History Headscratchers / NeverWhere

16th Sep '15 10:14:50 AM Morgenthaler
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** Could be that they can only use their abilities when doing something for somebody else, like a variation of the VampireInvitation. They take the role of hired killers because that's the only way they can use their talents and get something out of it, which stops them from simply ravaging everything and taking what they want, or killing their employer while on their contract. This is why Croup gets so angry at Islington - he enjoys killing people but can only do it when other people tell him to (or it could be seen as related to the mission, such as killing Richard to stop word getting out). When he's directly told he can't kill someone it's impossible for him to do so, which pisses him off to no end.

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** Could be that they can only use their abilities when doing something for somebody else, like a variation of the VampireInvitation.MustBeInvited rule. They take the role of hired killers because that's the only way they can use their talents and get something out of it, which stops them from simply ravaging everything and taking what they want, or killing their employer while on their contract. This is why Croup gets so angry at Islington - he enjoys killing people but can only do it when other people tell him to (or it could be seen as related to the mission, such as killing Richard to stop word getting out). When he's directly told he can't kill someone it's impossible for him to do so, which pisses him off to no end.
13th Apr '15 10:51:45 AM SharleeD
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* The way Anesthesia describes how she got to London Bellow sounds a lot like she died of exposure. Could this mean London Bellow is a sort of afterlife and everyone who "lives" there is dead?
** No, because several of the characters were born in the London Below (namely Doors), and Richard gets back and forth through situations that don't involve dying and is not the only person who goes back and forth, not to mention that the London Below has it's own little area that's essentially an afterlife and the small details that people from Below can physically interact with the London Above which we see through the eyes of ordinary people.

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* The way Anesthesia describes how she got to London Bellow sounds a lot like she died of exposure. Could this mean London Bellow Below is a sort of afterlife and everyone who "lives" there is dead?
** No, because several of the characters were born in the London Below (namely Doors), Door and her siblings), and Richard gets back and forth through situations that don't involve dying and is not the only person who goes back and forth, not to mention that the London Below has it's own little area that's essentially an afterlife and the small details that people from Below can physically interact with the London Above which we see through the eyes of ordinary people.
13th Apr '15 10:50:26 AM SharleeD
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** Having Lord Portico send Door to fetch the Key as a protection against the family's killers might leave her wondering why, if Portico knew such a thing existed, ''he'' hadn't gone to collect it years ago as a tool to help unite the domains. Having the message send Door to Islington makes it appear that her father never knew the Key even existed.
13th Apr '15 10:47:01 AM SharleeD
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** There are probably rat tunnels throughout the Labyrinth, whose residents needn't fear the Beast because it's too big to chase them into their burrows. The rats see everything, and probably reported on events to the Friars (and to Serpentine for that matter) in return for later or previous favors.
13th Apr '15 10:44:50 AM SharleeD
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*** They killed Varney without asking Islington to endorse their doing so, though. And Varney wasn't actually obstructing their work at the time they did so, even if his loss to Hunter did mean they'd wasted a bit of time recruiting him.
13th Apr '15 10:41:36 AM SharleeD
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** Portico was in contact with Islington. Presumably the angel told him that he was sending someone to discuss their mutual plans, and that someone turned out to be Croup and Vandemar: a fact that Portico didn't realize until too late.


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*** That wouldn't explain why they assumed it was cheating them when it headed for the door, though. Probably they were expecting a more tangible form of payment ''before'' Islington left; if it had wine from Atlantis, who knows what other irreplaceable ancient treasures it may have had lying around, that Croup would've delighted in destroying?
13th Apr '15 10:33:16 AM SharleeD
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*** Heck, what about Master Longtail? No reason to confine our WMGs to human characters....

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*** Heck, what about Master Longtail? No reason to confine our WMGs [=WMG=]s to human characters....
13th Apr '15 10:32:42 AM SharleeD
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**** Hunter is certainly one of the gay characters, as the novel reffers to a previous relationship with another woman. She certainly appears to have had a history with (and is the same age as) Serpentine. I assumed that Vandemar always had a thing for Croup (again in the novel he chooses to let go at the end and follow Croup into the abyss).

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*** Heck, what about Master Longtail? No reason to confine our WMGs to human characters....
**** Hunter is certainly one of the gay characters, as the novel reffers refers to a previous relationship with another woman. She certainly appears to have had a history with (and is the same age as) Serpentine. I assumed that Vandemar always had a thing for Croup (again in the novel he chooses to let go at the end and follow Croup into the abyss).
10th Apr '15 4:14:15 AM SharleeD
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*** Or, given the topographical weirdness of London Below, that ''anyone'' familiar with it can walk from one era to another If they know the right pathways. It'd certainly explain the local fashions.
23rd Oct '14 9:09:28 PM MobRules
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** Oh! This made something click for me. I had been bothered by the dangling thread -- Door wondering how Croup and Vandamar got into their home, since it should only have been accessible to Openers. But if Islington won the trust of one of her ancesters, and found out how to get in, and shared the information...
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