History Headscratchers / MinorityReport

3rd Dec '16 10:06:18 PM TheRoguePenguin
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** Remember that Anderton has been the top story on the news for multiple days now. We see him appear on the front page of a newspaper mere minutes after he runs. So, if the head of pre crime is not only a suspect for a murder himself, but has successfully been evading a manhunt for three full days, it's going to make most peoplse a little less confident in the system. Doubly so when the gun comes out.

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** Remember that Anderton has been the top story on the news for multiple days now. We see him appear on the front page of a newspaper mere minutes after he runs. So, if the head of pre crime is not only a suspect for a murder himself, but has successfully been evading a manhunt for three full days, it's going to make most peoplse people a little less confident in the system. Doubly so when the gun comes out.
3rd Dec '16 11:36:42 AM AbnormalMoose
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*** Say it with me, person: That's what Precrime says the precogs see. And Precrime kind of has a vested interest in claiming the precogs are infallible. The movie does, in fact, contain proof that the precogs are fallible and thus the claim that they objectively see the future is, to put it bluntly, bullshit.
3rd Dec '16 11:31:34 AM AbnormalMoose
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*** Except they didn't attempt a murder, that was the whole point of the fascist dream of Precrime, catching people before they attempt murder. They're incarcerating people for crimes they hadn't committed, and doing it without a trial, because they had "evidence" they were ''probably'' going to commit a crime.
3rd Dec '16 11:23:53 AM AbnormalMoose
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** It essentially all comes down to whether you believe in fascism or freedom. A fascist believes that when the government has enough proof to suit the government's own standards that you are going to be a detriment to the government's order in some fashion (such as attempting murder), then the government is justified in doing whatever it likes to keep order (such as imprisoning you forever). Someone who believes in freedom prefers to judge and punish people on what they do, rather than what they might do.



** It essentially all comes down to whether you believe in fascism or freedom. A fascist believes that when the government has enough proof to suit the government's own standards that you are going to be a detriment to the government's order in some fashion (such as attempting murder), then the government is justified in doing whatever it likes to keep order (such as imprisoning you forever). Someone who believes in freedom prefers to judge and punish people on what they do, rather than what they might do.

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** It essentially all comes down to whether you believe in fascism or freedom. A fascist believes that when the government has enough proof to suit the government's own standards that you are going to be a detriment to the government's order in some fashion (such as attempting murder), then the government is justified in doing whatever it likes to keep order (such as imprisoning you forever). Someone who believes in freedom prefers to judge and punish people on what they do, rather than what they might do.
3rd Dec '16 11:22:15 AM AbnormalMoose
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** It essentially all comes down to whether you believe in fascism or freedom. A fascist believes that when the government has enough proof to suit the government's own standards that you are going to be a detriment to the government's order in some fashion (such as attempting murder), then the government is justified in doing whatever it likes to keep order (such as imprisoning you forever). Someone who believes in freedom prefers to judge and punish people on what they do, rather than what they might do.
14th Sep '16 3:06:00 PM benda
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*** Regarding that, this troper thinks that leaving rotten food in the fridge next to the healthy one wasn't exactly unintentional either - more like a RussianRoulette, only with much lower stakes.
1st Aug '16 1:44:18 PM Lawyerdude
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** Yep. They're slaves. And since they're also orphaned children of drug addicts, they don't have any family who can raise a fuss. Early on Anderton even says "It's easier if you don't think of them as human." What's really disturbing is that it seems everybody at Precrime knows this, but ''nobody cares''.
15th Jul '16 10:34:43 PM Sharlee
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** FWIW, the TV series dealt with this by indicating that the precogs had no idea how long they've been in the milk bath. They were told they'd be going in for a brief test, were put into a trance in which they had no consciousness of time's passage, and were kept in that state for a decade without respite.
15th Jul '16 10:20:53 PM Sharlee
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** Even if the Pre-Crime cops are as incompetent about post-death investigations as implied, surely they could tap resources from one of the ''non-homicide'' police divisions to process the crime scene. Presumably there are still regular cops on call to handle property crimes and non-fatal offenses against persons, who rely on good old-fashioned evidence rather than psychic visions. Heck, medical examiners will still be called upon to tell accidental firearm-discharge apart from suicide, so the autopsy would resolve the issue.

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** Even if the Pre-Crime cops are as incompetent about post-death investigations as implied, surely they could tap resources from one of the ''non-homicide'' police divisions to process the crime scene. Presumably there are still regular cops on call to handle property crimes and non-fatal offenses against persons, who rely on good old-fashioned evidence rather than psychic visions. Heck, Likewise, medical examiners will still be called upon to tell accidental firearm-discharge apart from suicide, so the autopsy would could help resolve the issue.
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