History Headscratchers / MeetTheRobinsons

21st Jun '16 3:09:55 PM ambiguousCase
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* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.

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* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.days.
** For every baby that gets adopted, another one gets left behind. Lewis was just picked after all the other babies, that's all. It's dumb, bad luck.
14th May '16 4:38:13 AM Whitewings
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----* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.
18th Feb '16 5:51:25 AM ladyofthelibrary
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* I'm apalled at the IdiotBall everyone in the Future has. Wilbur makes it clear that Lewis ''has'' to wear a hat because otherwise, they'll know that he's Cornelius Robinson as a young boy. Except...um...well...DOES A CHILD LOOK ANY DIFFERENT WITH OR WITHOUT A HAT!? If my 11-year-old self suddenly appeared in front of me wearing a hat, guess what? I'm still gonna recognize that this person is me from the past. Also, when they finally realize who he is, Mrs. Robinson kicks him out. Um...what? Why doesn't she just explain to him why he can't live with them anymore rather than making him assume she and the others are terrible people for booting him out just because he has spiky yellow hair (Look at the whole thing from his perspective. As far as he knows, that's why they dump him is because of his hair).

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* I'm apalled appalled at the IdiotBall everyone in the Future has. Wilbur makes it clear that Lewis ''has'' to wear a hat because otherwise, they'll know that he's Cornelius Robinson as a young boy. Except...um...well...DOES A CHILD LOOK ANY DIFFERENT WITH OR WITHOUT A HAT!? If my 11-year-old self suddenly appeared in front of me wearing a hat, guess what? I'm still gonna recognize that this person is me from the past. Also, when they finally realize who he is, Mrs. Robinson kicks him out. Um...what? Why doesn't she just explain to him why he can't live with them anymore rather than making him assume she and the others are terrible people for booting him out just because he has spiky yellow hair (Look at the whole thing from his perspective. As far as he knows, that's why they dump him is because of his hair).



* One thing that bothers me about Cornelius showing Lewis the room full of inventions towards the end: Doesn't that kind of "spoil" everything for Lewis? Part of human experience is not knowing your future and, as the film states, "Keep moving forward". But if you already know that's what your future holds, then that just spoils it, everything is set in stone for you. You still have to put the work in to make it happen, yeah, but you ''know what's going to happen'', so there's no challenge, no feeling of overcoming adversity, you ''know the odds will forever be in your favour''. Yes, Cornelius does state that the future is not certain and is never set in stone, but we see earlier in the movie that if something in the past doesn't happen or is decided never to happen, it disappears - so clearly that future is going to happen. It just really bothers me how that scene basically unmakes the point the movie was trying to illustrate - keep moving forward and don't be afraid of failure...[[BrokenAesop especially if you know that inevitably you are not going to fail anyway because it's been shown to you that you will succeed]]...

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* One thing that bothers me about Cornelius showing Lewis the room full of inventions towards the end: Doesn't that kind of "spoil" everything for Lewis? Part of human experience is not knowing your future and, as the film states, "Keep moving forward". But if you already know that's what your future holds, then that just spoils it, everything is set in stone for you. You still have to put the work in to make it happen, yeah, but you ''know what's going to happen'', so there's no challenge, no feeling of overcoming adversity, you ''know the odds will forever be in your favour''.favor''. Yes, Cornelius does state that the future is not certain and is never set in stone, but we see earlier in the movie that if something in the past doesn't happen or is decided never to happen, it disappears - so clearly that future is going to happen. It just really bothers me how that scene basically unmakes the point the movie was trying to illustrate - keep moving forward and don't be afraid of failure...[[BrokenAesop especially if you know that inevitably you are not going to fail anyway because it's been shown to you that you will succeed]]...


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** What seems to be the generally accepted {{Fanon}} goes as follows: Lucile uses her maiden name, Krunklehorn, in her business life since she became known under it before her marriage but uses her married name, Robinson, in most other aspects (Lewis' friends knowing her as Mrs. Robinson for example), meaning Lewis' new name is Cornelius Robinson. Franny's maiden name, and therefore the last name of her brothers, is Framagucchi (spelling?); Franny, for whatever reason (though likely because she's famous in the arts rather than the sciences), performs under her married name.


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** I've also seen a [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1137347/ fanfic writer]] that postulates that there's only one timeline but if it is altered in any way, everyone involved, including the future self of the time traveler/s, will have their memories updated with the new timeline info within a time period that appears to be around a week.
22nd Dec '15 3:35:48 AM Sugarp1e1
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** I'm assuming that the frog girl (Young!Franny) didn't fall for him all at once. It probably happened while they were in high school or something. 12 is a little young to be falling in love, but a simple crush/friendship is
believable. Plus it's fairly common (though foolish) at a young age to become mildly infatuated with someone you barely know. Heck it happened to This Troper once in the ''10th grade''. But anyway, my point is that their relationship probably started small and then deepened over time. Keep in mind that Lewis is the only one at this point who knows that they'll end up getting married.(But... yeah, isn't that kind of awkward?)

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** I'm assuming that the frog girl (Young!Franny) didn't fall for him all at once. It probably happened while they were in high school or something. 12 is a little young to be falling in love, but a simple crush/friendship is
is believable. Plus it's fairly common (though foolish) at a young age to become mildly infatuated with someone you barely know. Heck it happened to This Troper once in the ''10th grade''. But anyway, my point is that their relationship probably started small and then deepened over time. Keep in mind that Lewis is the only one at this point who knows that they'll end up getting married.(But... yeah, isn't that kind of awkward?)
22nd Dec '15 3:34:24 AM Sugarp1e1
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*** What does Walt Disney have to do anything with? Yes, they used part of his quote, but they weren't worshiping him or telling people to. They use the "Keep moving forward" theme (and I think quote) on Phineas and Ferb but so far I've seen no one who's said something along the lines of what you wrote. Talk about an over-reaction...
** I'm assuming that the frog girl (Young!Franny) didn't fall for him all at once. It probably happened while they were in high school or something. 12 is a little young to be falling in love, but a simple crush/friendship is believable. Plus it's fairly common (though foolish) at a young age to become mildly infatuated with someone you barely know. Heck it happened to This Troper once in the ''10th grade''. But anyway, my point is that their relationship probably started small and then deepened over time. Keep in mind that Lewis is the only one at this point who knows that they'll end up getting married.(But... yeah, isn't that kind of awkward?)

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*** ** What does Walt Disney have to do anything with? Yes, they used part of his quote, but they weren't worshiping him or telling people to. They use the "Keep moving forward" theme (and I think quote) on Phineas and Ferb but so far I've seen no one who's said something along the lines of what you wrote. Talk about an over-reaction...
** And who said Lewis was the one who changed his own name? The ending implies that it was his new parents that changed his name, not Lewis himself. Once they signed the adoption papers it would be well withen their power to. Adoptive parents HAVE changed the names of the children they adopt, you know.
** I'm assuming that the frog girl (Young!Franny) didn't fall for him all at once. It probably happened while they were in high school or something. 12 is a little young to be falling in love, but a simple crush/friendship is is
believable. Plus it's fairly common (though foolish) at a young age to become mildly infatuated with someone you barely know. Heck it happened to This Troper once in the ''10th grade''. But anyway, my point is that their relationship probably started small and then deepened over time. Keep in mind that Lewis is the only one at this point who knows that they'll end up getting married.(But... yeah, isn't that kind of awkward?)
22nd Aug '15 1:35:03 AM SeptimusHeap
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*** This Troper came up with a rather interesting theory for the time. She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. (This troper, arguably, has just read ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves''). To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance was just the end of the footnote.

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*** This Troper came up with a rather interesting theory for the time. She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. (This troper, arguably, has just read ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'').story. To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance was just the end of the footnote.
21st Aug '15 8:07:16 PM BlueGriffin
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*This troper thinks there is more than one timeline. The first one (T1) we don't see where Lewis's invention works just fine, he gets adopted, Goob doesn't get adopted, meets Frannie at some point, etc, make Doris, his son loses the Time Machine, etc. So a new timeline starts (T2) as soon as Doris messes with Lewis's invention, but is not set in stone (T1 one can still exist). So when they travel to the future they go to T1's future (the movie). Everything happens, but why doesn't it become endless? Because T1 will disappear, and T2 will take precedent. It will be very similar to T1, but will not have Doris, Dark Goob, and will not have the events of the movie. He will still make the time machines, and his son will forget to close the door, but there will be no one to steal it. Lewis will have memories of something that will not happen. Well at least that's my perspective.
8th Jun '15 11:19:39 AM luiz4200
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** Cornelius never went into details regarding what any of those inventions do.



** Cornelius never went into details regarding what any of those inventions do.
8th Jun '15 11:18:37 AM luiz4200
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** It's never been stated how known Bowler Hat Guy's hatred of Cornelius was in the future and Wilbur might have a device that figured out when Bowler Hat Guy went the same way Doris later figures out Lewis went to the future.


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** Cornelius never went into details regarding what any of those inventions do.
24th May '15 4:14:50 PM nombretomado
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*** This Troper came up with a rather interesting theory for the time. She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. (This troper, argueably, has just read HouseOfLeaves). To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumeably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance was just the end of the footnote.

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*** This Troper came up with a rather interesting theory for the time. She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. (This troper, argueably, arguably, has just read HouseOfLeaves).''Literature/HouseOfLeaves''). To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumeably, presumably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance was just the end of the footnote.
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