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*** This is most likely the crux of it. As big of a mess as the whole situation is, it doesn't really rise to the level of legal neglect. In addition to having their basic needs met, it's not like their parents hate Jesse and Anna or pretend they don't exist, they just have trouble prioritizing their needs because Kate's situation commands so much attention (which, by the way, is sadly actually pretty common in real life in families with a sick child; it's not so much a matter of the parents being ''evil'' so much as ''overwhelmed''). Also, just in a practical sense, it's not like emotional neglect is something that the foster care system is always great with either; if, for instance, Anna and/or Jesse were to end up in a group home or similar, they could find themselves just as emotionally neglected there as they were at home.

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*** This is most likely the crux of it. As big of a mess as the whole situation is, it doesn't really rise to the level of legal neglect. In addition to having their basic needs met, it's not like their parents hate Jesse and Anna or pretend they don't exist, they just have trouble prioritizing their needs because Kate's situation commands so much attention (which, by the way, is sadly actually pretty common in real life in families with a sick child; it's not so much a matter of the parents being ''evil'' so much as ''overwhelmed''). Also, just in a practical sense, it's not like emotional neglect is something that the foster care system is always great with either; if, for instance, even if Anna and/or Jesse were to be removed, they could very easily end up in a group home or similar, they could find themselves just as emotionally neglected there as situation where their emotional needs aren't being met any better than they were at home.home, and then you've caused massive disruption to their lives for no benefit.
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*** This is most likely the crux of it. As big of a mess as the whole situation is, it doesn't really rise to the level of legal neglect. In addition to having their basic needs met, it's not like their parents hate Jesse and Anna or pretend they don't exist, they just have trouble prioritizing their needs because Kate's situation commands so much attention (which, by the way, is sadly actually pretty common in real life in families with a sick child; it's not so much a matter of the parents being ''evil'' so much as ''overwhelmed'').

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*** This is most likely the crux of it. As big of a mess as the whole situation is, it doesn't really rise to the level of legal neglect. In addition to having their basic needs met, it's not like their parents hate Jesse and Anna or pretend they don't exist, they just have trouble prioritizing their needs because Kate's situation commands so much attention (which, by the way, is sadly actually pretty common in real life in families with a sick child; it's not so much a matter of the parents being ''evil'' so much as ''overwhelmed''). Also, just in a practical sense, it's not like emotional neglect is something that the foster care system is always great with either; if, for instance, Anna and/or Jesse were to end up in a group home or similar, they could find themselves just as emotionally neglected there as they were at home.

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** Or it's because, despite the way Sarah treats them, their needs are met, and the "neglect" in this case is of the emotional kind, which doesn't get [=CPS=] intervention, at least, not in the US

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** Or it's because, despite the way Sarah treats them, their needs are met, and the "neglect" in this case is of the emotional kind, which doesn't get [=CPS=] intervention, at least, not in the USUS.
*** This is most likely the crux of it. As big of a mess as the whole situation is, it doesn't really rise to the level of legal neglect. In addition to having their basic needs met, it's not like their parents hate Jesse and Anna or pretend they don't exist, they just have trouble prioritizing their needs because Kate's situation commands so much attention (which, by the way, is sadly actually pretty common in real life in families with a sick child; it's not so much a matter of the parents being ''evil'' so much as ''overwhelmed'').
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** There's also the fact that when the novel starts Kate's life is being measured in days, to the point that Sara successfully argues to get the trial date moved up; they may not have thought they had time to seek other counsel.
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** It's completely legal for a lawyer to represent a case involving family. Sara also has strong traits of narcissism, so she may think that such an important case will benefit from her involvement.
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** You're thinking of doctor, who are legally not allowed to operate on family members and friends. In the case of lawyers, it's ill advised but legal.

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** You're thinking of doctor, doctors, who are legally not allowed to operate on family members and friends. In the case of lawyers, it's ill advised but legal.



** Saying it is medically realistic isn't fair. The nurse would obviously say that this would be the right ending because she would always be on the side of the one who is sick, not considering anyone's else feelings. Also the nurse is breaking the whole idea of "do no harm" by suggesting such a idea.

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** Saying it is medically realistic isn't fair. The nurse would obviously say that this would be the right ending because she would always be on the side of the one who is sick, not considering anyone's else feelings. Also Also, the nurse is breaking the whole idea of "do no harm" by suggesting such a an idea.



** Perhaps they exploited a legal loophole, or it was an "open secret" at first -- everyone knew why Anna was ''really'' born, but everyone was careful not to write it down in case it was used as proof. By the time of the court case, though, there's less justification. I suppose since there's a case already in motion that would prevent her being used as an organ factory, the legal system might have decided on one case at a time -- perhaps Child Protection would have stepped in if Anna lost the case? This is one bit that I think the book did far better than the film; the doctor is put on the stand and grilled by Campbell, who demands to know why the hospital allowed dangerous, painful and invasive procedures on a patient when her best interests were not served by the procedures. It makes it clear the the hospital had to bear ''some'' responsibility for suggesting that course of action in the first place... Of course, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse nothing ever comes of it]], as far as we know.

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** Perhaps they exploited a legal loophole, or it was an "open secret" at first -- everyone knew why Anna was ''really'' born, but everyone was careful not to write it down in case it was used as proof. By the time of the court case, though, there's less justification. I suppose since there's a case already in motion that would prevent her being used as an organ factory, the legal system might have decided on one case at a time -- perhaps Child Protection would have stepped in if Anna lost the case? This is one bit that I think the book did far better than the film; the doctor is put on the stand and grilled by Campbell, who demands to know why the hospital allowed dangerous, painful and invasive procedures on a patient when her best interests were not served by the procedures. It makes it clear the the hospital had to bear ''some'' responsibility for suggesting that course of action in the first place... Of course, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse nothing ever comes of it]], as far as we know.
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** Saying it is medically realistic isn't fair. The nurse would obviously say that this would be the right ending because she would always be on the side of the one who is sick, not considering anyone's else feelings.

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** Saying it is medically realistic isn't fair. The nurse would obviously say that this would be the right ending because she would always be on the side of the one who is sick, not considering anyone's else feelings. Also the nurse is breaking the whole idea of "do no harm" by suggesting such a idea.
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*** Without getting into the can of mutated fire ants, it's not illegal for a doctor to suggest the idea (actually, the USA doesn't have any laws about them), so the way I took it was that they really meant that the Dr's suggestion violated the hospital code of conduct/ethics or a rule about giving referrals (something about liabilities).

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*** Without ***Without getting into the can of mutated fire ants, it's not illegal for a doctor to suggest the idea (actually, the USA doesn't have any laws about them), "savior siblings"), so the way I took it was that they really meant that the Dr's suggestion violated the hospital code of conduct/ethics or a rule about giving referrals (something about liabilities).
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***Without getting into the can of mutated fire ants, it's not illegal for a doctor to suggest the idea (actually, the USA doesn't have any laws about them), so the way I took it was that they really meant that the Dr's suggestion violated the hospital code of conduct/ethics or a rule about giving referrals (something about liabilities).

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** How the hell did the parents in either the book or the movie even get to keep custody of their kids? One ends up a semi-psychotic pyromaniac out of neglect, and the other they treated like an organ bank? Especially the mother, they're just awful, AWFUL people.
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** * How the hell did the parents in either the book or the movie even get to keep custody of their kids? One ends up a semi-psychotic pyromaniac out of neglect, and the other they treated like an organ bank? Especially the mother, they're just awful, AWFUL people.
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**Or it's because, despite the way Sarah treats them, their needs are met, and the "neglect" in this case is of the emotional kind, which doesn't get [=CPS=] intervention, at least, not in the US
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** How the hell did the parents in either the book or the movie even get to keep custody of their kids? One ends up a semi-psychotic pyromaniac out of neglect, and the other they treated like an organ bank? Especially the mother, they're just awful, AWFUL people.

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** How the hell did the parents in either the book or the movie even get to keep custody of their kids? One ends up a semi-psychotic pyromaniac out of neglect, and the other they treated like an organ bank? Especially the mother, they're just awful, AWFUL people.people.
***SocialServicesDoesNotExist and/or PoliceAreUseless
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** I asked Picoult at an event, and she said something akin to “you, like everyone else, took her for granted, so shame on you” (not even joking). So there’s a reason, at least thematically. It was a few years ago so I don’t remember details.
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** Perhaps they exploited a legal loophole, or it was an "open secret" at first -- everyone knew why Anna was ''really'' born, but everyone was careful not to write it down in case it was used as proof. By the time of the court case, though, there's less justification. I suppose since there's a case already in motion that would prevent her being used as an organ factory, the legal system might have decided on one case at a time -- perhaps Child Protection would have stepped in if Anna lost the case? This is one bit that I think the book did far better than the film; the doctor is put on the stand and grilled by Campbell, who demands to know why the hospital allowed dangerous, painful and invasive procedures on a patient when her best interests were not served by the procedures. It makes it clear the the hospital had to bear ''some'' responsibility for suggesting that course of action inb the first place... Of course, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse nothing ever comes of it]], as far as we know.

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** Perhaps they exploited a legal loophole, or it was an "open secret" at first -- everyone knew why Anna was ''really'' born, but everyone was careful not to write it down in case it was used as proof. By the time of the court case, though, there's less justification. I suppose since there's a case already in motion that would prevent her being used as an organ factory, the legal system might have decided on one case at a time -- perhaps Child Protection would have stepped in if Anna lost the case? This is one bit that I think the book did far better than the film; the doctor is put on the stand and grilled by Campbell, who demands to know why the hospital allowed dangerous, painful and invasive procedures on a patient when her best interests were not served by the procedures. It makes it clear the the hospital had to bear ''some'' responsibility for suggesting that course of action inb in the first place... Of course, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse nothing ever comes of it]], as far as we know.

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