History Headscratchers / Mother3

2nd May '17 5:16:13 PM spiderfreak1011
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*** ''Claus'' had a heart. The Masked Man didn't. Between [[spoiler:Lucas and Hinawa's ghost's efforts, he regained lucidity for a few moments and killed himself; if he hadn't he'd have gone back to being a heartless machine.]]

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*** ''Claus'' had a heart. The Masked Man didn't. They aren't saying the Masked Man literally has no heart, he's just been brain washed into being Porky's slave without any free will of his own. He was literally just a robot that used to be Human. And since Claus in this state had his original personality completely pushed down and nearly erased, Claus's heart/soul would be undetectable by the dragon, and the lack of soul would be reflected in the Dragon and result in the destruction of the world. Between [[spoiler:Lucas and Hinawa's ghost's efforts, he regained lucidity for a few moments and killed himself; if it could've been because his break from mind control wasn't temporary or because he hadn't he'd have gone back felt the guilt of his actions, or even because he wanted to being a heartless machine.join Hinawa in death. Regardless, he made it so Lucas was the only one who could pull it at that point, instead of someone like him he had lost his own sense of self for years.]]
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** She's about Adolescent Lucas's height even when she's a "Kid" pre-timeskip, so it's safe to say she's at least 12 or older if we can assume Lucas post time skip is around the same age as Ness and Ninten in their games. And given that she could just barely be of age to work at Club Titiboo, it's likely that Pre-Timeskip she was 14, and Post-Timeskip she's 17. Would definitely fit pretty well in the age gap between Lucas and Duster, given Duster seems to be at least in his 20s.




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** Not to mention, you know, considering Lucas can attack Masked Man without hesitation right after he knocks out Flint, it's safe to say [[BeserkerTears healing his dad was the least of his worries at the time.]]




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** Also probably a case of StoryAndGameplaySegregation. Alot of bosses usually say "But [Boney] didn't smell anything." because they don't have a clear cut weakness, and that's what Masked Man had. Plus, the game already has a ton of foreshadowing with the plot twist of the Masked Man's identity, adding in another one isn't really needed if the rest of the foreshadowing can't clue people in.



** I like to think of the reason for Masked Man just waiting at the Final Needle as two possibilities.
*** Maybe some small remnant of whatever was left of [[spoiler: Claus inside of Masked Man]] kept him waiting for Lucas, perhaps as one last small part of him hoping for Lucas to come and stop him, and pull the needle first. Sure, it's not likely due to how he was Brainwashed as well as likely Memory Wiped, but considering how [[spoiler: Hinawa was able to snap Claus out of his brainwashing and get him to remember who he was]], that definitely means that [[spoiler: Claus had to have still been in there deep down for Hinawa to reach him to begin with]], so it's not impossible that part of him was keeping Masked Man there and preventing him from pulling the needle.

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** I like to think of the reason for Masked Man just waiting at the Final Needle as two possibilities.
*** Maybe
is because some small remnant of whatever was left of [[spoiler: Claus inside of Masked Man]] kept him waiting for Lucas, perhaps as one last small part of him hoping for Lucas to come and stop him, and pull the needle first. Sure, it's not likely due to how he was Brainwashed as well as likely Memory Wiped, but considering how [[spoiler: Hinawa was able to snap Claus out of his brainwashing and get him to remember who he was]], that definitely means that [[spoiler: Claus had to have still been in there deep down for Hinawa to reach him to begin with]], so it's not impossible that part of him was keeping Masked Man there and preventing him from pulling the needle.
28th Feb '17 4:45:58 PM spiderfreak1011
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** I like to think of the reason for Masked Man just waiting at the Final Needle as two possibilities.
*** Maybe some small remnant of whatever was left of [[spoiler: Claus inside of Masked Man]] kept him waiting for Lucas, perhaps as one last small part of him hoping for Lucas to come and stop him, and pull the needle first. Sure, it's not likely due to how he was Brainwashed as well as likely Memory Wiped, but considering how [[spoiler: Hinawa was able to snap Claus out of his brainwashing and get him to remember who he was]], that definitely means that [[spoiler: Claus had to have still been in there deep down for Hinawa to reach him to begin with]], so it's not impossible that part of him was keeping Masked Man there and preventing him from pulling the needle.
*** The other possibility is that Porky told Masked Man to wait there on his orders to await Lucas and company in the chance that he somehow failed to stop them, and since Porky definitely knew the true identity of Masked Man, it's possible he left him there to fight the party in order to [[spoiler: torture Lucas by having him fighting his own brother to save the world.]]
1st Jan '17 5:29:28 PM Sammettik
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* Is Kumatora a girl? I know most people use 'her' and 'she', but thing is... she's raised by the Magypsees. And her design does looks a bit gender neutral.

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* Is Kumatora a girl? I know most people use 'her' and 'she', but thing is... she's raised by the Magypsees. Magypsies. And her design does looks a bit gender neutral.neutral.
** Being raised by the Magypsies is [[FridgeBrilliance likely the very reason she looks so gender-neutral]].
30th Dec '16 8:37:14 PM Pikatwig
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* Can of worms time: Why is Fassad Arab? These are the Nowhere Islands, there's no Middle East, there's no Scaraba, just a desert unreachable from any point in the game that smacks of a last-minute disconnected design area, [[spoiler: and given that Fassad is a Magypsy he can't be one of the people Porky imported in.]] It's not the pun -- that was the localization, his original name was Yokuba. His being [[spoiler: Locria]] doesn't clear anything up -- some people have suggested that it's a reference to [[spoiler: the Locrian mode]] being considered Middle Eastern, but it's not -- that's [[spoiler: the Phrygian mode]]. The only explanation left is that he's supposed to play upon the trope of the suspicious if not downright evil foreign peddler coming into a village and corrupting it, which has, to say the least, UnfortunateImplications.

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* Can of worms time: Why is Fassad Arab? These are the Nowhere Islands, there's no Middle East, there's no Scaraba, just a desert unreachable from any point in the game that smacks of a last-minute disconnected design area, [[spoiler: and given that Fassad is a Magypsy he can't be one of the people Porky imported in.]] It's not the pun -- that was the localization, his original name was Yokuba. His being [[spoiler: Locria]] doesn't clear anything up -- some people have suggested that it's a reference to [[spoiler: the Locrian mode]] being considered Middle Eastern, but it's not -- that's [[spoiler: the Phrygian mode]]. The only explanation left is that he's supposed to play upon the trope of the suspicious if not downright evil foreign peddler coming into a village and corrupting it, which has, to say the least, UnfortunateImplications.UnfortunateImplications.
* Is Kumatora a girl? I know most people use 'her' and 'she', but thing is... she's raised by the Magypsees. And her design does looks a bit gender neutral.
6th Dec '16 7:08:36 PM nightelf37
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** [[WMG?{{MOTHER3}} There've been theories that the Dr. Andonuts we see here is actually Jeff from the previous game]]. They share the same last name after all, being family.
4th Dec '16 1:53:31 PM tropette
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** The other Magypsies aren't troubled at all by the prospect of fading away. Why would Locria be any different?
22nd Oct '16 2:21:34 PM tropette
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*** Not to mention traumatized from the trip on the island. Which probably got a hell of a lot more traumatizing once Claus ''actually'' showed up.
2nd Oct '16 8:03:12 AM tropette
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** Who says he knew Alpha? Aeolia just gave him "a powerful PSI technique," she didn't say which one, and if it was Alpha she'd probably be a lot more impressed.
30th Sep '16 5:38:33 PM tropette
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** Not quite -- [[spoiler: Porky]] says that they helped make the [[spoiler: Absolutely Safe Capsule]] in the end of the game.

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** Not quite -- [[spoiler: Porky]] says that they helped make the [[spoiler: Absolutely Safe Capsule]] in the end of the game.game.
* Can of worms time: Why is Fassad Arab? These are the Nowhere Islands, there's no Middle East, there's no Scaraba, just a desert unreachable from any point in the game that smacks of a last-minute disconnected design area, [[spoiler: and given that Fassad is a Magypsy he can't be one of the people Porky imported in.]] It's not the pun -- that was the localization, his original name was Yokuba. His being [[spoiler: Locria]] doesn't clear anything up -- some people have suggested that it's a reference to [[spoiler: the Locrian mode]] being considered Middle Eastern, but it's not -- that's [[spoiler: the Phrygian mode]]. The only explanation left is that he's supposed to play upon the trope of the suspicious if not downright evil foreign peddler coming into a village and corrupting it, which has, to say the least, UnfortunateImplications.
30th Sep '16 5:25:44 PM tropette
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** No one said it was the same [[spoiler: Saturn Valley]], or that the Pigmasks used the [[spoiler: Mr. Saturns]] to make technology. They only needed them to tell them where the [[spoiler: Needle]] is.

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** No one said it was the same [[spoiler: Saturn Valley]], or that the Pigmasks used the [[spoiler: Mr. Saturns]] to make technology. They only needed them to tell them where the [[spoiler: Needle]] is.is.
** Not quite -- [[spoiler: Porky]] says that they helped make the [[spoiler: Absolutely Safe Capsule]] in the end of the game.
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