History Headscratchers / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicGeneralCanon

20th Jul '16 9:24:03 PM PacificGreen
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** Looking back on this, the latter half definitely gave us a few new antagonists: The Flim-Flam Brothers ("The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000"); the minotaur guy ("Putting Your Hoof Down"); the dragon teenage gang ("Dragon Quest"); Gustave Le Grande, Mulia Mild, and Donut Joe ("[=MMMystery=] on the Friendship Express"), and Queen Chrysalis ("A Canterlot Wedding") Some of these guys are antagonists only in that they oppose whatever characters are in the focus that episode though (which would make Cranky Doodle Donkey from "A Friend in Deed" one as well) and are otherwise decent people.

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** Looking back on this, the latter half definitely gave us a few new antagonists: The Flim-Flam Brothers ("The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000"); the minotaur guy Iron Will ("Putting Your Hoof Down"); the dragon teenage gang ("Dragon Quest"); Gustave Le Grande, Mulia Mild, and Donut Joe ("[=MMMystery=] on the Friendship Express"), and Queen Chrysalis ("A Canterlot Wedding") Some of these guys are antagonists only in that they oppose whatever characters are in the focus that episode though (which would make Cranky Doodle Donkey from "A Friend in Deed" one as well) and are otherwise decent people.



** Most likely with the arguable exception of Spike who seems to wander this strange line between pet, little brother, indentured servant and friend the animals are not her peers. Even if they are sentient they still don't matter in quite the same way as ponies do. It's like how some children are perfectly chatty with adults but quiet around kids their age. No adult is ever going to invite them to a sleep over or make fun of their braces. Similarly some of those same kids can easily give speeches to large crowds because there is a world of difference between a crowd of largely nobodies watching you and being one on one with Chris. Similarly Fluttershy isn't going to die alone if every dragon on the planet shuns her.

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** Most likely with the arguable exception of Spike who seems to wander this strange line between pet, little brother, indentured servant and friend the animals are not her peers. Even if they are sentient they still don't matter in quite the same way as ponies do. It's like how some children are perfectly chatty with adults but quiet around kids their age. No adult is ever going to invite them to a sleep over or make fun of their braces. Similarly some of those same kids can easily give speeches to large crowds because there is a world of difference between a crowd of largely nobodies watching you and being one on one with Chris. Similarly Fluttershy isn't going to die alone if every dragon on the planet shuns her.

* Am I the only one that thinks the Earth Ponies are getting shafted for representation in the royalty? I know unicorns are meant to be Equestria's elite, but if it's not to present them as being all three Pony types in one body, why does a princess ''have'' to be an Alicorn? If a Pegasus had all the necessary qualities to be a princess, would Celestia give her a horn? If it was an Earth Pony, would Celestia give her a horn ''and'' wings? Or is magic ability the cornerstone of high authority in Equestria and no one ''but'' a unicorn/born alicorn, if they exist, would ever be considered in the first place?
** Apparantly, the princesses being taller than regular ponies(Fleur De Lis notwithstanding) is the representation of the earth pony part of the alicorns, as Twilight did became a [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130724211757/mlp/images/thumb/a/a1/Twilight_walking_with_Applejack_EG.png/640px-Twilight_walking_with_Applejack_EG.png bit taller]] and [[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130724212148/mlp/images/thumb/8/8d/Applejack_%22no_reason_to_fret%22_EG.png/640px-Applejack_%22no_reason_to_fret%22_EG.png more stylized]]. And The book "Twilight Sparkle and the Crystal Heart Spell" states that Cadance was born a Pegasus and became an Alicorn later, so take that as you want.
*** Taller and thinner doesn't really gel with the idea of Earth ponies, they're built tougher than the other pony types. Alicorns certainly aren't physically stronger than Earth ponies, at least, even though they have more powerful magic and bigger, stronger wings than unicorns and pegasi. If anything, physically speaking, they're much weaker.
*** Unless Celestia and Applejack had a hoof-wrestling contest that I don't know about, we don't really have a baseline for comparison. For what it's worth, in "Luna Eclipsed" Luna stomps her hooves hard enough to shake the ground, which implies pretty impressive physical strength. Not to mention that alicorns explicitly have the powers of all three pony races, which implies that they ''would'' be as strong and durable as earth ponies. Just because they're taller and thinner doesn't mean that they're physically weaker. Also, the S4 premiere implies that Earth Ponies have a degree of earth control magic of some sort (AJ notes that it's weird that the earth ponies can't get rid of the vines, implying that normally they'd have an advantage).
*** They didn't have a hoof-wrestling contest, but Applejack and the others were all strong enough not to be physically overpowered by them. Luna, Celestia, and Twilight all were. That would suggest that Luna's earth-shaking is Earth pony passive magic, not physical strength; and on top of that, Celestia gets her butt kicked all the time.
*** While I'm aware of the "deeper connection to nature" thing, I actually interpreted that comment about earth ponies being unable to pull out the roots being regarding their physical strength.
*** Funny that hoof-wrestling should be mentioned. In [[ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW the IWD comics]] Big [=McIntosh=] actually did hoof-wrestle Celestia. She was effortlessly holding him back despite him visibly straining to move her.
*** Based on what (I admit is very little) I've seen of the comics, they don't really do well with canon. But now that I think of it, where ''does'' it say that alicorns have all the qualities of all three pony races? I can't remember seeing that anywhere, it just made the most logical sense. From what I can observe in the show, they have a super-powered version of all three races' unique traits, not just those traits on their own. Alicorn magic is greater than unicorn magic, Alicorn wings are greater than Pegasus wings... it would make sense that the super-version of the Earth pony physique is the Alicorn physique: tall, slender and beautiful in addition to Earth pony strength and stamina.
*** I don't know where the idea that they have traits of all three races comes from either or even where it's truly confirmed that Earth Ponies have any special power at all. The closest we come is Hearth Warming's Eve's explanation of the three races and how they originally worked together and if the story was close to accurate and modern members of the races are anything like their ancestors unicorns might be too prissy to work the earth and Pegasai to concerned with the weather. Both of their unique traits would easily explain why earth ponies are viewed as stronger. Unicorns can use magic to avoid physical labor (telekinesis seems to come standard) and Pegasai can fly and seem to most of the time so they'd naturally have weaker legs from lack of use.
*** It comes from [[http://msmagazine.com/blog/2010/12/24/my-little-non-homophobic-non-racist-non-smart-shaming-pony-a-rebuttal/ Lauren Faust apparently]]. Dunno whether it's official canon though.
*** Don't overlook that in Hearth Warming's Eve there is a scene where Smart Cookie makes a tiny sprout she has picked up with her hoof (along with soil) grow a bit larger. It's pretty much canon that Earth ponies at least have the magical power to improve plant growth.

* The tree of harmony. I know it was pretty much made up for season 4 just as Cadence and Shining Armour were made up for season 2... but why was something this obvious never discovered before? Why didn't Celestia or Luna mention it? Somebody was sure to ask "Princess Luna/Celestia, where did you and Celesia/Luna get the elements of Harmony?"
** Because Princess Twilight wasn't special enough and we needed a new magical thing to put her cutie mark on.
** I'm not so sure that anyone ''would'' ask; as of the show's pilot, it looks like Twilight and Celestia are the only ponies who know of them. They aren't common knowledge until after NMM's defeat, and even then it's never clear if the public knows about them or if the information is contained to the Princesses and the Element Bearers themselves. It also seems to be that messing with the Tree of Harmony could have some pretty serious consequences, so it makes sense that Celestia and Luna would keep it under wraps.
*** [[FridgeBrilliance Which is why Celestia no longer represents the element of honesty... because of her inability to stop giving a casual lie of omission.]]

* Given what we know about dragons, what makes ponies grow? Because it isn't time: Granny Smith is older than dirt and we know what she looked like as a youngster, she was never tall, but Luna goes from "taller than normal pony" to "equal to Celestia" through anger and jealousy and back again, but she and Celestia are both the same size a thousand years ago that they are now. So what makes ponies grow? Anger? Jealousy? Power?
** Granny Smith is a normal pony, and Luna is an alicorn, so I'm not sure if you can compare them. Twilight grew a bit when she became an alicorn, so it's possible that alicorns' sizes are dependent on their power level or something. Luna was Celestia's equal, got temporarily depowered by the elements (and shrunk a bit) then regained her full power.
*** Luna was never Celestia's equal. She's the same size in all the flashbacks as she is after being transformed back from being Nightmare Moon. And then there's Fleur de Lis, who has the height and thinness of an alicorn but is apparently a normal unicorn, and Prince Blueblood and Big Macintosh, who have a similar build but Mac is much taller... I am genuinely confused by this.
*** Much of the Canterlot elite too, not just Blueblood. The Watsonian explanation is that different ponies have different heights the same way humans have different heights (with alicorns being special cases, I suppose). The Doylian explanation is that the characters were designed with the sizes they have to better reflect their traits: Mr. Fancypants is taller to make him appear imposing to Rarity, Big [=McIntosh=] is larger because he's strong, etc.
* Why is Princess Luna so small? Originally fannon seemed to have settled on Celestia being one thousand years older than her because of her entrapment in the moon as of S4E1&2 "Princess Twilight Sparkle" we know that's not true.
** Maybe she's small because she's small. Not all ponies are created equal. Suppose this carried over when Luna and Celestia ascended to Alicorns.
* How long is supposed to have passed in the show by now? They seem to have have two separate winters but Celestia is points out at the beginning of Season 4 that this is the first time she can claim to be happy about the Summer Sun Celebration which if I'm not mistaken is an ANNUAL event.
** Why can't it be a year? Considering Season 1 had a winter episode right before a fall episode, I can safely assume the episodes are not in chronological order. Besides, how many Christmases have the Simpson family and Springfield gone through while Bart remains 9 years old?
*** The Simpsons can do that because they're frozen in time themselves, but they're still held to a certain degree of chronological order (Bart is 10 forever but he still only gets one Christmas a year.) MLP actually has characters grow and change without resetting the status quo, and the seasons explicitly change on schedule (Winter Wrap up says Winter lasted three months, in fact), so they do have an observable timeline, and from season 2 onward, we have observable milestones (Other ponies sending the Friendship letters, for instance) that can put things in a general order. It can't have been a year because there have been at least two winters since Nightmare Moon was defeated, the one in Winter Wrap-up and the one in Hearth's Warming Eve, and both have consistent places in that timeline.
*** If it was a single year it's one of the oddest combinations of status quo is god and constant progression I've seen. Obviously in shows like the Simpsons they have multiple Christmases and winters but MLP has actual milestone marks. S1 has what looks like a goof with Winter Wrap-Up preceeding Fair Weather friends but we know Ticket Master, Suited for Success and the Grand Galloping Gala are in the proper order and separated by at least a few days if not more. Season 2 gives us Baby Cakes and the Canterlot Wedding (not necessarily in that order mind you but probably). Season 3 gives us Bad Apple and Apple Family reunuinion necessarily in that order because Apple Bloom knows Babs Seed and greets her as her favorite cousin. Season 4 also has to be in order since they are now visiting the Castle in Everfree apparently at will. The show has too many fixed points in time for the typical status quo.
** Perhaps, she meant she's happy because it's her first time doing the event with her sister instead of alone.
*** That's what she said. The question is about if one season roughly equates to a year, a fact somewhat supported by the winter episodes and other progression in the story, why is this the first Summer Sun Celebration since Princess Luna's return. Call me crazy but I think the Summer Sun Celebration would have been a much better coming out party than Nightmare Night.
*** Several reasons could have happened: Luna took a loong time recovering/was in observation/was ashamed of herself/had massive guilt and it took until nightmare moon "last year" for her to be comfortable around her subjects, and this is the first Summer Sun she has attended since her return.
** The seasonal episodes can ''not'' have occurred in the order that they were aired or produced. ''Winter Wrap Up'' and ''Hearth's Warming'' were before ''Fall Weather Friends'' and the cider episode, respectively. ''Luna Eclipsed'' is dated as fall because pumpkins are an autumn harvest, and was placed before Spike's first birthday in Ponyville, so it had to occur before either of the winter episodes. The rest of the episodes seem to take place during the summer regardless of where they are relative to the winter and fall episodes. They were either out of order, in which case placing the two winter and three fall episodes together is acceptable, or they just plain don't reflect the passage of time.
*** It's even possible (as of Season 4 it's all but confirmed) that Hearth's Warming and Winter Wrap Up happened in the same year which actually makes more sense than the alternative. For narrative reasons you only do one Christmas/Winter episode a season same with fall/Halloween/Thanksgiving but in actuality these are all annual events and Twilight should have been introduced to each of them in the same year the same way a foreigner in America would experience all the holidays in one year. However the original question makes an assumption, that the Summer Sun Celebration is annual, that at best is only partially supported. First it may very well be something akin to the Olympics or other events that don't actually happen each year but rather every few (which seeing as season 4 has given us our second it's possible this was the next one) and we know that the series opener marked the first time it had been in Ponyville in years. We know of several other cities (Manehatten, Fillydelphia, Crystal Empire, Saddle Arabia just to name a few) it may be that this SSC taking place in Canterlot is simply the first time the sisters have done it together since ancient times. (Which doesn't quite explain her line about it being a bad reminder in years past but it comes close.)
*** The Summer Sun Celebration comes on the summer solstice. Having it be anything other than annual would need support. Actually, wasn't the Celebration said to be the thousandth one? That would confirm them being annual.
** Celestia's exact words are:
-->"I must admit that it is wonderful to actually be looking forward to the Summer Sun Celebration. For my subjects, it has always been a celebration of my defeat of Nightmare Moon. But for me... it was just a terrible reminder that I'd had to banish my own sister. But now it has become a wonderful reminder of her transformation back into Princess Luna, and our happy reunion."
** This does ''not'' say that it is Celestia's first Summer Sun Celebration with Luna in over 1000 years. The language can be interpreted to mean that is simply a ''relatively'' new state of affairs. Consider an ordinary person saying "It's wonderful to actually look forward to going in to work. My job has always been soul-crushing and I dreaded waking up every morning. But now, with my new boss, my job has become a wonderful opportunity to use my talents and creativity." Nothing about that statement implies it's the first happy day, simply that the now-happy days are a recent turn. Likewise for Celestia, ''especailly considering her age'', "now" could easily refer to the past five Summer Sun Celebrations.
* Concerning Star Swirl's spell...it's the only spell used to date that actually has a verbal component. What's the deal with that?
** It's extremely powerful magic seemingly unaided by artifacts. Also unless Pinky Pie was just being Pinky Pie it's not the only spell with a verbal component. The Multiplying Mirror required verbal components as well.

* What would happen if [[EndlessDaytime Ahuizotl]] and [[NightThatNeverEnds Nightmare Moon's]] respective EvilPlans had ''both'' succeeded?
** Either eternal eclipse, something like what happened in the opening of season 4 where both existed simultaneously, or their effects would only be localized to their respective territories (Equestria for Nightmare Moon, the Whatitscalled Valley for Ahuizotl).
** I figured for Ahuizotl, it would have just been the valley - he mentions that he wanted to plunge the valley into eternal heat, rather than Equestria.
*** Possibly. Equestria however has real fuzzy borders to say the least though. In the pilot Apple Jack declares that the Everfree Forest isn't part of Equestria. If the various maps we've seen are cannon though the Everfree Forest not being part of Equestia is problematic at best.
** Ahuizotl's plan would have produced eternal ''heat,'' so it probably would have resulted in a very hot night around those parts.

* Are [[LonersAreFreaks loners freaks]] in this universe, or what? The magic of friendship is the best thing ever, the movie makes a point of telling Sunset Shimmer that she can't handle the Element of Magic because she doesn't have friends, and so on. Zecora is treated like a freak, but then the Mane Six become her friends, so it's all good again. Even Cranky, the only character who even ''wants'' to be alone, has to have Pinkie badger him until she finds his love interest before he can have any time to himself. So, at least in Equestria, ''can'' anypony just be cool to be by themselves, without implicitly having no virtues to speak of?
** Yes. Zecora is treated like a freak but the clear moral of that story was about prejudice and judging people you don't know. Since then she's proven herself to be a valuable member of the community. Cranky didn't want to be alone, he wanted Pinkie Pie to leave him alone (which most people would). I think it's also worth defining virtues. The virtue taught in 'Putting your Hoof Down' was about self confidence, I don't think anybody would accuse any of our villains (sans Babs Seed) of lacking confidence.
*** I would. I don't think they have confidence as much as they have arrogance, except possibly Discord post-reformation, and even then it's not confidence as much as "sitting on a big pile of all the fucks he doesn't give". But the end result is that they stop being considered an anomaly once they make friends, and people without friends are usually villains (or at least, need some kind of fixing).
*** The difference between confidence and arrogance is often entirely subjective. The original question however asking is it impossible for loners in the MLP universe to have virtue and the obvious answer still seems to be yes. Zecora as far as we know didn't change much if any upon making friends. She had her virtue all along and it was the citizens of Ponyville who were in the wrong there. Queen Chrysalis quite obviously cares about her subjects. Trixie to her credit at least took a shot at the Ursa (minor) when fleeing first, last and always was in her better interest. They are still "bad" ponies but claiming they are without virtue isn't accurate.
*** It's subjective, maybe, but the difference does exist. Zecora doesn't count because she makes friends around the same time she's introduced, so she's not a loner. Chrysalis doesn't count because she has subjects in the first place, she's not a loner either. And Trixie's example would suggest that being a loner really does mean having no virtues: she took a shot at the Ursa Minor because she wanted to play hero like she'd been doing all along, not because she was actually trying to protect anyone she cared about. The show seems to have the idea that, if you had any qualities of being a good friend, you'd ''have'' good friends already, or at least you wouldn't have any trouble making any.
** This is a television show isn't it? So of course it's going to abide by the LonersAreFreaks stereotype - a show about Friendship is certainly not going to glorify ''loners''. That would be teaching the kids to accept introverts as simply wanting to be left alone, and we can't have that, can we?
** Just to point out, you can have friends and still be a loner. Zecora has at least seven (The Mane Six and Applebloom) friends but still chooses to live in the Everfree Forest and spends most of her time alone. No one begrudges her this, and she only comes into town on errands or for celebrations like Nightmare Night. Difference between Zecora and Cranky is that while Zecora is alone because she enjoys solitude, Cranky was only alone because he would rather wallow in misery for what might have been rather than spend time with other ponies...that pronoun kinda loses meaning in a multi-species society doesn't it?
* Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. What in God's name is their special talent? Being huge snobs?
** Probably not quite. Diamond Tiara is the daughter of Filthy Rich who's special talent seems to be business acumen. Given the above discussion about how much Destiny is apparently involved in the names ponies receive it wouldn't be a shock to find out that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon's special talents revolve in someway around being rich and spoiled.
*** How can anybody be ''really really good'' at being rich and spoiled...? Cutie Marks confuse the hell out of me.
*** Paris Hilton and the Kardashians make a fairly good case for being rich and famous for being rich and famous. Which is what seems most probable for for those two. At any rate their names and cutie marks make more sense than Snips and Snails.
*** Snips and Snails make perfect sense to me, although mostly it just characterizes them as the joke they are. "Snips and snails and puppy dog tails" is from the nursery rhyme about what little boys are made of (as opposed to "sugar, spice, and everything nice" for little girls). And in a less meta sense, their cutie marks are scissors and a snail; they could be amazing at haircuts and... mollusk studies, or something. I know "being born with a silver spoon in your mouth" is a euphemism for being born into a wealthy family, but shouldn't that mean her cutie mark should have shown up when she was born? And I don't even know where diamond tiara comes from, if it comes from anywhere.
**** For Snip and Snails, their cutie marks could represent their personalities and low intelligence. Snails are slow, and when people are called snails or slow, they are mostly being referred to as dumb. Not entirely sure about Snips, though.
*** If the show doesn't go the passive-aggressive, "people I hate have worthless talents" idea, then possible contenders include leader or jeweller for Diamond Tiara, and chef, food critic or silverware designer for Silver Spoon.
*** Cutie Marks are also a metaphor for puberty so no Silver Spoon wouldn't have been born with it anymore than Apple Jack was born with hers despite being born to take over Sweet Apple Acres or Rarity who's special talent quite literally dragged her across mountains and valleys before revealing her Cutiemark. And LOTS of ponies have if not outright useless talents certainly sub-optimal talents. As far as we can tell the Apple Family (the best example of a group) are either cripplingly over specialized to the point of most of them cooking only a single dish or (more likely) the family has so much overlap that their cutie marks and names are really just color coding for our convience and not really indicating a special talent.
*** I know they're a puberty thing, I'm just saying that a cutie mark that designates someone as being super talented at being ''born'' rich, they can only do that once, so if it's gonna show up at all, there you go. That does make me want to have an OC pony whose cutie mark is a soppy trash bag and their special talent is being a real asshole.
** We don't know the talents of most of the cast. Even with the Manes, we only have confirmed talents for a couple of them. And given what we know about cutie marks, they don't always connect to a specific talent.

* Why is Twilight the authority on friendship charged with teaching her friends (and all of Ponyville_ about it, when she learned everything she knows ''from them'' and has only had functioning social skills for a couple of years?
** Share the wealth? She'd have learned from one person, but others might not have that same knowledge, so she'd be teaching it to them.
*** She doesn't really have a wealth to share. She still knows the least about friendship of anypony in the Mane Six, it's just that now she delivers the lesson of the day to them as a teacher (and kind of condescendingly, if she's the OnlySaneMan that episode) instead of reporting to Celestia.
** So far, she hasn't done any teaching. Maybe she's going to have a class at Celestia's school?
*** Not in a classroom, no, but she seems to be giving out the lessons of the day to the other ponies, when it's about the group and not somebody's day in the limelight, and it's not something ''she'' learned that day, it's something she's imparting to the others.

* Why do all ponies seem to get their cutie marks at roughly the same age? If each pony has only one special talent that could be literally anything, and they don't know what it is until they've done it, and they have free will, there must be a few whose talent happens to be something they're not interested in, or something so bizarre they wouldn't consider trying it. For example, what if one pony's talent was harvesting maple sap, and he never lived within 5000 miles of a maple tree? Since it's impossible to make a list of all potential cutie marks and try everything in alphabetical order, it should be possible to completely miss one's talent well into adulthood, perhaps for a lifetime. So where are those unfortunate freaks? Do they commit suicide at the age of 20 or what?
** Real Answer: Because it's a metaphor for puberty and represents a natural change in a pony. In-Universe Cutie Marks seem to have a lot less with a pony's special talent than the show likes to imply with the CMC. All of the Mane 6 got there marks at the exact same time and even with capital F Fate being in play hardly make sense for the them. Rarity's talent for example is clearly dress making or beautifying, but her cutie mark and spell are gem finding, and she certainly wasn't trying to find those gems at any (rate her horn literally dragged her for what appears to be miles). Fluttershy was rescued by Butterflies and learned she could communicate with animals. Twilight was already in Magic Kindergarten (and hence trying what her special talent would eventually be) when she had an uncontrolled burst of power, Pinkie saw a rainbow in the sky and threw a party. As is mentioned higher on this page the Apple Family either all have very general cutie marks that cover apple farming, or they are cripplingly overspecialized.
** Also, a cutie mark doesn't only tell what kind of occupation, but can also tell their personalities. Fluttershy's three butterfly's symbolizes her shy and timid nature; Pinkie Pie's three balloons symbolize her party-animal personality; Rarity's three gems could symbolize her desire to shine, or make other things shine.
*** Oh yeah, that's soooo much better than not knowing. "Capital-F Fate has revealed I don't have the slightest bit of natural talent for anything, just a shy and timid nature that I cannot ever overcome because it's written on my body!" The suicide hypothesis seems less cruel somehow.
** Cutie marks are a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy, they get them when they find something they're very good at and actually like doing, so it is natural that it would happen as soon as they can form coherent thoughts and decide and express for themselves what they like and what they don't. We have seen several ponies interpret their cutie marks as whatever they like, and we have seen ponies with cutie marks dedicating their lives to something different that what their cutie mark would indicate: Twilight Sparkle's talent is magic, but she loves being a librarian and reading in general, Pinkie Pie(Either throwing parties or bringing happiness to others) works as a Bakery and seems to be very competent making all kinds of pastries. Short Answer, Cutie Marks don't limit the pony at all, they can dedicate their lives to whatever the hell they want.
** That's nice, but you never told me there's at least one adult blankflank in canon: King Sombra. [[HitlerAteSugar Make of that what you will.]]

* So why exactly do Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon hate the Cutie Mark Crusaders? It's one thing for the duo to mock CMC for their blank flanks, but half the time it seems that they, Diamond in particular, outright want to totally ruin the Crusaders' lives.
** Bullies often don't have a reason, or at least not a ''good'' one, especially in children's media. At this point, DT is just being the quintessential AlphaBitch.
** They're bullies. It's what they do.
** In the episode where Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo were first formally introduced, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon don't seem to even recognize the two despite the fact that they should be sharing classes with them. It may have originally been a vendetta against Apple Bloom, and the others got more and more flak as the trio became more and more inseparable.

* I've seen almost everywhere how everyone believes that Silver Spoon may be friendlier than Diamond Tiara, and that Spoon may one day either leave Tiara, or convince her to be more friendly with the Cutie Mark Crusaders. Admittedly, there have been a few times when we see Spoon's sincerity (such as when she clapped at the end of Granny Smith's founding of Ponyville story), but for the most part, she is quite as malicious as Diamond Tiara with the bullying of the CMC and making fun of Scootaloo's inability to fly. I think a better way to show Spoon's kindness (if there is any) would be for her to show doubt in their "cause", or try to reel in Diamond Tiara from her more malicious moments; probably something as simple as "That's a little harsh."
** While I think the fandom is just trying too hard to make her into a "good" character, she gets off easier, because she's clearly a follower. She doesn't even seem like the type who would engage in the behavior without a leader.
** Then how would Silver Spoon act like if Diamond Tiara wasn't around (at the moment)? Would she actually be nice with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, or hardly even acknowledge them?

* Given that as it stands Princess is a race and title turned into one does it come with the raw power boost that Celestia and Luna seem to have? It's an important question because if I watched S4E1 "Princess Twilight Sparkle" properly the plunder seeds were expanding from Everfree and probably creating those wacky clouds somehow. The sun and moon however were both up because Celestia didn't get a chance to lower the sun and Luna apparently raised it and expected she could get 'Tia to do her half and then got snatched as well. Regardless as far as we know none of the unicorns nor most importantly Twilight Sparkle attempted to fix the situation, which should have been amongst the first things they attempted. If the Plunder Seeds hadn't returned Luna and Celestia could Cadence and Twilight even actually step in successfully and do their jobs?
** There has been no mention or implication of Twilight Sparkle receiving a power boost. That said, the unicorns used to turn the sun and moon themselves, so an organized group ''should'' have been able to take control, assuming that anyone other than the Royal Sister knows the spell. The series has never really explained why the unicorns don't take care of the sun and moon anymore.
*** Since they already have two alicorns (or one alicorn during Nightmare Moon's thousand-year banishment) who could take care of raising or lowering the Sun and the Moon with relative ease, I suppose it meant the unicorns responsible for the Sun and the Moon weren't needed anymore. Besides, the start of the series takes place well over a thousand-years since unicorns were needed to raise or lower the Sun or the Moon; techniques like that are bound to be forever lost. Now, I can imagine Celestia possibly teaching a select a few how to raise or lower the Sun or the Moon should something happen to her or Luna, but how often would something like that happen, and on such short notice?
**** Over just the four seasons we've seen we know of at least three threats Nightmare Moon/whatever changed Luna, Discord and Chrysalis who seem to be credible threats to the Royal Pony Sisters. King Sombra might have been a threat and there could be other things. Raising and lowering the sun and moon are a bit vital. While it would be perfectly in character Celestia and Luna would be quite remiss not teaching at least Twilight and Cadence how to do it unless it's less technique and more brute strength that's needed.
**** Well, "Twilight's Kingdom" let Twilight get some practice in re: raising the sun, although her performance level suggests that giving her a couple more practice runs before her next solo flight would be a good idea. Then again, she was on a power boost for that, so she might still need some time to grow back into the size needed for the job naturally now that the boost is gone. Still, it does clearly show that Twilight's alicorn body has the ''capability'' to channel that much power safely, even if we're not sure if she can generate that much power on her own yet or not.
* What exactly ''are'' the Wonderbolts supposed to be? I assumed at first that they were basically a group of performers, maybe even similar to sports stars. But between ''The Wonderbolt Academy'' boot camp episode and general fanon, they seem to come across more as an actual military of sorts. ''Testing 123'' implies that they were just perfomers to commemorate the formation of the EUP, but the same episode reveals that Wonderbolts of the past had actual military titles such as General Firefly. So are they just performers who simply run things in an efficient, military-esque fashion, or an actual standing army expected to fight in war zones?
** The Wonderbolts are basically the Blue Angels for Equestria. They are military flyers whose primary duty is being entertainers today. Given the Secret of my Excess shows them engage Spike they are definitely a formal part of what ever passes for the Equestrian military and not only a performance troupe though that is probably how they are used more often than not. Threats in Equestria seem to only have to levels, nearly nonexistant and we need the Elements/Crystal Heart/Princesses.
** The original Wonderbolts were recruited from the military. The modern ones don't seem to require joining the military, and Rainbow has at least tried to join them without anyone even implying military enlistment. So, the modern version had and might still have ties to the military, but doesn't seem to still be part of it, although at least some Wonderbolts are willing to help out in a crisis.
** And if anyplace has a legitimate excuse for being MildlyMilitary, its a magical kingdom that apparently hasn't had any war in the past thousand years.
** They might be something like NASA, where they have ties to the military and a lot of former military personal, but are, technically, a civilian organization. That would account for their military origin while not requiring Rainbow to join the EUP. As for some of the Wonderbolts attacking Spike back in the second season, aside from the fact that the civilian Manes have helped out in emergencies, it isn't unreasonable for some former military fliers to try to help.
* Has anyone noticed that in the pilot episode, when the Elements of Harmony are portrayed in the book, they appear as red, blue, yellow/orange, pink, green and purple, yet when we see the physical elements themselves, there is no green element. Instead both Twilight and Rarity's elements are purple. Why the change?
** The books is an inaccurate fairy tale. It has Luna and Celestia standing at the same height and Celestia with pink hair instead of her rainbow mane. Hearth's Warming Eve has similar inaccuracies with the flag founding Equestria portraying the Royal Pony Sisters who weren't born/in Equestria at that time.
* Why is Applejack the only one in her family who speaks with a Southern accent?
** I'm afraid I don't follow. Applebloom, Big Mac, and Granny Smith all speak with Southern accents too.
** A better question is why the Apple family have southern accents. No one else in town does.
*** In a S2 episode, Granny Smith explains that she came from another county and her family founded Ponyville. Maybe she came from the South, and the rest of the inhabitants came from Canterlot/surrounding counties.
* Why does Applejack have two mane-ponytails in the videogame? Doesn't she have just one?
** Probably it was based on a toy with molded hair that sport the same double ponytails.
* Also about the Elements: why does Rarity represent generosity? Pinkie Pie definitely fits that description better (Exhibit A: the smile song. Pinkie works her rump off just to brighten up other pony's days), and it seems like Rarity is only ever generous when the episode focuses on the elements. If I had to pick a word to represent Rarity, I'd choose imagination instead, since she's always coming up with ideas.
** Speaking as someone who does art for a living, and on behalf of all those who make creativity their careers: ''bite your tongue''. Rarity is constantly designing and tailoring outfits for her friends, allowing others to use her materials (which are literal ''gemstones'' a lot of the time), and considers it a personal failure when she ''doesn't'' put doing so ahead of her other personal projects. She has ''entire songs'' about it! She's constantly being generous! She gives of her time, her talent, and her resources, and never asks for anything in return. Art of the Dress in particular has the other ponies tell her to make sure their dresses stay within their budget, but think about it: she makes ''ten dresses'' for them in total, the ones she designed and the ones that she ''very generously'' made for them even with all their difficult, nitpicky, ridiculous changes. Their budgets obviously could not include two dresses each, or they wouldn't need to specify a budget at all. Rarity ''ate'' the cost in materials and never even mentioned the cost to the others, not to mention she ate the cost in ''time'', too: unlike the others, Rarity is a popular known professional who sells goods she makes by horn and she works alone. Her time is ''extremely valuable'', but she never hesitates to throw all of her effort into making things for her friends (and when she doesn't, she feels ''really bad about it''). Rarity is the ''epitome'' of generosity, you're just not taking into account the worth of the things she gives freely.
* Why is laughter an element of harmony? The rest of the names of the elements produce harmony, but laughter does the opposite (if it's dark laughter), or is produced by harmony (if it's light). IMO courage, trust, or perseverance would be better choices to represent an element.
** Laughter is one of the elements because together they create the Element of Magic. The show's name is "Friendship is Magic" so really, the Element of Magic could equally be referred to as the Element of Friendship (and friendship in turn, is what creates harmony). Therefore, laughter is a perfectly fine element as it's part of what makes a good friendship. In other words, if you can find someone who is honest, loyal, generous, kind and makes you laugh, you have the makings of a good friend.
** While that is true, it is weird by being the only other not plot-related element that's not a character trait. And if you look too much into it, it make the weird implication that friendship is only abut the good moments(sharing laughter) but not about the bad ones(Supporting someone when it's sad). "Empathy" would be a better fit for Pinkie, as all she is about is making other people feel happy, even if she's not always accurate in her approach("A friend in need" "Filli Vanilli")
* Here something I don't get: Rainbow Dash got her cutie mark by flying at high speed, winning a flying race and making the Sonic Rainboom, but when Rarity had RD's cutie mark her swapped task was to control the weather which has nothing to do with RD's cutie mark-earned skills but curiously RD's cutie mark is a cloud with a rainbow lightning which is more related to weather control than to high-speed flying. How could you explain that?
** It's both. Lightning is weather, but it's also referring to ''lightning speed''. Rarity is compelled to do weather control because she's physically incapable of flight.
** With the themes of the episode, I thought not only their cutie marks were traded, but also their "fates", so basically, they traded jobs too, it's just that Rainbow Dash is the one least regarding her talent.
*** They not only traded "fates" to some extent they must have traded history as well. The Apple Farm was a much bigger mess than a couple of hours with Pinky should have produced and one would expect that the Apples and Cakes at the very least would be trying to get their proper pony back not watching the wrong one botch things up.
*** We've seen Spike cause that kind of damage with only a few ''minutes'' back in ''Secret of My Excess'', so it isn't like the orchard being destroying and fixed rapidly is a new idea. Also, ponies literally change the season from winter to spring in the course of a single day. Being able to cause that kind of change in a short time is part of the setting.
*** As for the Cakes... We've seen what kind of trouble Pinkie can cause. Assuming that Pinkie was having one of her friends stand in without warning is not unreasonable.
** It might also be that the change was merely cosmetic; the entire problem was that their "destinies" had been changed without the skill and desire changing with them. I.e. Applejack didn't get any of Rarity's talent or drive, but because she had Rarity's cutie mark, she felt like she had to fill Rarity's ''role''.
** When they swapped cutie marks, they swapped jobs. We never saw them try to explain their cutie marks, but given that the spell didn't give them any job experience, they probably didn't get memories of how they got their swapped marks, either.
* Aside from the fact that a temporary loss of focus would result in falling to your death is there anything stopping unicorns from flying? Twilight can carry and Ursa Minor, with a lot of difficulty but she can do it. Rarity can carry dozens items at the same time as and combined everything she was lifting in "Art of the Dress" must weigh at least as much as a pony. It doesn't look like it's easy long term but it looks more than sufficient for at least limited flight.
** It might be a matter of point of reference; whenever somepony levitates something, it might be in reference to their own location. I.e. when Twilight picks up a rock, the rock's location moves relative to where ''she'' is. Picking up oneself with telekinesis would be like trying to pick yourself up off the ground and float.
*** Unicorn levitation doesn't seem to transfer weight to the unicorn, but holding themself up is probably disorientating. We've only seen a baby having random surges of magic and Twilight Sparkle use auto-levitation, and Twilight didn't do it often.
** Weight and endurance is probably also a concern. Aside from Twilight Sparkle, most unicorns don't carry heavy weights with their magic, and even she doesn't carry things with her magic for long. Only being able to hold themselves in the air for a few seconds, badly, isn't worth the effort in most cases.
* When will the CMC get their cutie marks? I'm tired of having my heart broken every season.
** End of season five, maybe? The writers seem to be in the habit of shaking up the status quo at the end of a season.
* How do you suppose Silver Spoon would look as a senior citizen?
** Presumably like Granny Smith, just differently colored. While they have slowly gotten more body types into the show the vast majority of ponies have identical body types to every other pony in their age group.
* How rare are alicorns? This is partially raised from a headscratcher from Rainbow Rocks and Equestria Girls where Celestia mentions that the princesses take turns guarding the portal mirror. The problem is for the last thousand years there seems to have only been Celestia for MOST of it. Cadence in the flashbacks appears to be a teen when she's foal sitting Twilight so she's probably only a few years older than Twilight. More importantly nobody seems to freak out much over Cadence or Twilight. Which would make sense if alicorns are rare but not very nearly unique. Cadence foal sitting Twilight not seen as particularly special. Certainly not one of (at the time) only two alicorns in the entire world. The other being a thousand plus year old God Princess. If Cadence on the other hand is the first alicorn born in Equestrian history (remember Celestia and Luna came from some other land after the founding of Equestria if the story we heard in Hearth's Warming Eve is accurate) she should be a much much bigger deal than she is.
** It's all but said that Celestia, Luna, Cadance and Twilight Sparkle are the only alicorns in Equestria. (In ''Twilight's Kingdom'' Celestia, Luna and Cadance give their power to Twilight, after which Tirek demands "all the Alicorn magic in Equestria" from
her.) Before that we have word of Faust that originally, Celestia and Luna were planned to be the only alicorns; and even before, we have an introduction video for Princess Celestia, which mistakenly claims that Celestia is the only pony with both wings and horn.
* Where do the sun and moon go exactly when Celestia and Luna aren't using them? Do they just store them?
* Is there any sort of punishment for criminal offenses in Equestria? Ponies seem to forgive a lot and that's why I can let stuff like "Lesson Zero" slide but there are things like what Trixie or Discord had done(After he was brought back to be reformed), that an apology alone wouldn't make better. Considering the society that doesn't seem to be the kind for prisons, the more old timy feel the society also has and that being thrown in a dungeon is treated as an unrealistic panic-induced fear, I would say that likely punishments are community service, public humiliation(like put in pillories or something like that), or CorporalPunishment. Then again, I always felt King Sombra being KilledOffForReal was a premeditated execution based on the fact there is no indication it was an accident.
** I think you're vastly underestimating the power of 'I'm sorry' in a world where everything seems to snap back to normal immediately. Discord and Trixie respectively did nothing that wasn't repaired fully by the end of the episode. In addition it's easy to forget that Discord is incredibly powerful and for the most part seems to be keeping himself in check. It's also often overlooked but all three times Discord has been defeated he wasn't paying attention. He was too busy trolling Celestia and Luna (and might not have known what the Elements were), he literally invited the Mane 6 to hit him with their best shot and Tirek blind sided him. So Discord might get a pass because he's just that powerful.
** Fixing what you did doesn't mean you can forget about it and Discord doesn't always apologize. Plus, this question was more about ''if'', there was a form of punishment for these offenses(considering it would probably never be shown but some would still think that there should be one), what would it be?
* Inconsequential question, but why ''doesn't'' Gummy have any teeth? Is he just a baby alligator or something? I suppose that there are not many canon clues so this is just pure speculation.
** Yes, Pinkie calls him a baby alligator.
* Why are the CMCs trying so hard on looking for their talents to get their cutie marks when foals' cutie marks are actually based in their names? (For instance: Featherweight's one is a feather, Diamond Tiara's one is a tiara with diamonds, Twist's one is a candy cane)
** That's just kind of convenient, ponies as a whole seem to ''usually'' get names and cutie marks that work together but it's far from written in stone.
** The creators seem to be doing this a lot to the background and guest ponies, rather than to the mane ones (for example, Pinkie Pie's cutie mark is neither pink nor of a pie; yet we have ponies like "Sweetie Drops", "Featherweight", "Cherry Jubilee" and "Bulk Biceps"), so perhaps this is true for only a certain fraction of the ponies? Or, as has been speculated, ponies earn a nickname in addition to their real name when they get a cutie mark (e.g. "Golden Harvest" and "Carrot Top").

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1st Apr '16 4:35:44 PM StFan
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** Looking back on this, the latter half definitely gave us a few new antagonists: The Flim-Flam Brothers ("The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000"); the minotaur guy ("Putting Your Hoof Down"); the dragon teenage gang ("Dragon Quest"); Gustave Le Grande, Mulia Mild, and Donut Joe ("MMMystery on the Friendship Express"), and Queen Chrysalis ("A Canterlot Wedding") Some of these guys are antagonists only in that they oppose whatever characters are in the focus that episode though (which would make Cranky Doodle Donkey from "A Friend in Deed" one as well) and are otherwise decent people.

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** Looking back on this, the latter half definitely gave us a few new antagonists: The Flim-Flam Brothers ("The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000"); the minotaur guy ("Putting Your Hoof Down"); the dragon teenage gang ("Dragon Quest"); Gustave Le Grande, Mulia Mild, and Donut Joe ("MMMystery ("[=MMMystery=] on the Friendship Express"), and Queen Chrysalis ("A Canterlot Wedding") Some of these guys are antagonists only in that they oppose whatever characters are in the focus that episode though (which would make Cranky Doodle Donkey from "A Friend in Deed" one as well) and are otherwise decent people.
18th Mar '16 12:28:32 PM SeanRenaud
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* Why doesn't Fluttershy have trouble talking to other sentient species? The dragon in "Dragonshy" was treated like an animal despite his sentience, and she doesn't seem to see Discord or the Breezies as animals but she's still always been comfortable talking to them and even [[spoiler:assuming authority over them]]. What is it about her own species that makes her clam up?

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* Why doesn't Fluttershy have trouble talking to other sentient species? The dragon in "Dragonshy" was treated like an animal despite his sentience, and she doesn't seem to see Discord or the Breezies as animals but she's still always been comfortable talking to them and even [[spoiler:assuming authority over them]]. What is it about her own species that makes her clam up?up?
** Most likely with the arguable exception of Spike who seems to wander this strange line between pet, little brother, indentured servant and friend the animals are not her peers. Even if they are sentient they still don't matter in quite the same way as ponies do. It's like how some children are perfectly chatty with adults but quiet around kids their age. No adult is ever going to invite them to a sleep over or make fun of their braces. Similarly some of those same kids can easily give speeches to large crowds because there is a world of difference between a crowd of largely nobodies watching you and being one on one with Chris. Similarly Fluttershy isn't going to die alone if every dragon on the planet shuns her.
12th Mar '16 2:22:03 AM Boba_Fett88
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** Friendship is Magic. Friendship is not the ability to ''use'' magic. Even if everypony with friends is generating magic, not everyone knows how to use it. Also consider that the most powerful magical items in the setting are powered by or related to friendship. Friendship might be a fundamental or extremely powerful form of magic, which not just anypony can use.

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** Friendship is Magic. Friendship is not the ability to ''use'' magic. Even if everypony with friends is generating magic, not everyone knows how to use it. Also consider that the most powerful magical items in the setting are powered by or related to friendship. Friendship might be a fundamental or extremely powerful form of magic, which not just anypony can use.use.

* Why doesn't Fluttershy have trouble talking to other sentient species? The dragon in "Dragonshy" was treated like an animal despite his sentience, and she doesn't seem to see Discord or the Breezies as animals but she's still always been comfortable talking to them and even [[spoiler:assuming authority over them]]. What is it about her own species that makes her clam up?
2nd Nov '15 1:57:26 PM SeanRenaud
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** I think baby dragons stay with their parents on the mountain.I strongly doubt they carry around baskets for them.It's even more strange because from "Look before you sleep" we know there is another bed in the lybrary.

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** I think baby dragons stay with their parents on the mountain.I strongly doubt they carry around baskets for them.It's even more strange because from "Look before you sleep" we know there is another bed in the lybrary.library.




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** It's not clear how much contact ponies and dragons normally have but it seems to be fairly limited. Enough that even Twilight, the Smart One, didn't head off in DragonQuest with the intention of dealing with the dragon as a sentient being that could be reasoned with. She brought Fluttershy specifically because Fluttershy has a connection to ''animals''. So its possible that either it IS racism/specism on the part of the ponies to mistreat Spike because they simply don't know better or perhaps Spike is special in some way that isn't clearly defined. That same thing that makes Scooby Doo different, it's not that dogs talk in Scooby Doo. They don't and it's never brought up.
2nd Nov '15 7:09:48 AM FF32
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* Why does Spike sleeps in a basket? It gives UnfortunateImplication: he isn't a dog or a cat. A crib would be less insulting.

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* Why does Spike sleeps in a basket? It gives UnfortunateImplication: UnfortunateImplications: he isn't a dog or a cat. A crib would be less insulting.
1st Nov '15 9:43:28 PM Epicazeroth
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* If friendship is magic and everyone can make friends, why can't anyone with friends use magic...? Can only unicorns/alicorns truly befriend anyone? And what does it mean that none of the Elements actually ''do'' anything except the element of Magic?

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* If friendship is magic and everyone can make friends, why can't anyone with friends use magic...? Can only unicorns/alicorns truly befriend anyone? And what does it mean that none of the Elements actually ''do'' anything except the element of Magic?Magic?
** Friendship is Magic. Friendship is not the ability to ''use'' magic. Even if everypony with friends is generating magic, not everyone knows how to use it. Also consider that the most powerful magical items in the setting are powered by or related to friendship. Friendship might be a fundamental or extremely powerful form of magic, which not just anypony can use.
25th Oct '15 10:39:13 AM PurpleAlert
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* Am I the only one that thinks the Earth Ponies are getting shafted for representation in the royalty? I know unicorns are meant to be Equestria's elite, but if it's not to present them as being all three Pony types in one body, why does a princess ''have'' to be an Alicorn? If a Pegasus had all the necessary qualities to be a princess, would Celestia give her a horn? If it was an Earth Pony, would Celestia give her a horn ''and'' wings? Or is magic ability the cornerstone of high authority in Equestria and no one ''but'' a

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* Am I the only one that thinks the Earth Ponies are getting shafted for representation in the royalty? I know unicorns are meant to be Equestria's elite, but if it's not to present them as being all three Pony types in one body, why does a princess ''have'' to be an Alicorn? If a Pegasus had all the necessary qualities to be a princess, would Celestia give her a horn? If it was an Earth Pony, would Celestia give her a horn ''and'' wings? Or friendship is magic ability and everyone can make friends, why can't anyone with friends use magic...? Can only unicorns/alicorns truly befriend anyone? And what does it mean that none of the cornerstone Elements actually ''do'' anything except the element of high authority in Equestria and no one ''but'' aMagic?
25th Oct '15 10:31:56 AM PurpleAlert
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**** Some kids (like this troper) lose their parents when they're young. While the audience might find it interesting to know, it's not being disingenuous for the show not to discuss it beyond "Yes, Applejack's parents died. Sometimes that happens, and the chance for them to meet new people, and for new people to meet them, is unfortunately gone." It happened, it's sad, but unless they actually want to discuss death, it doesn't need to be treated as something that absolutely must be examined just because it was mentioned. You're basically saying "I was told there was a death, therefore I was promised a corpse."
19th Oct '15 12:33:04 PM SeanRenaud
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** Because it would probably seem a little weird. The CMC already kinda come off as the Mane6 Gen2 and mising half the team without them actually being the next generation. Also the three pairs actually work out well. You have Rarity and Sweetie Belle who are real sisters and have real sister issues. Apple Jack and Apple Bloom who pretty much always get along and are 'ideal' sisters and then you have Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo who are clearly share a sisterly bond that goes beyond blood ties.
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