History Headscratchers / PhoenixWrightAceAttorney

17th Aug '17 2:35:12 AM KINGBARBIE52
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*** That said, law enforcement had been having an exceptionally difficult time trying to capture de Killer, and didn't seem to have much more luck even after Edgeworth met him face-to-face in Prosecutor's Path. It seems all [[spoiler: Engarde]] really did was sign his own death warrant due to his lack of trust and faith.
31st Jul '17 1:01:31 PM NNinja
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** Because even if Mia took the case for revenge she was still a defence attorney and her primary job was to make sure that Phoenix won't be found guilty. Lightning would've won her case had it happened.


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** FridgeBrilliance: Because it was dark Dahlia could only see the visor, so that's where she struck.
19th Jun '17 4:22:47 PM NNinja
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** Actually it's been implied that Phoenix ''wants'' to find the culprit, rather than ''has'' to. In 3-2 when he allmost won, Godot pointed out that he still hasn't proven thad Luke is the killer, and Pheonix said something along the lines "even if i prove Ron's innocence, Luke will go free". In 2-4 he also stated that finding the killer would be the quickest way to win the trial if Engarde is innocent. Meaning it's not so much nessecity as far as the story goes but rather Phoenix need for justice to be done.
17th Jun '17 5:01:55 AM NNinja
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*** Because Tiger IS rash. He's TheAsshole, who works by intimidating everyone around him, and the only reason he was ever nice to anyone was because said anyone was MafiaPrincess with TheDreaded grandfather who would've killed him if he wasn't. When Tiger met Elg he had cyanide ready, that means he was ready to kill him from the start. And you keep asking why wouldn't someone like that ''ask nicely'' when such thing would be insanely out of character for him. Tiger was confident that he'd get away with the murder and he almost did. If Dick didn't go to Phoenix he would have. Why ''would'' he search for other options? Especially one that would require more niceness than he's capable of towards someone who isn't scarier than him?
16th Jun '17 11:55:53 AM nowaymanguy
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*** You keep avoiding the point, which is that Tigre had other options open to him other then "murder Elg". This isn't about compassion or niceness. Even they were likely to even work or not, it was stupidly rash of Tigre to jump straight to murder instead of at least trying something else.
16th Jun '17 8:04:30 AM NNinja
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*** How big chance? The reason Tiger wanted the virus was because it was worth far more than what Elg owed him. From selfish standpoint Elg has no reason to give him the virus once he has the money. If he keeps the virus he keeps his hands clean and can potentailly sell it himself to gain far more than he would've if he handed it over. From selfless standpoint the virus is really dangerous and while Elg was desperate enough to make it as a payup, he might not ba ''happy'' about virus getting out. And if Tiger needs money because of what was his own damn fault why should Elg care? Tiger owning money to Bruto was Tiger's problem, Elg isn't charity. And why would even Elg assume that Tiger is telling the truth and not just making bulshit up to get the virus? And finally taking all of the above into account why would Tiger think Elg would listen, even if he asked nicely?
15th Jun '17 6:53:46 PM nowaymanguy
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*** Lack of compassion and apathy over people's lives is one thing, but that doesn't mean you'd be willing to murder someone and risk going to jail for it if you can help it. They were in a public place, where murdering someone is flat out dangerous to do. Yes the restaurant was empty besides those two at the time, but customers couldn't waltzed in at any minute. Plus covering up the murder and having it be a successful as it was relied on a lot of luck on Tigre's part. There happened to only be one waitress, who happened to faint, and later on only one customer happened to come into the restaurant who happened to be a senile old man, who happened to have a waitress fetish. There's no way Tigre could've realistically seen the cover up going as well as it did, and there's no reason for him to risk so much when he could've just spoken seven words and went "I want the CD as payment instead". Elg could've said no, sure, but there was a big chance he'd say yes, which could've saved Tigre a lot of luck-based effort on a halve-arsed cover-up.

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*** Lack of compassion and apathy over people's lives is one thing, but that doesn't mean you'd be willing to murder someone and risk going to jail for it if you can help it. They were in a public place, where murdering someone is flat out dangerous to do. Yes the restaurant was empty besides those two at the time, but customers couldn't could've waltzed in at any minute. Plus covering up the murder and having it be a successful as it was relied on a lot of luck on Tigre's part. There happened to only be one waitress, who happened to faint, and later on only one customer happened to come into the restaurant who happened to be a senile old man, who happened to have a waitress fetish. There's no way Tigre could've realistically seen the cover up going as well as it did, and there's no reason for him to risk so much when he could've just spoken seven words and went "I want the CD as payment instead". Elg could've said no, sure, but there was a big chance he'd say yes, which could've saved Tigre a lot of luck-based effort on a halve-arsed cover-up.
15th Jun '17 2:35:06 PM nowaymanguy
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**** Lack of compassion and apathy over people's lives is one thing, but that doesn't mean you'd be willing to murder someone and risk going to jail for it if you can help it. They were in a public place, where murdering someone is flat out dangerous to do. Yes the restaurant was empty besides those two at the time, but customers couldn't waltzed in at any minute. Plus covering up the murder and having it be a successful as it was relied on a lot of luck on Tigre's part. There happened to only be one waitress, who happened to faint, and later on only one customer happened to come into the restaurant who happened to be a senile old man, who happened to have a waitress fetish. There's no way Tigre could've realistically seen the cover up going as well as it did, and there's no reason for him to risk so much when he could've just spoken seven words and went "I want the CD as payment instead". Elg could've said no, sure, but there was a big chance he'd say yes, which could've saved Tigre a lot of luck-based effort on a halve-arsed cover-up.
15th Jun '17 12:03:01 PM NNinja
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*** And what makes you think he gives a crap whether Elg lives or dies? Don't forget, Tiger didn't just grab whatever he could get a hold of, and murdered Elg in anger. He used cyanide, which means he must've brought it with him. Whcih means he was at least prepared to kill Elg from the start. There is exacly one character Tiger is nice towards: Viola. And only because he didn't want to get on her grandpa's bad side. Maybe trying to convince Elg to give him the virus would've been possible if Elg listened, but it would certainly require more compassion than Tiger is capable of.
12th Jun '17 12:05:23 PM nowaymanguy
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*** To save himself from needing to murder a guy, yes. Its not about "asking nicely", it's about other options that were there for Tigre besides "well he's won the lottery, I've gotta murder him now". Elg suddenly winning the lottery doesn't mean Tigre couldn't have gotten the CD if he had the common sense to just ask for it to be the payment, instead of the lottery money.


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*** I'm pretty sure it would've come up in conversation at some point. Phoenix knows Gumshoe has a thing for Maggey, so I can't imagine he wouldn't have brought it up. Even still, if she did think that Phoenix did it himself, Maggey should have had the common sense, especially as a former policewoman, to know that Gumshoe was just doing his job and didn't exactly have much choice. The way she got upset at Gumshoe honestly came across as extremely selfish to me.
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