History Headscratchers / MeetTheRobinsons

7th Nov '17 1:17:16 AM trapdisc
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** Also...that's not how living in an orphanage works. He doesn't just get to live there like it's a family, even if emotionally it is. Legally, he'd be kicked out at eighteen and hopefully would have some plan for school/work, and maybe also have contact with the people he knew there, but considering the fact that the orphanage and the people there never once came up as an option for him when he was bemoaning no one wanting him, I don't think it was that hard to believe that an orphan wanted to be adopted.
3rd Nov '17 9:21:45 PM Octoya
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** He actually does have a go at that couple, but it's after he's become embittered by missing the catch, so it puts them off. Lewis might be prioritized in terms of scheduling if he's older, since as pointed out he's going to only have a harder time getting adopted with each passing year.
5th Mar '17 7:15:15 PM nombretomado
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** Because [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack ADVENTURE]]!

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** Because [[TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack [[WesternAnimation/TheMarvelousMisadventuresOfFlapjack ADVENTURE]]!
28th Feb '17 8:26:42 AM momur
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** The line makes sense if you put it in context. The full line is "I never thought time travel could be possible in my lifetime, and here it is right in front of me". Lewis is essentially just saying "I never thought I would get to experience time-travel". It's basically the same as anyone getting to experience something they never thought they would.
29th Jan '17 4:42:15 PM ladyofthelibrary
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* Out of all the failed adoption interviews Lewis has, why has Goob not had a go at the couples who don't want lewis? .. particularly the couple that asks lewis what his favorite sport is since Goob is into baseball?

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* Out of all the failed adoption interviews Lewis has, why has Goob not had a go at the couples who don't want lewis? .. Lewis? .. particularly the couple that asks lewis Lewis what his favorite sport is since Goob is into baseball?



*** Not to mention that Lewis would have tested teh memory scanner on himself, and probably things wouldn't go like the end of the movie portrayed. Really, I stay with the Main/StableTimeLoop theory.

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*** Not to mention that Lewis would have tested teh the memory scanner on himself, and probably things wouldn't go like the end of the movie portrayed. Really, I stay with the Main/StableTimeLoop theory.



*** But Future Goob is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. Without someone else first having concieved her, how could he have taken the credit for Doris's creation? Without a prototype to present to Inventco, he has nothing.

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*** But Future Goob is not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed. Without someone else first having concieved conceived her, how could he have taken the credit for Doris's creation? Without a prototype to present to Inventco, he has nothing.



*** She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance was just the end of the footnote.

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*** She imagines Time being like a story, with Older Goob/Bowler Hat Guy being footnotes in the story. To get to the future that Lewis sees, Older Goob and the CrapsackWorld had to be read through...so to speak, but in the end, the story is the same. I mean, come on, like Lewis would ahve have learned the Keep Moving Forward and the "I think you're right" to Franny on his own, without future help. So thus, Bowler Hat guy stays until Lewis wakes Goob up, in which, presumably, he'll disappear as Doris's world did. Doris could also be seen as a footnote, and her disappeance disappearance was just the end of the footnote.



** This Troper's brother (and I agree with him) believes that there are actually two timelines going on. The first timeline is the movie as presented but then the second one begins when Lewis is adopted and begins his life. It will be much like the original parallel timeline but Goob will be happy and sucessful and there will be no Doris. Lewis will, of course, remember his adventures (since the Time Traveler's memory always works differently) but that will be an alternate universe where the Robinsons now have a pet dinosaur and Goob will hopefully pick up the pieces of his life.

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** This Troper's brother (and I agree with him) believes that there are actually two timelines going on. The first timeline is the movie as presented but then the second one begins when Lewis is adopted and begins his life. It will be much like the original parallel timeline but Goob will be happy and sucessful successful and there will be no Doris. Lewis will, of course, remember his adventures (since the Time Traveler's memory always works differently) but that will be an alternate universe where the Robinsons now have a pet dinosaur and Goob will hopefully pick up the pieces of his life.



** Well, Goob is rather imbalanced. Perhaps he's just an Main/UnreliableNarrator. Granted the kids got mad at him for falling asleep during a game, but there's no reason to believe they genuinely hated him, especially after the following line, and his non-sequitors when he grows up.

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** Well, Goob is rather imbalanced. Perhaps he's just an Main/UnreliableNarrator. Granted the kids got mad at him for falling asleep during a game, but there's no reason to believe they genuinely hated him, especially after the following line, and his non-sequitors non-sequiturs when he grows up.



** And who said Lewis was the one who changed his own name? The ending implies that it was his new parents that changed his name, not Lewis himself. Once they signed the adoption papers it would be well withen their power to. Adoptive parents HAVE changed the names of the children they adopt, you know.

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** And who said Lewis was the one who changed his own name? The ending implies that it was his new parents that changed his name, not Lewis himself. Once they signed the adoption papers it would be well withen within their power to. Adoptive parents HAVE changed the names of the children they adopt, you know.



** [[ForTheEvulz Maybe she's a sadist and wanted to watch him sqirm.]]

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** [[ForTheEvulz Maybe she's a sadist and wanted to watch him sqirm.squirm.]]



* This troper thinks there is more than one timeline. The first one (T1) we don't see where Lewis's invention works just fine, he gets adopted, Goob doesn't get adopted, meets Frannie at some point, etc, make Doris, his son loses the Time Machine, etc. So a new timeline starts (T2) as soon as Doris messes with Lewis's invention, but is not set in stone (T1 one can still exist). So when they travel to the future they go to T1's future (the movie). Everything happens, but why doesn't it become endless? Because T1 will disappear, and T2 will take precedent. It will be very similar to T1, but will not have Doris, Dark Goob, and will not have the events of the movie. He will still make the time machines, and his son will forget to close the door, but there will be no one to steal it. Lewis will have memories of something that will not happen. Well at least that's my perspective.

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* This troper thinks there is more than one timeline. The first one (T1) we don't see where Lewis's invention works just fine, he gets adopted, Goob doesn't get adopted, meets Frannie Franny at some point, etc, make Doris, his son loses the Time Machine, etc. So a new timeline starts (T2) as soon as Doris messes with Lewis's invention, but is not set in stone (T1 one can still exist). So when they travel to the future they go to T1's future (the movie). Everything happens, but why doesn't it become endless? Because T1 will disappear, and T2 will take precedent. It will be very similar to T1, but will not have Doris, Dark Goob, and will not have the events of the movie. He will still make the time machines, and his son will forget to close the door, but there will be no one to steal it. Lewis will have memories of something that will not happen. Well at least that's my perspective.
15th Jan '17 3:21:40 PM Kypie27
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** I think it's more surprising Lewis's parents never noticed. But even if they thought he reminded them of Cornelius, it would probably never occur to them their 12-year-old son had somehow traveled to the future. It's too implausible.
14th Jul '16 7:56:04 PM Jlfst21
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*Out of all the failed adoption interviews Lewis has, why has Goob not had a go at the couples who don't want lewis? .. particularly the couple that asks lewis what his favorite sport is since Goob is into baseball?
21st Jun '16 3:09:55 PM ambiguousCase
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* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.

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* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.days.
** For every baby that gets adopted, another one gets left behind. Lewis was just picked after all the other babies, that's all. It's dumb, bad luck.
14th May '16 4:38:13 AM Whitewings
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----* Why was Lewis not adopted almost as soon as he became available? Infants are almost always adopted out in a matter of days.
18th Feb '16 5:51:25 AM ladyofthelibrary
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* I'm apalled at the IdiotBall everyone in the Future has. Wilbur makes it clear that Lewis ''has'' to wear a hat because otherwise, they'll know that he's Cornelius Robinson as a young boy. Except...um...well...DOES A CHILD LOOK ANY DIFFERENT WITH OR WITHOUT A HAT!? If my 11-year-old self suddenly appeared in front of me wearing a hat, guess what? I'm still gonna recognize that this person is me from the past. Also, when they finally realize who he is, Mrs. Robinson kicks him out. Um...what? Why doesn't she just explain to him why he can't live with them anymore rather than making him assume she and the others are terrible people for booting him out just because he has spiky yellow hair (Look at the whole thing from his perspective. As far as he knows, that's why they dump him is because of his hair).

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* I'm apalled appalled at the IdiotBall everyone in the Future has. Wilbur makes it clear that Lewis ''has'' to wear a hat because otherwise, they'll know that he's Cornelius Robinson as a young boy. Except...um...well...DOES A CHILD LOOK ANY DIFFERENT WITH OR WITHOUT A HAT!? If my 11-year-old self suddenly appeared in front of me wearing a hat, guess what? I'm still gonna recognize that this person is me from the past. Also, when they finally realize who he is, Mrs. Robinson kicks him out. Um...what? Why doesn't she just explain to him why he can't live with them anymore rather than making him assume she and the others are terrible people for booting him out just because he has spiky yellow hair (Look at the whole thing from his perspective. As far as he knows, that's why they dump him is because of his hair).



* One thing that bothers me about Cornelius showing Lewis the room full of inventions towards the end: Doesn't that kind of "spoil" everything for Lewis? Part of human experience is not knowing your future and, as the film states, "Keep moving forward". But if you already know that's what your future holds, then that just spoils it, everything is set in stone for you. You still have to put the work in to make it happen, yeah, but you ''know what's going to happen'', so there's no challenge, no feeling of overcoming adversity, you ''know the odds will forever be in your favour''. Yes, Cornelius does state that the future is not certain and is never set in stone, but we see earlier in the movie that if something in the past doesn't happen or is decided never to happen, it disappears - so clearly that future is going to happen. It just really bothers me how that scene basically unmakes the point the movie was trying to illustrate - keep moving forward and don't be afraid of failure...[[BrokenAesop especially if you know that inevitably you are not going to fail anyway because it's been shown to you that you will succeed]]...

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* One thing that bothers me about Cornelius showing Lewis the room full of inventions towards the end: Doesn't that kind of "spoil" everything for Lewis? Part of human experience is not knowing your future and, as the film states, "Keep moving forward". But if you already know that's what your future holds, then that just spoils it, everything is set in stone for you. You still have to put the work in to make it happen, yeah, but you ''know what's going to happen'', so there's no challenge, no feeling of overcoming adversity, you ''know the odds will forever be in your favour''.favor''. Yes, Cornelius does state that the future is not certain and is never set in stone, but we see earlier in the movie that if something in the past doesn't happen or is decided never to happen, it disappears - so clearly that future is going to happen. It just really bothers me how that scene basically unmakes the point the movie was trying to illustrate - keep moving forward and don't be afraid of failure...[[BrokenAesop especially if you know that inevitably you are not going to fail anyway because it's been shown to you that you will succeed]]...


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** What seems to be the generally accepted {{Fanon}} goes as follows: Lucile uses her maiden name, Krunklehorn, in her business life since she became known under it before her marriage but uses her married name, Robinson, in most other aspects (Lewis' friends knowing her as Mrs. Robinson for example), meaning Lewis' new name is Cornelius Robinson. Franny's maiden name, and therefore the last name of her brothers, is Framagucchi (spelling?); Franny, for whatever reason (though likely because she's famous in the arts rather than the sciences), performs under her married name.


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** I've also seen a [[https://www.fanfiction.net/u/1137347/ fanfic writer]] that postulates that there's only one timeline but if it is altered in any way, everyone involved, including the future self of the time traveler/s, will have their memories updated with the new timeline info within a time period that appears to be around a week.
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