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17th Apr '16 12:12:34 AM finalfaw
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** I believe that #1 was gaming night.
12th Apr '16 8:48:42 AM Discar
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*** She seems to be overcompensating now, seeing as the latest chapters have [[spoiler:Gary getting pegged]] Hell if you read SDB its shows that even [[spoiler:Jung]] isn't even fully straight, Im guessing banging a [[spoiler:Hermaphrodite]] makes you Bi or something, not being offensive I just honestly don't know the term.

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*** ** She seems to be overcompensating now, seeing as the latest chapters have [[spoiler:Gary getting pegged]] Hell if you read SDB its shows that even [[spoiler:Jung]] isn't even fully straight, Im guessing banging a [[spoiler:Hermaphrodite]] makes you Bi or something, not being offensive I just honestly don't know the term.
12th Apr '16 4:40:51 AM finalfaw
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*** She seems to be overcompensating now, seeing as the latest chapters have [[spoiler:Gary getting pegged]] Hell if you read SDB its shows that even [[spoiler:Jung]] isn't even fully straight, Im guessing banging a [[spoiler:Hermaphrodite]] makes you Bi or something, not being offensive I just honestly don't know the term.
22nd Mar '16 9:56:55 AM SeanRenaud
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** A lot of real life problems could be solved if people were less interested in the feelings of others and gave a ReasonYouSuckSpeech instead of grinning and bearing it. With the possibly exceptions of DiDi and Gary none of these characters would have any friends at all if they took those solutions. In the case of Zii in particular it's kind of important to remember she's essentially the TokenEvilTeamMate. You feel bad that she's harassed by these people all the way up until you remember she once seduced a housewife into divorcing her husband because she was trolled by the housewife's kid.
22nd Mar '16 9:12:38 AM wentesur
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* I don't know if its bad arc writing or so forth, but alot of plot arcs could have been resolved with a few simple explanations/or [["Reason you suck" speech]] Eg: Zii "Erik we can't hire Sonya, as everytime we are alone she harasses me into trying to sleep with me" or again Zii "yuki back off, i ran away because you are a crazy phalliphobic who is scarily obsessed with me and i don't like it"

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* I don't know if its bad arc writing or so forth, but alot of plot arcs could have been resolved with a few simple explanations/or [["Reason you suck" speech]] ReasonYouSuckSpeech Eg: Zii "Erik we can't hire Sonya, as everytime we are alone she harasses me into trying to sleep with me" or again Zii "yuki back off, i ran away because you are a crazy phalliphobic who is scarily obsessed with me and i don't like it"
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[[folder:When Gary caught Matt and Dillon]]
* When did exactly Gary find out that Matt and Dillon were couple? From what implied on strip #1 and #2, That time was the first time he knew and it had been 3 months. But after seeing [[http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/it_was_gaming_night this strip]] it was implied that the trio's last gaming night was also the first time Matt and Dillon were fucking and Gary knew all along but acted shocked in #2. Did I misinterpret something? Did the author confirm this somewhere? Did Gary try to forget the event without directly confronting them? I'm, confused.
3rd Jul '15 5:04:16 PM finalfaw
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* I don't know if its bad arc writing or so forth, but alot of plot arcs could have been resolved with a few simple explanations/or [["Reason you suck" speech]] Eg: Zii "Erik we can't hire Sonya, as everytime we are alone she harasses me into trying to sleep with me" or again Zii "yuki back off, i ran away because you are a crazy phalliphobic who is scarily obsessed with me and i don't like it"

** in Ziis' case i think its just a refusal to take responsibility for her actions, true, she didn't ask these women to be obsessed with her but still, if she didn't relent and simply gave them a good old "fuck off" rage off maybe they would get the message.

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31st Mar '15 6:04:13 PM Discar
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31st Mar '15 6:03:44 PM Discar
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*** I figure it's because he got knocked out and that's the standard spot.

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*** ** I figure it's because he got knocked out and that's the standard spot.spot.

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*** [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery The idea is that the husband did it first, and the mother did it as a consequence.]]
**** Also, the fact that the guy was, y'know, married gives his a lot less leeway in that regard than Zii has, as a single.
*** It's a little complicated, but it mostly comes down to revenge sex. Most likely after Zii met Angèle there was quite a lot of talking about their lives before Zii put the moves on her, at which point Zii likely realized that not only was she going to get hot and heavy with an industrial-strength MILF, but she was doing said MILF a favor by giving Angèle the push she needed to dump her cheating husband and bail on a crappy marriage. On top of all that, she got to shove Vyndicator's words back in his face in a very, very literal way. If you're one of the people who thinks that was Zii's CMOA, this three-for-the-price-of-one seduction is what separates it from a typical quick-and-dirty hookup.
*** I would like to note that even if you think Zii is a CreatorsPet, this can still be her CMOA. Villains (and TheScrappy) can have crowning moments too.

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*** ** [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery The idea is that the husband did it first, and the mother did it as a consequence.]]
**** ** Also, the fact that the guy was, y'know, married gives his a lot less leeway in that regard than Zii has, as a single.
*** ** It's a little complicated, but it mostly comes down to revenge sex. Most likely after Zii met Angèle there was quite a lot of talking about their lives before Zii put the moves on her, at which point Zii likely realized that not only was she going to get hot and heavy with an industrial-strength MILF, but she was doing said MILF a favor by giving Angèle the push she needed to dump her cheating husband and bail on a crappy marriage. On top of all that, she got to shove Vyndicator's words back in his face in a very, very literal way. If you're one of the people who thinks that was Zii's CMOA, this three-for-the-price-of-one seduction is what separates it from a typical quick-and-dirty hookup.
*** ** I would like to note that even if you think Zii is a CreatorsPet, this can still be her CMOA. Villains (and TheScrappy) can have crowning moments too.too.

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*** Wouldn't say that they'd get kicked by the landlord, she did tolerate Zii and [=DiDi=] while watching horror movies.
*** [[http://www.menagea3.net/d/20090106.html Sort of.]] [[NightmareFuel That Landlady]] still scared the Hell out of poor Zii and [=DiDi=]. [[http://www.menagea3.net/d/20090108.html Thankfully for Gary's sake,]] [[GirlsAreReallyScaredOfHorrorMovies Girls Are Really Scared of Horror Movies.]]

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*** ** Wouldn't say that they'd get kicked by the landlord, she did tolerate Zii and [=DiDi=] while watching horror movies.
*** ** [[http://www.menagea3.net/d/20090106.html Sort of.]] [[NightmareFuel That Landlady]] still scared the Hell out of poor Zii and [=DiDi=]. [[http://www.menagea3.net/d/20090108.html Thankfully for Gary's sake,]] [[GirlsAreReallyScaredOfHorrorMovies Girls Are Really Scared of Horror Movies.]]]]

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*** And with ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'', we find out that Dillon is prone to flirting, but he prefers committed relationships for any actual sex.

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*** ** And with ''Webcomic/StickyDillyBuns'', we find out that Dillon is prone to flirting, but he prefers committed relationships for any actual sex.sex.

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*** Seeing how the fans are now treating him as TheWoobie, that would be a major swing and a miss.

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*** ** Seeing how the fans are now treating him as TheWoobie, that would be a major swing and a miss.



*** I'm guessing because-- would you expect your parent, whom you (Provided you've ever thought about it before) thought was straight, to suddenly reveal/imply they've had sex with someone of the same gender? Especially at that (the kid's) age? Also, depending on the person, that probably could be quite the shock. I wouldn't be surprised if there actually ''were'' people who went to therapy for that. Unfortunate, but possible.

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*** ** I'm guessing because-- would you expect your parent, whom you (Provided you've ever thought about it before) thought was straight, to suddenly reveal/imply they've had sex with someone of the same gender? Especially at that (the kid's) age? Also, depending on the person, that probably could be quite the shock. I wouldn't be surprised if there actually ''were'' people who went to therapy for that. Unfortunate, but possible.possible.

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* If we can base ourselves on Yuki's reaction, Gary isn't excactly proficient at drawing (naked) women (Yuki: "what are those?" Gary: "Er.. her breasts"). Okay, this is a throw-away gag to justify another naked scene with [=DiDi=] but still... Aren't there any art academies around where Gary could have access with real-life models? He certainly seems passionate enough about his art to have a high quality drawing table until Matt and Dillon broke it.

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[[folder:Drawing naked women]]

* If we can base ourselves on Yuki's reaction, Gary isn't excactly exactly proficient at drawing (naked) women (Yuki: "what are those?" Gary: "Er.. her breasts"). Okay, this is a throw-away gag to justify another naked scene with [=DiDi=] but still... Aren't there any art academies around where Gary could have access with real-life models? He certainly seems passionate enough about his art to have a high quality drawing table until Matt and Dillon broke it.



*** But wouldn't a reasonably talented artist who actively looks for models (he did ask Matt to pose for him after all) look for an evening-school academy or something like that?
**** Given his job (working in a call center), his living situation (seriously, that apartment is ''gorgeous''), and his hobbies (rare and most likely expensive Transformers) he probably doesn't have the money to pay extra classes so he takes what he can get, and what he can get is Matt. ThatCameOutWrong.

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*** ** But wouldn't a reasonably talented artist who actively looks for models (he did ask Matt to pose for him after all) look for an evening-school academy or something like that?
**** ** Given his job (working in a call center), his living situation (seriously, that apartment is ''gorgeous''), and his hobbies (rare and most likely expensive Transformers) he probably doesn't have the money to pay extra classes so he takes what he can get, and what he can get is Matt. ThatCameOutWrong.ThatCameOutWrong.

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* Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that a good majority of the sexual encounters in this comic-- whether positive or negative, but mostly positive-- involve women? Even the ones involving the gay guy? And the only ones where he managed to get any with another guy either ended or are probably going to end rather badly? Granted, I should probably wait and see where the creator's going with this Dillon/Dillon's agent/Amber thing, but I just think it's odd. Also, Dillon doesn't necessarily have sex with any women, but he sure seems to end up in a lot of sexy situations with them for a gay guy. I'll just chalk it up to EveryoneIsBi for now.

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* Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that a good majority of the sexual encounters in this comic-- whether comic--whether positive or negative, but mostly positive-- involve positive--involve women? Even the ones involving the gay guy? And the only ones where he managed to get any with another guy either ended or are probably going to end rather badly? Granted, I should probably wait and see where the creator's going with this Dillon/Dillon's agent/Amber thing, but I just think it's odd. Also, Dillon doesn't necessarily have sex with any women, but he sure seems to end up in a lot of sexy situations with them for a gay guy. I'll just chalk it up to EveryoneIsBi for now.




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*** There are [[BaseBreaker a lot of people]] who would disagree with you on that point.
*** And [[BaseBreaker just as many]] who would agree.
*** Regardless of what the fans think, clearly the ''author'' doesn't think of Zii as a bad person.

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*** ** There are [[BaseBreaker a lot of people]] who would disagree with you on that point.
*** ** And [[BaseBreaker just as many]] who would agree.
*** ** Regardless of what the fans think, clearly the ''author'' doesn't think of Zii as a bad person.person.

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*** Oh, okay, sorry.

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*** ** Oh, okay, sorry.




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* This troper isn't particularly fond of Jordan either. Although one has to take into account that he hasn't actually met Gary for himself and what he knows about him is only secondhand information. Information provided by a deluded man with a blind crush on Gary who's all but convinced himself that Gary returns his feelings. I'm not defending Jordan's Mindscrewing of Gary, I can't stand him either because of it. But Jordan doesn't really know anything about Gary. If he knew him for himself and his issues with sexuality he may not have messed with him.
** Matt's been bugging me lately too. When Sandra comes to him saying Didi came on to her and asking for advice, he tells Sandra to ''deliberately start a sham relationship with Didi'' because men will find it hot to see them together.

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* This troper isn't particularly fond of Jordan either. Although one has to take into account that he hasn't actually met Gary for himself and what he knows about him is only secondhand information. Information provided by a deluded man with a blind crush on Gary who's all but convinced himself that Gary returns his feelings. I'm not defending Jordan's Mindscrewing of Gary, I can't stand him either because of it. But Jordan doesn't really know anything about Gary. If he knew him for himself and his issues with sexuality he may not have messed with him.
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Matt's been bugging me lately too. When Sandra comes to him saying Didi came on to her and asking for advice, he tells Sandra to ''deliberately start a sham relationship with Didi'' because men will find it hot to see them together.



*** It's the same thing. He's telling her to use [=DiDi=] as a tool to get a rich boyfriend in the future. Trying lots of jobs to beef up your resume is ''completely'' different from deliberately manipulating someone into a relationship just so you can dump them later and use the story to titillate men.

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*** ** It's the same thing. He's telling her to use [=DiDi=] as a tool to get a rich boyfriend in the future. Trying lots of jobs to beef up your resume is ''completely'' different from deliberately manipulating someone into a relationship just so you can dump them later and use the story to titillate men.men.
** You're missing the point. It's not manipulative, it's explorative. She's determining if she's interested in girls or not. If she is, then she has Didi. If she isn't, then she and Didi will break it off amicably, and then mentioning the story to potential suitors will be a huge turn-on.

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*** Alright then. As long as it's not a totally unheard of thing I can accept it better. Still, a lingerie model? The airbrush guy must be amazing.
**** There are a few preop transgender models out there, and as a general rule MtFs are pretty good at tucking. Also, for some shoots Senna might wear a gaff under whatever panties she's trying on, if they're not too skimpy. (Also, at the age Senna probably is (20ish, most likely), it's much easier to turn a guy into a very pretty woman.)

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*** ** Alright then. As long as it's not a totally unheard of thing I can accept it better. Still, a lingerie model? The airbrush guy must be amazing.
**** ** There are a few preop transgender models out there, and as a general rule MtFs are pretty good at tucking. Also, for some shoots Senna might wear a gaff under whatever panties she's trying on, if they're not too skimpy. (Also, at the age Senna probably is (20ish, most likely), it's much easier to turn a guy into a very pretty woman.)



*** Also she's (apparently) only in town for a short time, maybe she's leaving to get the other half of the operation.

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*** ** Also she's (apparently) only in town for a short time, maybe she's leaving to get the other half of the operation.operation.

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*** Yeah, it's pretty clear [=DiDi=] is shamelessly trying to seduce Sandra. Why else would she be grinding her boobs into Sandra's back in the next comic? The weird thing is it seems to be ''working''. I guess [=DiDi=] really is just that hot.

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*** ** Yeah, it's pretty clear [=DiDi=] is shamelessly trying to seduce Sandra. Why else would she be grinding her boobs into Sandra's back in the next comic? The weird thing is it seems to be ''working''. I guess [=DiDi=] really is just that hot.hot.

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*** But other shots of him shirtless show that he's got a fairly masculine chest, even if he's got girly mannerisms. It probably wouldn't be so unbelievable if the costume came with the padding you'd assume pretty much anyone would need to play your average superheroine... or even ''any padding at all''. The fact that they just strapped the outfit to a completely and utterly flat chest, when the rest of the body shape indicates a fully-grown adult, wouldn't be very believable. Adult women that flat are also usually extremely skinny.

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*** ** But other shots of him shirtless show that he's got a fairly masculine chest, even if he's got girly mannerisms. It probably wouldn't be so unbelievable if the costume came with the padding you'd assume pretty much anyone would need to play your average superheroine... or even ''any padding at all''. The fact that they just strapped the outfit to a completely and utterly flat chest, when the rest of the body shape indicates a fully-grown adult, wouldn't be very believable. Adult women that flat are also usually extremely skinny.skinny.

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*** Minor point of order, Black Canary hasn't worn a wig since probably the late nineties, she grew it out and dyes it now. The play's clearly based on the modern versions of the characters (no Discowing) so the wig lending it authenticity wouldn't fly. Especially since, y'know, Dillon has blonde hair instead of black, which is Dinah's natural color.

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*** ** Minor point of order, Black Canary hasn't worn a wig since probably the late nineties, she grew it out and dyes it now. The play's clearly based on the modern versions of the characters (no Discowing) so the wig lending it authenticity wouldn't fly. Especially since, y'know, Dillon has blonde hair instead of black, which is Dinah's natural color.



** RuleOfFunny, that whole punchline worked because it was just so random.

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** ** RuleOfFunny, that whole punchline worked because it was just so random.random.

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[[folder:Yuki and straight sex]]



*** Except that she didn't think she was lesbian until after that incident with her first boyfriend, which took place when she was 16. You'd think that at 16 she'd already found out about straight sex, especially since she was about to do it with a guy? And even if you're a misandrist, you'd have to live in a rather ascetic manner to avoid ''all'' representations of straight sex -- and nothing in the comic indicates Yuki lives like that. (For example, she seems to be an avid reader of manga.)
*** I'd guess that at 16 she only knew about the "traditional Japanese" version of straight sex (LieBackAndThinkOfEngland).

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*** ** Except that she didn't think she was lesbian until after that incident with her first boyfriend, which took place when she was 16. You'd think that at 16 she'd already found out about straight sex, especially since she was about to do it with a guy? And even if you're a misandrist, you'd have to live in a rather ascetic manner to avoid ''all'' representations of straight sex -- and nothing in the comic indicates Yuki lives like that. (For example, she seems to be an avid reader of manga.)
*** ** I'd guess that at 16 she only knew about the "traditional Japanese" version of straight sex (LieBackAndThinkOfEngland).(LieBackAndThinkOfEngland).

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* Also, why did Zii try to restrain herself from jumping at Didi?

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* Also, why Why did Zii try to restrain herself from jumping at Didi?Didi?

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21st Jan '15 2:15:55 PM ironballs16
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*** I'd guess that at 16 she only knew about the "traditional Japanese" version of straight sex (lie back and let him do what he wants).

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*** I'd guess that at 16 she only knew about the "traditional Japanese" version of straight sex (lie back and let him do what he wants).(LieBackAndThinkOfEngland).
21st Jan '15 11:46:25 AM ironballs16
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** DoubleStandard, that's why.

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** DoubleStandard, that's why.AManIsAlwaysEager, as well as Gary having expressed a ''lot'' of interest in Amber beforehand, so it's doubtful he would have minded being openly propositioned for it. She just didn't do ''that'' because she thought that Gary was gay.
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