History Headscratchers / OnceUponATime

8th Dec '16 9:22:02 PM AmeyaI
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** Either they are two different characters(Like the Ursulas) or [[spoiler: the backstory shown in wonderland happened a long time ago, since he killed the sultan-to-be and kidnapped the sultan, is probable another family rose to power, as it is never indicated that Jafar actually became sultan of Agrabah. Another possibility is that the Sultan's wife remarried(she was never mentioned) and that's Jasmine father]]
6th Dec '16 2:49:18 AM Cornholio4
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* is he supposed to be the same one from OnceUponATimeInWonderland? Doesn't seem to add up since the Sultan here seems different [[spoiler:from the one that was his father and does this mean he and Jasmine are half-siblings? plus if he shows up in present day he would have to be a genie so I don't know.]]
5th Dec '16 12:50:17 AM Ingonyama
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** As of Season 6, it's not hard to believe a woman who [[spoiler:would give up love for power and become a wicked Black Fairy who steals children would either not see Malcolm's flaws as flaws, or just wouldn't care one way or the other about the kind of man she was leaving Rumple with]]. Although since she mentioned love being involved at all, it can probably be assumed she did love him at some point, and he may not have been the selfish jerk he became later.
26th Oct '16 9:07:10 AM Chiropteru
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* If Hercules' excuse for why he couldn't beat Cerberus the first time was that its three heads were too hard to keep track of...then how on earth did he defeat the Lernean Hydra, his ''second'' task, a monster which started off with NINE heads and, assuming things worked the same as in the original myth, grew more as the fight progressed? Three heads that don't even multiply when they're cut off seems like it would be a step ''down'' in difficulty.
23rd Oct '16 12:22:06 PM Lullaby22
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** First, they'd just done something evil (kidnapping Lily and stranding her in another world) in order to remove Emma's potential for evil. If the mere possibility of being evil means you can't get an answer from the tree, then presumably doing an actual evil deed disqualifies you too. Second, they probably felt too guilty to even try and benefit from what they'd done.
* Related question: How does anyone get an answer from the Tree of Wisdom if it denies answers based on the potential for evil? It's a running theme of the show that anyone, no matter how good they are, can potentially become evil.
23rd Oct '16 12:13:21 PM Lullaby22
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23rd Oct '16 12:07:13 PM Lullaby22
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* Season 1 Regina suffered from a crippling case of EvilCannotComprehendGood, so she might not have realized why Snow would find the experience enjoyable. Remember, this is the woman who was convinced that Snow was a BitchInSheepsClothing who got Daniel killed on purpose so that she could force them to be family. She probably figured that being forced to teach and take care of children would be akin to torture.

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* ** Season 1 Regina suffered from a crippling case of EvilCannotComprehendGood, so she might not have realized why Snow would find the experience enjoyable. Remember, this is the woman who was convinced that Snow was a BitchInSheepsClothing who got Daniel killed on purpose so that she could force them to be family. She probably figured that being forced to teach and take care of children would be akin to torture.torture, not to mention being separated from her soul mate for all eternity. Basically, Regina had a very flawed idea of what would actually make Snow suffer.
23rd Oct '16 12:05:17 PM Lullaby22
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* Season 1 Regina suffered from a crippling case of EvilCannotComprehendGood, so she might not have realized why Snow would find the experience enjoyable. Remember, this is the woman who was convinced that Snow was a BitchInSheepsClothing who got Daniel killed on purpose so that she could force them to be family. She probably figured that being forced to teach and take care of children would be akin to torture.
18th Oct '16 9:10:08 PM cillianflood
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* So Snow enjoyed her time teaching as Mary Margret during the first curse. That's not altogether surprising given her character. But...doesn't that go against the whole point of the curse? Regina wanted to win over snow specifically. She wanted her enemy miserable and her happy. Yet what the curse ended up doing for Snow is giving her a job she actually liked and made her somewhat wistful for a boyfriend. Not the most monstrous fate in the world. The whole not being with Charming isn't even even that big of an issue since he was in a coma for like 99% of the curse's run. A lot of other people had it much worse (Mad Hatter and Belle come to mind). I know Regina probably didn't have complete control over how the curse worked but her aim could have been a bit better. Snow practically got off scot free while everyone else suffered from it.
8th Oct '16 10:46:31 PM NOYB
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** Ultimately I don't the writers have actually thought about this as much as we have. I can accept within the universe there are fictional realms that are very similar to the Real World but are not. For example Frankenstein's world, however in that case while everything is vaguely German, they made the effort to show that it is not in fact Germany (complete with fictional german sounding place names). However Alice's "fictional world" not only explicitly has a London, England but also has a Mozart in it's history. It is going from being a multiverse including the Real World and several fictional realms, to just being a full blown alternate reality Earth, it just doesn't really jive with what has previously been shown. If there are going to be alternate Earths, then why have Camelot and Agrabah exist in the same realm as the Enchanted Forest and not in separate Medieval England and Medieval Arabia worlds.

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** Ultimately I don't the writers have actually thought about this as much as we have. I can accept within the universe there are fictional realms that are very similar to the Real World but are not. For example Frankenstein's world, however in that case while everything is vaguely German, they made the effort to show that it is not in fact Germany (complete with fictional german sounding place names). However Alice's "fictional world" not only explicitly has a London, England but also has a Mozart in it's its history. It is going from being a multiverse including the Real World and several fictional realms, to just being a full blown alternate reality Earth, it just doesn't really jive with what has previously been shown. If there are going to be alternate Earths, then why have Camelot and Agrabah exist in the same realm as the Enchanted Forest and not in separate Medieval England and Medieval Arabia worlds.


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** Also, the showrunners have confirmed on Twitter that the White Rabbit can only transport between places with magic, and that Fictional Victorian England has magic even if the people there don't believe in it. So he couldn't have brought Rumple to the Land Without Magic. He could only open a portal in Storybrooke post Season 1 finale.
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