral damage.) Moreover, they don't need to worry. While the ''Pokemon'' franchise has never gone there, the E label has tons of games with violence on that level in it. ESRB ratings do have a little bit of wiggle room on them: for instance, a quick scan of some games I own confirm the loaded with ParentalBonus humor, ''BowsersInsideStory'', ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory'', is only an E, while even games with a lot of focus on conflict and death, like ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' and ''StarFox'' 3DS have gotten E10s. Even the ''extremely'' bleak ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'' only got an E10. One scene probably won't be enough to raise the rating from an E, especially in light of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series, as well as the player being able to [[spoiler: die in timed missions in two of the ''Ranger'' games.]]
10th Nov '16 8:52:12 AM GlaceonMage
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* The map descriptions and appearance of Reversal Mountain differ between games, which is fine, but the map descriptions seem to be backwards. In ''Black 2'', the mountain is full of water, yet the map says it's had several recent eruptions. In ''White 2'', the mountain is full of lava, yet the map says there hasn't been an eruption in ages. Wouldn't being full of lava point to more activity and no lava point to less, not vice versa? (Admittedly, I'm no geologist so don't take my assumption as gospel--it just seems logical.)

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* The map descriptions and appearance of Reversal Mountain differ between games, which is fine, but the map descriptions seem to be backwards. In ''Black 2'', the mountain is full of water, yet the map says it's had several recent eruptions. In ''White 2'', the mountain is full of lava, yet the map says there hasn't been an eruption in ages. Wouldn't being full of lava point to more activity and no lava point to less, not vice versa? (Admittedly, I'm no geologist so don't take my assumption as gospel--it just seems logical.))
**''Reversal'' Mountain. ''Reversed'' descriptions. It's a pun.
28th Oct '16 2:23:28 PM nombretomado
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*** A Grunt used Sleep Powder directly on the player in XD, and if I remember correctly, the BigBad of XD also made physical threats against the player at the end of the game after his defeat, but nobody else has ever directly attempted [[spoiler: murder]]. (although it's indicated that several sailors DID die when Cipher had XD001/Shadow Lugia pick the SS Libra up out of the water. However, they weren't specifically trying to kill anyone, it was just collateral damage.) Moreover, they don't need to worry. While the ''Pokemon'' franchise has never gone there, the E label has tons of games with violence on that level in it. ESRB ratings do have a little bit of wiggle room on them: for instance, a quick scan of some games I own confirm the loaded with ParentalBonus humor, ''BowsersInsideStory'', is only an E, while even games with a lot of focus on conflict and death, like ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'' and ''StarFox'' 3DS have gotten E10s. Even the ''extremely'' bleak ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'' only got an E10. One scene probably won't be enough to raise the rating from an E, especially in light of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series, as well as the player being able to [[spoiler: die in timed missions in two of the ''Ranger'' games.]]

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*** A Grunt used Sleep Powder directly on the player in XD, and if I remember correctly, the BigBad of XD also made physical threats against the player at the end of the game after his defeat, but nobody else has ever directly attempted [[spoiler: murder]]. (although it's indicated that several sailors DID die when Cipher had XD001/Shadow Lugia pick the SS Libra up out of the water. However, they weren't specifically trying to kill anyone, it was just collateral damage.) Moreover, they don't need to worry. While the ''Pokemon'' franchise has never gone there, the E label has tons of games with violence on that level in it. ESRB ratings do have a little bit of wiggle room on them: for instance, a quick scan of some games I own confirm the loaded with ParentalBonus humor, ''BowsersInsideStory'', is only an E, while even games with a lot of focus on conflict and death, like ''GoldenSunDarkDawn'' ''VideoGame/GoldenSunDarkDawn'' and ''StarFox'' 3DS have gotten E10s. Even the ''extremely'' bleak ''[[VideoGame/NintendoWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'' only got an E10. One scene probably won't be enough to raise the rating from an E, especially in light of the ''Mystery Dungeon'' series, as well as the player being able to [[spoiler: die in timed missions in two of the ''Ranger'' games.]]
7th Jul '16 8:59:50 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** They were probably just using the old artwork for [[TheyJustDidntCare another reason]].



** Considering the large amount of new art for the game, it was probably just a cost and time cutting measure. That said, Red recieves a brand new overworld sprite despite everyone else using their Gen IV ones. It shows too because Red is about a head taller (which makes sense since these games [[FridgeBrilliance have to be at least 5 years after HGSS]]). The Gen III RSE characters get a complete revamp with brand new battle and overworld sprites, though they were not redesigned like the Gen I & II characters were. It seems less like a TheyJustDidntCare and more of a "Let's focus on the stuff that's more vital to the game" such as all the new art assets seen everywhere else. There's alot of high quality art done by sugimori through out the game. Deadlines are a bitch. That's all.

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** Considering the large amount of new art for the game, it was probably just a cost and time cutting measure. That said, Red recieves a brand new overworld sprite despite everyone else using their Gen IV ones. It shows too because Red is about a head taller (which makes sense since these games [[FridgeBrilliance have to be at least 5 years after HGSS]]). The Gen III RSE characters get a complete revamp with brand new battle and overworld sprites, though they were not redesigned like the Gen I & II characters were. It seems less like a TheyJustDidntCare and more of a "Let's focus on the stuff that's more vital to the game" such as all the new art assets seen everywhere else. There's alot of high quality art done by sugimori through out the game. Deadlines are a bitch. That's all.
4th Jul '16 9:20:14 AM treehugger0369
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** Ghetsis only had one Gene Splicer. Can't "absofuse" both of them with only one Splicer.

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** Ghetsis only had one Gene DNA Splicer. Can't "absofuse" both of them with only one Splicer.Splicer.
** There's also the fact that the BW protagonist owns the other dragon and no-one has any idea where they are. N at least knew to show up because he could understand his dragon telling him Kyurem was in trouble--presumably the old protagonist lacks this ability(on top of there being no guarantee of them having the dragon on their team--using it against N is completely optional, after all) and therefore would have no reason to think to fly to where Kyurem was waiting like N did. On top of needing another DNA Splicer, he'd also need the other dragon there which is impossible.
4th Jul '16 9:13:07 AM treehugger0369
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** Ghetsis only had one Gene Splicer. Can't "absofuse" both of them with only one Splicer.

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** Ghetsis only had one Gene Splicer. Can't "absofuse" both of them with only one Splicer.Splicer.
* The map descriptions and appearance of Reversal Mountain differ between games, which is fine, but the map descriptions seem to be backwards. In ''Black 2'', the mountain is full of water, yet the map says it's had several recent eruptions. In ''White 2'', the mountain is full of lava, yet the map says there hasn't been an eruption in ages. Wouldn't being full of lava point to more activity and no lava point to less, not vice versa? (Admittedly, I'm no geologist so don't take my assumption as gospel--it just seems logical.)
1st Jul '16 6:02:52 AM longWriter
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* Does Cheren have a personal vendetta against [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes Pansear]] or something? I grinded for Pansage, Pansear and Panpour in the Pinwheel Forest while I had Cheren, and he was nice enough to take out the Audino for Pansage and Panpour. I think I only got the Pansear because I found two of them at once: [[StopHelpingMe he kept killing the Pansear when the Audino/Pansear combination showed up...]]

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* Does Cheren have a personal vendetta against [[WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes Pansear]] or something? I grinded for Pansage, Pansear and Panpour in the Pinwheel Forest while I had Cheren, and he was nice enough to take out the Audino for Pansage and Panpour. I think I only got the Pansear because I found two of them at once: [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper he kept killing the Pansear when the Audino/Pansear combination showed up...]]
17th Feb '16 8:42:18 PM OrangenChan
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** Additionally, it's implied that the "new" cities in southwest Unova were really always there (Hugh has lived in Aspertia for at least five years, Alder lives in Flocessy and there's a Memory Link there, Brycen's always worked for Pokéstar Studios, etc.). We just didn't get to go there in the original [=BW=] because Hilbert/Hilda simply never caught a boat to that area. (A similar thing could be said for the Hidden Grottoes, now that I think about it: Hilbert/Hilda simply never noticed them.)


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** If it ''did'' block the release mechanism, that would have been ''[[FridgeLogic incredibly]]'' [[VillainBall stupid]] of him. Sure, it would keep the player from sending out Pokémon against him, but Ghetsis wouldn't be able to send out his own Pokémon, either. The cane kinda [[AWizardDidIt runs on magic]] as its only "sensible" explanation, anyway, so Ghetsis probably intentionally found some way to keep ''capturing'' from working without blocking ''releasing'', too.
30th Jan '16 7:17:17 PM Siggu
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** EV training, most likely. That, and the fact storyline Pokemon are never properly EV trained. Until X and Y's new features, that is.



** Until Undella Town became connected with Reversal Mountain, Lentimas Town was ''completely isolated'' from the rest of Unova by foot, and likely not a point of interest for trainers (As long as it already existed. I think two years is enough time for a town like Lentimas to be developed). Similarly, Humilau City with the Marine Tube and the Giant Chasm, though this one has a better excuse when you consider how comparatively rudimentary its infrastructure is towards other cities - it could be a touristic resort that was recently repurposed. Now, about the landslide on Route 10, I guess there's nothing to explain - it just happened. It must have not happened recently due to the way the new Victory Road entrance looks like, and given that N's Castle is buried underground, maybe... maybe ''that'' was the cause?



*** That's the explanation he gives, in a rather snobby and dismissive manner. It's impossible for the player to say "look. My pokemon are either fainted or low on health, so would you kindly allow me to heal up before this battle?" The player is ''forced'' to take any challenge no matter the situation, and it's explicitly stated in every game I've played (that is all gen I-V games) that eye contact between trainers -> battle. I'm wondering why the player allows this douche to act in that manner, when the rules are eye contact -> battle.
**** Because his main passion is music, not battling :^)

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*** ** That's the explanation he gives, in a rather snobby and dismissive manner. It's impossible for the player to say "look. My pokemon are either fainted or low on health, so would you kindly allow me to heal up before this battle?" The player is ''forced'' to take any challenge no matter the situation, and it's explicitly stated in every game I've played (that is all gen I-V games) that eye contact between trainers -> battle. I'm wondering why the player allows this douche to act in that manner, when the rules are eye contact -> battle.
**** ** Because his main passion is music, not battling :^)
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