History Headscratchers / MarioKart

22nd Jan '17 8:30:19 PM dmcreif
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* Why does the allegro theme of MK7's Rainbow Road theme (at the last sections) starts from MusicalNod of N64's RR theme instead start over from beggining like other courses? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gQl4TRN9WqU#t=70s (from 1:10, it start from there)
** Because it's the CLIMAX of the race. If it started over from the beginning, there'd be no time for it to get to the climax of the song. Starting it from the climax is like a variation of ThemeMusicPowerUp and really juices you up for that final sprint to the finish.

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* Why does the allegro theme of MK7's Rainbow Road theme (at the last sections) starts from MusicalNod of N64's RR theme instead start over from beggining like other courses? http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gQl4TRN9WqU#t=70s (from 1:10, it start from there)
there)]]
** Because it's the CLIMAX of the race. If it started over from the beginning, there'd be no time for it to get to the climax of the song. Starting it from the climax is like a variation of ThemeMusicPowerUp and really juices you up for that final sprint to the finish. The same logic happens with the porting of N64 Rainbow Road to ''8''.



* Why is it that ''Mario Kart: Super Circuit'' has so little Retro racetrack representation compared to other Mario Kart games relative to its age? Almost every course (15 out of 16) from ''Mario Kart 64'' has been used, as is three-quarters (12 out of 16) of ''Mario Kart: Double Dash!!'', but only two-fifths (8 out of 20) have been used in ''Mario Kart: Super Circuit''. That being said, the amount from ''Super Mario Kart'' is only slightly higher (at 9 out of 10), but its themes and music recur so much that there's limited ability to bring back courses from that game. It's as if ''Super Circuit'' is being deliberately withheld from the Retro Cups. (These numbers don't include Battle courses, where there seems to be some sort of attempt at equal representation from past games.)

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* Why is it that ''Mario Kart: Super Circuit'' has so little Retro racetrack representation compared to other Mario Kart games relative to its age? Almost every Every course (15 out of 16) from ''Mario Kart 64'' save for its Wario Stadium has been used, as is three-quarters (12 out of 16) of ''Mario Kart: Double Dash!!'', but only two-fifths (8 out of 20) have been used in ''Mario Kart: Super Circuit''. That being said, the amount from ''Super Mario Kart'' is only slightly higher (at 9 out of 10), but its themes and music recur so much that there's limited ability to bring back courses from that game. It's as if ''Super Circuit'' is being deliberately withheld from the Retro Cups. (These numbers don't include Battle courses, where there seems to be some sort of attempt at equal representation from past games.)



*** The flat terrain of Super Circuit (because of the Mode 7) might have something to do with it. There's only so much you can do with them when recreating them (as opposed to the more three-dimensional 64, DS and Double Dash tracks)

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*** The flat terrain of Super Circuit (because of the Mode 7) might have something to do with it. There's only so much you can do with them when recreating them (as opposed to the more three-dimensional 64, DS and Double Dash tracks)tracks). ''8'' made some effort with the three GBA tracks it received (Mario Circuit, Ribbon Road, and Cheese Land) and modified them to have anti-gravity segments and hills.
16th Jan '17 2:09:29 PM Monolaf317
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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?

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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?alone?
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21st Jun '16 2:09:34 AM Sammettik
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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?
* Why is there an outcry against Baby Rosalina in ''Mario Kart 8'', on the basis that her being there as a baby is a ContinuitySnarl? The fact that she looks different than she did as a child in her storybook, that's fine, but the ''Mario Kart'' games aren't a part of the main series' canon. (What little there is.) They're all members of their own spinoff series.
** It's the principle of the matter. Besides, define "spin-off" in terms of Mario. Most of the story is Rosalina's Storybook and spin-offs. There's a reason the [[WikiRule Mario Wiki]] doesn't consider ''anything'' canon.
** What I mean is, it's practically its own separate universe. No one questions things like How Link is able to be playable in MK8 or why Bowser is suddenly on friendly enough terms with everyone to go kart-racing, (or what Rosalina herself is even doing there, when she's supposed to be traveling the cosmos caring for the Lumas, and only visits the Mushroom World every 100 years), because it's not canon. (What little there is.)
*** Also, for at least a minor definition, there's clearly supposed to be at least ''some'' canonical relationship between ''Super Mario 64'', ''Super Mario Sunshine'', ''Super Mario Galaxy'', ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', and ''Luigi's Mansion'', and I've also heard that ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' has Peach reference the Star Festival at the end, so if that's true, that game may have a place in there, as well. It's the same as the concept of the mainstream ''Zelda'' games and a spinoff like ''Link's Crossbow Training'' or ''Hyrule Warriors''. And finally, if you're saying that the ''Mario'' series doesn't really have an overall continuity, then why would Baby Rosalina be an issue, anyway?
** Again, it's on principle. The story of how Miyamoto showed contempt for Rosalina's Storybook is (I believe) well-known, and since Baby Rosalina contradicts that, it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths regardless of how it actually came about. And the whole 'nothing is canon' means 'everything is equally canon'. I, for one, believe Mario Kart and Super Mario Galaxy can co-exist in the same canon... which has implications.

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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?
* Why is there an outcry against Baby Rosalina in ''Mario Kart 8'', on the basis that her being there as a baby is a ContinuitySnarl? The fact that she looks different than she did as a child in her storybook, that's fine, but the ''Mario Kart'' games aren't a part of the main series' canon. (What little there is.) They're all members of their own spinoff series.
** It's the principle of the matter. Besides, define "spin-off" in terms of Mario. Most of the story is Rosalina's Storybook and spin-offs. There's a reason the [[WikiRule Mario Wiki]] doesn't consider ''anything'' canon.
** What I mean is, it's practically its own separate universe. No one questions things like How Link is able to be playable in MK8 or why Bowser is suddenly on friendly enough terms with everyone to go kart-racing, (or what Rosalina herself is even doing there, when she's supposed to be traveling the cosmos caring for the Lumas, and only visits the Mushroom World every 100 years), because it's not canon. (What little there is.)
*** Also, for at least a minor definition, there's clearly supposed to be at least ''some'' canonical relationship between ''Super Mario 64'', ''Super Mario Sunshine'', ''Super Mario Galaxy'', ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', and ''Luigi's Mansion'', and I've also heard that ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' has Peach reference the Star Festival at the end, so if that's true, that game may have a place in there, as well. It's the same as the concept of the mainstream ''Zelda'' games and a spinoff like ''Link's Crossbow Training'' or ''Hyrule Warriors''. And finally, if you're saying that the ''Mario'' series doesn't really have an overall continuity, then why would Baby Rosalina be an issue, anyway?
** Again, it's on principle. The story of how Miyamoto showed contempt for Rosalina's Storybook is (I believe) well-known, and since Baby Rosalina contradicts that, it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths regardless of how it actually came about. And the whole 'nothing is canon' means 'everything is equally canon'. I, for one, believe Mario Kart and Super Mario Galaxy can co-exist in the same canon... which has implications.
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27th May '16 7:51:02 PM phineas81707
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*** Also, for at least a minor definition, there's clearly supposed to be at least ''some'' canonical relationship between ''Super Mario 64'', ''Super Mario Sunshine'', ''Super Mario Galaxy'', ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', and ''Luigi's Mansion'', and I've also heard that ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' has Peach reference the Star Festival at the end, so if that's true, that game may have a place in there, as well. It's the same as the concept of the mainstream ''Zelda'' games and a spinoff like ''Link's Crossbow Training'' or ''Hyrule Warriors''. And finally, if you're saying that the ''Mario'' series doesn't really have an overall continuity, then why would Baby Rosalina be an issue, anyway?

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*** Also, for at least a minor definition, there's clearly supposed to be at least ''some'' canonical relationship between ''Super Mario 64'', ''Super Mario Sunshine'', ''Super Mario Galaxy'', ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', and ''Luigi's Mansion'', and I've also heard that ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' has Peach reference the Star Festival at the end, so if that's true, that game may have a place in there, as well. It's the same as the concept of the mainstream ''Zelda'' games and a spinoff like ''Link's Crossbow Training'' or ''Hyrule Warriors''. And finally, if you're saying that the ''Mario'' series doesn't really have an overall continuity, then why would Baby Rosalina be an issue, anyway?anyway?
** Again, it's on principle. The story of how Miyamoto showed contempt for Rosalina's Storybook is (I believe) well-known, and since Baby Rosalina contradicts that, it leaves a bad taste in people's mouths regardless of how it actually came about. And the whole 'nothing is canon' means 'everything is equally canon'. I, for one, believe Mario Kart and Super Mario Galaxy can co-exist in the same canon... which has implications.
27th May '16 11:43:24 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** What I mean is, it's practically its own separate universe. No one questions things like How Link is able to be playable in MK8 or why Bowser is suddenly on friendly enough terms with everyone to go kart-racing, (or what Rosalina herself is even doing there, when she's supposed to be traveling the cosmos caring for the Lumas, and only visits the Mushroom World every 100 years), because it's not canon. (What little there is.)

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** What I mean is, it's practically its own separate universe. No one questions things like How Link is able to be playable in MK8 or why Bowser is suddenly on friendly enough terms with everyone to go kart-racing, (or what Rosalina herself is even doing there, when she's supposed to be traveling the cosmos caring for the Lumas, and only visits the Mushroom World every 100 years), because it's not canon. (What little there is.))
*** Also, for at least a minor definition, there's clearly supposed to be at least ''some'' canonical relationship between ''Super Mario 64'', ''Super Mario Sunshine'', ''Super Mario Galaxy'', ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', and ''Luigi's Mansion'', and I've also heard that ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' has Peach reference the Star Festival at the end, so if that's true, that game may have a place in there, as well. It's the same as the concept of the mainstream ''Zelda'' games and a spinoff like ''Link's Crossbow Training'' or ''Hyrule Warriors''. And finally, if you're saying that the ''Mario'' series doesn't really have an overall continuity, then why would Baby Rosalina be an issue, anyway?
27th May '16 11:39:13 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** It's the principle of the matter. Besides, define "spin-off" in terms of Mario. Most of the story is Rosalina's Storybook and spin-offs. There's a reason the [[WikiRule Mario Wiki]] doesn't consider ''anything'' canon.

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** It's the principle of the matter. Besides, define "spin-off" in terms of Mario. Most of the story is Rosalina's Storybook and spin-offs. There's a reason the [[WikiRule Mario Wiki]] doesn't consider ''anything'' canon.canon.
** What I mean is, it's practically its own separate universe. No one questions things like How Link is able to be playable in MK8 or why Bowser is suddenly on friendly enough terms with everyone to go kart-racing, (or what Rosalina herself is even doing there, when she's supposed to be traveling the cosmos caring for the Lumas, and only visits the Mushroom World every 100 years), because it's not canon. (What little there is.)
28th Apr '16 4:03:17 AM phineas81707
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* Why is there an outcry against Baby Rosalina in ''Mario Kart 8'', on the basis that her being there as a baby is a ContinuitySnarl? The fact that she looks different than she did as a child in her storybook, that's fine, but the ''Mario Kart'' games aren't a part of the main series' canon. (What little there is.) They're all members of their own spinoff series.

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* Why is there an outcry against Baby Rosalina in ''Mario Kart 8'', on the basis that her being there as a baby is a ContinuitySnarl? The fact that she looks different than she did as a child in her storybook, that's fine, but the ''Mario Kart'' games aren't a part of the main series' canon. (What little there is.) They're all members of their own spinoff series.series.
** It's the principle of the matter. Besides, define "spin-off" in terms of Mario. Most of the story is Rosalina's Storybook and spin-offs. There's a reason the [[WikiRule Mario Wiki]] doesn't consider ''anything'' canon.
27th Apr '16 8:01:03 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?

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* Why is it that if you, the player character, score above third place, everyone who participated shows up to the ceremony, but if you manage to score lower, your character is just left to sit out alone?alone?
* Why is there an outcry against Baby Rosalina in ''Mario Kart 8'', on the basis that her being there as a baby is a ContinuitySnarl? The fact that she looks different than she did as a child in her storybook, that's fine, but the ''Mario Kart'' games aren't a part of the main series' canon. (What little there is.) They're all members of their own spinoff series.
13th Dec '15 12:13:16 PM whisperstar13
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