History Headscratchers / MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty

20th Mar '17 9:23:55 AM Raxis
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** The Colonel actually rules out melee combat as an option if you call him after trying and failing to shoot her. Presumably, it's just too dangerous to try running at her when she's firing a railgun at you.
21st Jan '17 9:22:20 AM Dragon101
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** Honestly, it doesn't seem like ''anybody'' recognises Solidus as the former President. Almost no character comments on it; all everyone cares about is whether or not he is Solid Snake- the hostage Richard Ames calls him "Snake" and neither Solid nor Otacon point out that this guy looks REALLY familiar. It isn't until we meet President Johnson that we learn the guy we've been fighting is his predecessor and even then, nobody seems surprised that they didn't recognise him all this time. To put this in perspective, the plot of the game is basically that Bill Clinton has become a terrorist, seized control of a oil cleaning facility and taken George W. Bush and much of his staff hostage with the help of Russian mercenaries and a renegade US Special Forces team... and everyone just rolls with it. It's...more than a bit weird.
30th Dec '16 8:16:22 AM Jgorgon
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** So, the question Ocelot ''thinks'' the Patriots want answered is: could ''anyone'' have survived Shadow Moses? Did we need to send a legendary soldier, or did the nature of the situation itself memetically create a perfect soldier? The real question the Patriots are asking is much more complicated and postmodern, though.
30th Dec '16 7:55:59 AM Jgorgon
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*** Even if it's in Ocelot's voice, who else could Snake have possibly thought it was? Do other characters refer to Snake as "Brrrrrrrother!!!"?
30th Dec '16 7:51:52 AM Jgorgon
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*** What about his nanomachines allowed him to run vertically up walls, then? Or spin so fast he deflects bullets? I think it's pretty clear that as of GOP he's a vampire who also has nanomachines.


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*** When you cross back over the bridge from the Shell 2 core with Emma, someone's helpfully added replacement panels which allow her to cross. Maybe someone did the same to the Shell 1 core.
30th Dec '16 7:44:51 AM Jgorgon
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** Also, the first hour or so of the Plant chapter is a tutorial for new players, whereas the Tanker chapter only bothers teaching the player new moves debuting in this game, and assumes they know the basics of MGS gameplay. The plot does the same thing; there's none of the AsYouKnow that the Plant chapter has.
30th Dec '16 2:17:13 AM M3
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** Or, considering if the Patriots are manipulating everything; they probably manipulated the reports that the gun isn't ready for combat, yet had one that was perfectly operational and she had the first and only working model.
26th Oct '16 1:13:53 PM Jgorgon
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** And bear in mind it's been established that within the games' universe, realistic masks indistinguishable from a real face have been around since at least the 1960s, and since Olga is seen wearing a cyborg-ninja suit that gives her masculine features, it's not far fetched for someone in-universe to suspect that what looks like a male is really a disguised female.

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** And bear in mind it's been established that within the games' universe, realistic masks almost indistinguishable from a real face have been around since at least the 1960s, and since Olga is seen wearing a cyborg-ninja suit that gives her masculine features, it's not far fetched for someone in-universe to suspect that what looks like a male is really a disguised female.
26th Oct '16 1:06:08 PM Jgorgon
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*** The above troper is correct; furthermore, it's not even a tactic unique to ''MGS2'''s storytelling; see also ''BioShock'', ''Spec Ops: The Line'', ''Shadow of the Colossus'', ''BioShock Infinite''...
18th Oct '16 4:51:55 PM dlchen145
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* Are there other members of Philanthropy besides Snake and Otacon? If there are, why the hell aren't they ever seen or mentioned? As {{Badass}} as Snake is, he can't be two places at once. If he really wanted to shut down every Metal Gear on Earth, you'd think he'd look for some help. In any case, it seems like he'd need to get more members if he wanted to get recognition from the UN. To the UN, one field agent doesn't look like an organized group...it just looks like a lone terrorist. And if there are more members of Philanthropy, then what happened to the organization after Snake faked his death?

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* Are there other members of Philanthropy besides Snake and Otacon? If there are, why the hell aren't they ever seen or mentioned? As {{Badass}} badass as Snake is, he can't be two places at once. If he really wanted to shut down every Metal Gear on Earth, you'd think he'd look for some help. In any case, it seems like he'd need to get more members if he wanted to get recognition from the UN. To the UN, one field agent doesn't look like an organized group...it just looks like a lone terrorist. And if there are more members of Philanthropy, then what happened to the organization after Snake faked his death?
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