History Headscratchers / Nightwish

8th Feb '15 9:28:03 PM spirasen
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** Listen to the Live version of ''The End of an Era''. It's as much of a masterpiece and has a better ending.

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** Listen to the Live version of ''The End ''End of an Era''. It's as much of a masterpiece and has a better ending.
8th Feb '15 9:16:16 PM spirasen
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* Why the hell did they just FadeOut at the end of Ghost Love Score? The rest of the song is a masterpiece; it deserves a better ending than that.
** Listen to the Live version of End of an Era. It's as much of a masterpiece and has a better ending.

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* Why the hell did they just FadeOut at the end of Ghost "Ghost Love Score? Score"? The rest of the song is a masterpiece; it deserves a better ending than that.
** Listen to the Live version of ''The End of an Era.Era''. It's as much of a masterpiece and has a better ending.



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3rd May '14 1:31:51 AM peccantis
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* Tarja Turunen is not an opera singer. To be an opera singer, you actually have to sing in opera, not power metal bands. She has said in numerous interviews that she is not an opera singer: she is a classically-trained singer. So why do so many Nightwish fans not seem to know what an opera singer is?
** Because FanDumb. A lot of people don't know there's a difference between an operatic ''sound'' and actual ''opera'', and will confuse classically-trained singers with actual opera singers. It doesn't help that the band itself was often billed as operatic power-metal, by outsiders if not by themselves.
* Why is the fandom suddenly whining that they want Tarja back now that Anette's left? She's gone, she's got her own career, but they can't seem to accept it. For another thing - why would Tuomas ''ever'' think it's a good idea to have two replacement singers come in for Anette (and have to read the lyrics off pieces of paper) while she was ill - without her knowledge?
** FanDumb. It's sad how many things in the Nightwish fandom can be answered with that.
** As for the second part: apparently, a stage hand did actually go on stage before the show to tell the audience Anette was in hospital and asked if they wanted a refund or to continue the show with the two female vocalists who were touring with the other band on the bill (Kamelot). The audience went for the latter option. Still no excuse for not informing Anette, though.
** Not just a stage hand, fucking Tuomas Holopainen himself.
26th Mar '14 3:51:34 AM Levi
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** Not just a stage hand, fucking Tuomas Holopainen himself.
16th Aug '13 8:11:27 AM spacemarine47
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** As for the second part: apparently, a stage hand did actually go on stage before the show to tell the audience Anette was in hospital and asked if they wanted a refund or to continue the show with the two female vocalists who were touring with the other band on the bill (Kamelot). The audience went for the latter option. Still no excuse for not informing Anette, though.
7th Oct '12 9:06:05 PM KusanagiHayate
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** FanDumb. It's sad how many things in the Nightwish fandom can be answered with that.
1st Oct '12 12:12:01 PM jewelia13
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* Why is the fandom suddenly whining that they want Tarja back now that Anette's left? She's gone, she's got her own career, but they can't seem to accept it. For another thing - why would Tuomas ''ever'' think it's a good idea to have two replacement singers come in for Anette (and have to read the lyrics off pieces of paper) while she was ill - without her knowledge?
16th Feb '12 9:19:35 AM Jhimmibhob
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* The Fan Wank "Tarja vs Annette" debate is really starting to get old. You go to any Nightwish vid on YT, and at least half of the comments there say some variant of "Annette sucks, Tarja was better!" or vice-versa (which is why I'm glad I have a lot of their music on my iPod, so I don't have to rely on YT for my Nightwish fix). Really, it's been, what, two or three years now? Tarja's not in the group anymore, and unless some great miracle happens, she likely won't be coming back. Annette is a bit rough at spots in DPP, but this was her first album with the band, and there's a good chance she'll only get better from here. Why can people not let this die? And why do people act like it's some grave insult to like both singers (or, Gods help you, Annette better than Tarja)?
** It's not really fair to call it Fan Wank. Pointless, yes. It is after all a done deal. But if nothing else Tarja's dismissal from the band was part of some significant changes in direction for the band. Given the passionate nature of fans, and metal fans of all stripe in particular, it's inevitable there'll be discussion. Unfortunately the internet being the internet, it does tend to come off as more competing cults of personality. Still, there's a lot of issues lumped into Tarja vs Anette (or Tarja vs the rest of Nightwish).
** It's really irritating to have (even now) fanwars on Last.FM over which picture to use as Nightwish's display - the one with Tarja is being touted as "Voting up - this is the eternity!", while the more... ''progressive'' side (read: willing to accept change) is saying "This is the past, and if you can't live without the past get a time machine and leave us alone. Thanks." There's also reports of Anette walking offstage during a concert because people were heckling her and screaming "We want Tarja back!" Why are people so intent on blaming Anette for all of Nightwish's "problems", real and percieved?



* Even though I ''like'' EpicRocking, I still think "The Poet and the Pendulum" is about twice as long as it needs to be.
** Think of it as four separate movements.
*** They could've split it into 4 songs then :/
**** Look in the lyrics booklet - it has distinct separation points for ''five'' movements, you ''did'' buy the album didn't you? =P
*** You ''can'' buy the album without the liner notes- for example, using [=iTunes=]. =D



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18th Dec '11 3:28:22 PM jewelia13
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** It's really irritating to have (even now) fanwars on Last.FM over which picture to use as Nightwish's display - the one with Tarja is being touted as "Voting up - this is the eternity!", while the more... ''progressive'' side (read: willing to accept change) is saying "This is the past, and if you can't live without the past get a time machine and leave us alone. Thanks." There's also reports of Anette walking offstage during a concert because people were heckling her and screaming "We want Tarja back!" Why are people so intent on blaming Anette for all of Nightwish's "problems", real and percieved?
29th Mar '11 9:15:45 PM TheFuzzinator
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** Because FanDumb. A lot of people don't know there's a difference between an operatic ''sound'' and actual ''opera'', and will confuse classically-trained singers with actual opera singers.

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** Because FanDumb. A lot of people don't know there's a difference between an operatic ''sound'' and actual ''opera'', and will confuse classically-trained singers with actual opera singers. It doesn't help that the band itself was often billed as operatic power-metal, by outsiders if not by themselves.
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