History Headscratchers / Metalocalypse

22nd May '16 7:11:21 PM spirasen
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* Why the hell did they hold their CD release party at Mordhaus? I know it's pretty much the safest place for Dethklok to be, but not when they're a) going to be entertaining a couple hundred people and b) when Ofdensen ''knows'' they're going to be attacked! They can obviously afford some pretty extreme security measures. Why not hold the party somewhere more public and then, should the security measures fail, Dethklok would still have a home and safehaven to escape to? I think it's the only time in the series when Ofdensen grabs hold of the IdiotBall and it irks me no end.
** Offdensen had no way of knowing the Revengencers, a group of brainwhashed Metal fans led by a cripple, crazy old assassin and a teen suffering ptsd would cook up a freaking [[SuperweaponSurprise Sonic Weapon]]. Considering that Mordhaus has force fields and god-damn anti-missile flying deth-spiders, I'd say it was the safest place in the world.

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* Why the hell did they hold their CD release party at Mordhaus? I know it's pretty much the safest place for Dethklok to be, but not when they're a) going to be entertaining a couple hundred people and b) when Ofdensen Offdensen ''knows'' they're going to be attacked! They can obviously afford some pretty extreme security measures. Why not hold the party somewhere more public and then, should the security measures fail, Dethklok would still have a home and safehaven to escape to? I think it's the only time in the series when Ofdensen Offdensen grabs hold of the IdiotBall and it irks me no end.
** Offdensen had no way of knowing the Revengencers, a group of brainwhashed brainwashed Metal fans led by a cripple, crazy old assassin and a teen suffering ptsd PTSD would cook up a freaking [[SuperweaponSurprise Sonic Weapon]]. Considering that Mordhaus has force fields and god-damn anti-missile flying deth-spiders, I'd say it was the safest place in the world.



** We don't know exactly how savvy the Blues Devil was at his own contracts. For all we know, it could have been filled with loophole after loophole. Plus, the B.D. had nothing against Dethklok, he just wanted business. Damien on the other hand, hated the band, especially Nathan, and probably had his lawyer staff go over the new contract until it was nigh airtight. Thus, Nathan's problems, even when near signing it near the end, before being saved by [[spoiler: Ofdensen.]]

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** We don't know exactly how savvy the Blues Devil was at his own contracts. For all we know, it could have been filled with loophole after loophole. Plus, the B.D. had nothing against Dethklok, he just wanted business. Damien on the other hand, hated the band, especially Nathan, and probably had his lawyer staff go over the new contract until it was nigh airtight. Thus, Nathan's problems, even when near signing it near the end, before being saved by [[spoiler: Ofdensen.Offdensen.]]



*** They're also rather shaken up from the loss of Ofdensen, and probably not on top of their game.

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*** They're also rather shaken up from the loss of Ofdensen, Offdensen, and probably not on top of their game.



** He probably didn't actually make those, it was just a thing his PR lady arranged. A lot of celebrities have that kind of thing, to varying degrees of success and legitimacy. (Margaret Cho's "Chow Like Cho" bit illustrates it nicely.)

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** He probably didn't actually make those, it was just a thing his PR lady arranged. A lot of celebrities have that kind of thing, to varying degrees of success and legitimacy. (Margaret Cho's (Creator/MargaretCho's "Chow Like Cho" bit illustrates it nicely.)



* Are their servants called Gears or Klokateers? In ''Dethsources,'' Ofdensen calls them Klokateers, but "The Gears" calls them [[TitleDrop Gears.]]

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* Are their servants called Gears or Klokateers? In ''Dethsources,'' Ofdensen Offdensen calls them Klokateers, but "The Gears" calls them [[TitleDrop Gears.]]



** The dude with the beard? I thought that was a younger Toki....

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** The dude with the beard? I thought that was a younger Toki....Toki...



* Allowing for the possibility that making a super-user friendly ultra-versatile drum machine always crosses the line into making it self-aware,Why did the manufacturer install a ten-thousand megaton self-destruct system? Or any self-destruct system,for that matter?

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* Allowing for the possibility that making a super-user friendly ultra-versatile drum machine always crosses the line into making it self-aware,Why self-aware, why did the manufacturer install a ten-thousand megaton self-destruct system? Or any self-destruct system,for system, for that matter?



** It isn't metal unless you risk the chance of dying from it. See also: The Kloakateers's quarters.

* In the latest episode, Ofdensen is trying to whip up a media promotional storm to get Zazz Blammymatazz back on top. But if that was the case, how did he let that one interviewer bring up the whole pedophile business with Rockso if the idea was to get tickets sold?
** He's only going along with it because it's Toki (because if Nathan's the TeamDad and Ofdensen's the TeamMom, then Toki is certainly the baby of the family), but honestly, he doesn't give a shit about it either.

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** It isn't metal unless you risk the chance of dying from it. See also: The Kloakateers's Klokateers' quarters.

* In the latest episode, Ofdensen Offdensen is trying to whip up a media promotional storm to get Zazz Blammymatazz back on top. But if that was the case, how did he let that one interviewer bring up the whole pedophile business with Rockso if the idea was to get tickets sold?
** He's only going along with it because it's Toki (because if Nathan's the TeamDad and Ofdensen's Offdensen's the TeamMom, then Toki is certainly the baby of the family), but honestly, he doesn't give a shit about it either.



** BOO! IncrediblyLamePun! But seriously, some percentage of time. The rest of the time it's Steak Time.

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** BOO! IncrediblyLamePun! [[{{Pun}} Incredibly Lame Pun!]] But seriously, some percentage of time. The rest of the time it's Steak Time.



** In the Doomstar Requiem we find out that he's able to match skwisgarr quite well and helps him (swis) 'improve' his playing. Toki also plays keyboard in some songs (videos) and does backup vocals (also can be heard in some songs). He's very far from being the load, like his profile suggests.

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** In the Doomstar Requiem we find out that he's able to match skwisgarr Skwisgaar quite well and helps him (swis) (Skwis) 'improve' his playing. Toki also plays keyboard in some songs (videos) and does backup vocals (also can be heard in some songs). He's very far from being the load, like his profile suggests.



** No, you are not. In fact there seems to be a clear writing difference in the last two seasons of the show. In the first two seasons, the music industry/corporate music world itself and the executive mismanagment seems to be the target of most of the satire and craziness going on. There is a lot of characterization in a short amount of time, and the personalities of each character are very nicely done withing the span of one episode. We basically learn something new about someone in each episode, and that kept it entertaining, along with the seriousness of the Myth Arc, with the band's hedonism kept as a funny background role. The themes of the last two seasons almost totally revolve around girls/pure hedonism in one shape or another, with the longer episodes filled with pretty much non-characterization filler stuff rather than interesting new information. Lastly, to me, Abigail is positively jackhammered into the last part of the story arc and into Doomstar Requiem. There are many hints in the text of previous seasons to me that she didn't even seem to originally be intended to be written in there.

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** No, you are not. In fact there seems to be a clear writing difference in the last two seasons of the show. In the first two seasons, the music industry/corporate music world itself and the executive mismanagment mismanagement seems to be the target of most of the satire and craziness going on. There is a lot of characterization in a short amount of time, and the personalities of each character are very nicely done withing the span of one episode. We basically learn something new about someone in each episode, and that kept it entertaining, along with the seriousness of the Myth Arc, with the band's hedonism kept as a funny background role. The themes of the last two seasons almost totally revolve around girls/pure hedonism in one shape or another, with the longer episodes filled with pretty much non-characterization filler stuff rather than interesting new information. Lastly, to me, Abigail is positively jackhammered into the last part of the story arc and into Doomstar Requiem. There are many hints in the text of previous seasons to me that she didn't even seem to originally be intended to be written in there.



** They can be trusted. But as Fertilityklok and Renovationklok showed, Murderface can't be trusted to keep his [[IncrediblyLamePun hands to himself]] when he has any kind of authority over a female and god knows what the guys who can get girls would do. I doubt Offdensen would want to risk more sexual harassment lawsuits.

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** They can be trusted. But as Fertilityklok and Renovationklok showed, Murderface can't be trusted to keep his [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} hands to himself]] when he has any kind of authority over a female and god knows what the guys who can get girls would do. I doubt Offdensen would want to risk more sexual harassment lawsuits.



** The series has definitely [[GrowingtheBeard evolved]] since the show started six years ago, with character development and the plot steadily becoming more refined. However even in-universe, despite the growing divide between seasons it's explainable. Consider three factors: A) The inherent selfishness of the individual members; B) Their fear of death as established in Hamburger Time; C) Apologizing isn't metal, and feelings are gay. It's one thing to constantly do things that pisses your friend off when it serves your own needs and interests, especially in a setting where all your friends are doing the same thing and you've agreed not to give a f[[SoundEffectBleep *guitar riff*]], and entirely another thing when you almost cause the death of a friend. Nathan might not have seen that he did anything wrong with destroying the Master Track and semi-sexing up their manager, and didn't really care about what Pickles thought until it threatened to break the band apart and he saw just how much it affected him, and by extension the rest of the band. Nathan is a decent guy despite the sadism, but remember that he lives and breathes metal. He has to keep public appearances up, despite being a completely different person privately. He still visibly cares about his bandmates, and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold shows his bandmates he cares]], but the rest of the world can't know this. He realized he'd wronged Pickles by being selfish, not by accident like with Murderface (who, I'll remind you didn't get angry or upset, probably pushing Nathan to react for him), and let's face it, Pickles is pretty much his best friend. Just saying "I'm sorry" in private like he did with the consequences surrounding Murderface just wasn't going to cut it. This was a massive, massive ordeal. The band was breaking up over this, potentially crippling the world's economy and countless fans watching and waiting for an explanation. It's counterintuitive to the direction of his entire public life, but he needed to do this totally un-metal thing with everyone in the world watching and judging. As for the puking up blood, remember, Nathan isn't in the best shape of his life. He needs a liver transplant every week, and him vomiting blood is a running gag on the show. The strain of the apology was probably too much for him, but it's not out of the ordinary. They even wrote a song called Blood Puke based on it.

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** The series has definitely [[GrowingtheBeard [[GrowingTheBeard evolved]] since the show started six years ago, with character development and the plot steadily becoming more refined. However even in-universe, despite the growing divide between seasons it's explainable. Consider three factors: A) The inherent selfishness of the individual members; B) Their fear of death as established in Hamburger Time; C) Apologizing isn't metal, and feelings are gay. It's one thing to constantly do things that pisses your friend off when it serves your own needs and interests, especially in a setting where all your friends are doing the same thing and you've agreed not to give a f[[SoundEffectBleep *guitar riff*]], and entirely another thing when you almost cause the death of a friend. Nathan might not have seen that he did anything wrong with destroying the Master Track and semi-sexing up their manager, and didn't really care about what Pickles thought until it threatened to break the band apart and he saw just how much it affected him, and by extension the rest of the band. Nathan is a decent guy despite the sadism, but remember that he lives and breathes metal. He has to keep public appearances up, despite being a completely different person privately. He still visibly cares about his bandmates, and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold shows his bandmates he cares]], but the rest of the world can't know this. He realized he'd wronged Pickles by being selfish, not by accident like with Murderface (who, I'll remind you didn't get angry or upset, probably pushing Nathan to react for him), and let's face it, Pickles is pretty much his best friend. Just saying "I'm sorry" in private like he did with the consequences surrounding Murderface just wasn't going to cut it. This was a massive, massive ordeal. The band was breaking up over this, potentially crippling the world's economy and countless fans watching and waiting for an explanation. It's counterintuitive to the direction of his entire public life, but he needed to do this totally un-metal thing with everyone in the world watching and judging. As for the puking up blood, remember, Nathan isn't in the best shape of his life. He needs a liver transplant every week, and him vomiting blood is a running gag on the show. The strain of the apology was probably too much for him, but it's not out of the ordinary. They even wrote a song called Blood Puke based on it.



** Don't forget Offdensen allowed the boys to go on a sort of "detoxifying" vacation in Dethhealth where instead of relaxing and cooling it on the substances and such they instead got COMPLETELY wasted (including, funnily enough, Toki's cat as Pickles was pouring Jager into a bowl for him), drugged up, and even injured as they crashed their jet skis onto the deck of a yacht. While he probably should have warned her/seen it coming, there's no accounting sometimes for the amount of disasters Dethklok can get themselves into (plus, I get the feeling that neither one probably expected them to go to a war-torn country for a vacation, but then again, that wouldn't be as metal, now would it?).

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** Don't forget Offdensen allowed the boys to go on a sort of "detoxifying" vacation in Dethhealth where instead of relaxing and cooling it on the substances and such they instead got COMPLETELY wasted (including, funnily enough, Toki's cat as Pickles was pouring Jager Jäger into a bowl for him), drugged up, and even injured as they crashed their jet skis onto the deck of a yacht. While he probably should have warned her/seen it coming, there's no accounting sometimes for the amount of disasters Dethklok can get themselves into (plus, I get the feeling that neither one probably expected them to go to a war-torn country for a vacation, but then again, that wouldn't be as metal, now would it?).
16th Dec '15 12:00:35 PM FF32
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*** So what's with the hat? Catholics do not dress that way. [[YouFailReligiousStudiesForever GOODNIGHT!]]

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*** So what's with the hat? Catholics do not dress that way. [[YouFailReligiousStudiesForever [[ArtisticLicenseReligion GOODNIGHT!]]
24th Aug '15 7:10:46 PM artisanrox
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**No, you are not. In fact there seems to be a clear writing difference in the last two seasons of the show. In the first two seasons, the music industry/corporate music world itself and the executive mismanagment seems to be the target of most of the satire and craziness going on. There is a lot of characterization in a short amount of time, and the personalities of each character are very nicely done withing the span of one episode. We basically learn something new about someone in each episode, and that kept it entertaining, along with the seriousness of the Myth Arc, with the band's hedonism kept as a funny background role. The themes of the last two seasons almost totally revolve around girls/pure hedonism in one shape or another, with the longer episodes filled with pretty much non-characterization filler stuff rather than interesting new information. Lastly, to me, Abigail is positively jackhammered into the last part of the story arc and into Doomstar Requiem. There are many hints in the text of previous seasons to me that she didn't even seem to originally be intended to be written in there.
28th May '15 6:00:39 PM EgoProxy
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*** Of course he didn't accept the deal. It's the frickin' Devil, he ''doesn't'' negotiate. The entire point of the Faustian deal is that it's never a truly fair one. Once B.D. realizes he can't screw the band over that way, he bails.
16th Mar '15 10:38:38 AM nombretomado
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** There's a recent episode of {{Futurama}} that had Bender powered by a doomsday device. Maybe it's the same thing?

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** There's a recent episode of {{Futurama}} {{WesternAnimation/Futurama}} that had Bender powered by a doomsday device. Maybe it's the same thing?
15th Oct '14 2:23:33 PM Devitron5000
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*** Believe it or not, this is TruthInTelevision. Being from Wisconsin myself, I know for a fact that this is the one Midwestern state where a fair amount of people say "soda." In fact, asking for a "pop" in Milwaukee will usually get you asked where you're from.
2nd Mar '14 5:26:21 PM Ometta6
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** Considering how he was [[ArchEnemy right near Offdensen when he got arrowed by the Teenager]], chances are he was probably too distracted by his downed and vulnerable nemesis to see either Salacia or Crozier.
30th Jan '14 3:22:57 PM knockoutmouse
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**** While it may vary by region within the Midwest, I've known a fair number of people here who say "soda" or who use the two terms interchangeably.
19th Nov '13 10:55:52 PM RavenWilder
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** It's worth remembering, while Dethklok rewrote their contract with the Blues Devil to highly favor them, the Blues Devil ''didn't accept the deal'', which actually counts as pretty poor contract negotiation.
31st Oct '13 8:14:07 PM superidiotman00
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** Toki and Skwisgaar were only a few yards away from the Assassin and Offdensen, they most likely were in earshot.

* The Metal Masked Assassin was right near Offdensen when he got arrowed by the Teenager, so shouldn't he also have witnessed Salacia brainwashing Crozier?
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