History Headscratchers / LifeOnMars2006

21st Jun '16 3:47:12 PM UltHamBro
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* In Life on Mars, a dirty Casino owner/crime lord that Sam knows from 2006, tries to kill him in the hospital. Sam remembers making a watertight case against him after he kills his wife Eve, and he was set to be sent down when Sam goes into a coma. [[spoiler: Sam manages to have him declared insane in 1973 through some hijinks after telling him about the future, and he then hears nurses talking about the person who attacked him in the hospital being a lunatic kept there since 1973. At the time it seemed that Sam had altered the future through his actions in the past,]] [[spoiler: but since we now know from Ashes to Ashes that he was not time travelling but was in Gene's world, and could not affect the future because he wasn't in the real world,]] it stands out as the most significant plot hole in the duality, in a universe that is otherwise surprisingly well wrapped up (considering the complexity of the story).

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* In Life on Mars, a dirty Casino owner/crime lord that Sam knows from 2006, tries to kill him in the hospital. Sam remembers making a watertight case against him after he kills his wife Eve, and he was set to be sent down when Sam goes into a coma. [[spoiler: Sam manages to have him declared insane in 1973 through some hijinks after telling him about the future, and he then hears nurses talking about the person who attacked him in the hospital being a lunatic kept there since 1973. At the time it seemed that Sam had altered the future through his actions in the past,]] [[spoiler: but since we now know from Ashes to Ashes that he was not time travelling but was in Gene's world, and could not affect the future because he wasn't in the real world,]] it stands out as the most significant plot hole in the duality, in a universe that is otherwise surprisingly well wrapped up (considering the complexity of the story).story).
** This is the only plot hole which got me scratching my head. [[spoiler: Whether we want to believe that he had allucinated it all (if we don't take A2A into account) or he was in Gene's world (if we do), it doesn't make sense.]] [[spoiler: Unless we think that the part where he sees the doctors talking about Tony Crane being a mental patient (in a TV drama, if I remember correctly) wasn't actually real.]]
8th Mar '16 3:49:37 AM Mad_Spy
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[[WMG: How can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained, given what we know from Ashes to Ashes about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]?]]

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[[WMG: How can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained, given what we know from Ashes to Ashes about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]?]]World?]]]]
8th Mar '16 3:48:45 AM Mad_Spy
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[[WMG: How can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained, given what we know from Ashes to Ashes about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]]]

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[[WMG: How can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained, given what we know from Ashes to Ashes about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]]]World]]?]]
8th Mar '16 3:48:22 AM Mad_Spy
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[[WMG: With what we know about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]]][[WMG: from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?]]

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[[WMG: With How can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained, given what we know from Ashes to Ashes about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]]]][[WMG: from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?]]World]]]]
8th Mar '16 3:46:53 AM Mad_Spy
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[[WMG: With what we know about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]] from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?]]

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[[WMG: With what we know about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]] World]]]][[WMG: from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?]]
8th Mar '16 3:46:13 AM Mad_Spy
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!With what we know about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]] from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?

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!With [[WMG: With what we know about [[spoiler: the unreal nature of Gene's World]] from Ashes to Ashes, how can the Casino owner in Life on Mars be explained?explained?]]
8th Mar '16 3:45:36 AM Mad_Spy
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In Life on Mars, a dirty Casino owner/crime lord that Sam knows from 2006, tries to kill him in the hospital. Sam remembers making a watertight case against him after he kills his wife Eve, and he was set to be sent down when Sam goes into a coma. [[spoiler: Sam manages to have him declared insane in 1973 through some hijinks after telling him about the future, and he then hears nurses talking about the person who attacked him in the hospital being a lunatic kept there since 1973. At the time it seemed that Sam had altered the future through his actions in the past,]] [[spoiler: but since we now know from Ashes to Ashes that he was not time travelling but was in Gene's world, and could not affect the future because he wasn't in the real world,]] it stands out as the most significant plot hole in the duality, in a universe that is otherwise surprisingly well wrapped up (considering the complexity of the story).

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* In Life on Mars, a dirty Casino owner/crime lord that Sam knows from 2006, tries to kill him in the hospital. Sam remembers making a watertight case against him after he kills his wife Eve, and he was set to be sent down when Sam goes into a coma. [[spoiler: Sam manages to have him declared insane in 1973 through some hijinks after telling him about the future, and he then hears nurses talking about the person who attacked him in the hospital being a lunatic kept there since 1973. At the time it seemed that Sam had altered the future through his actions in the past,]] [[spoiler: but since we now know from Ashes to Ashes that he was not time travelling but was in Gene's world, and could not affect the future because he wasn't in the real world,]] it stands out as the most significant plot hole in the duality, in a universe that is otherwise surprisingly well wrapped up (considering the complexity of the story).
8th Mar '16 3:39:59 AM Mad_Spy
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*** Apparently, when the second series of ''Life on Mars'' finished the whole thing was in Sam's head and that was that. When the follow-up series, ''Ashes to Ashes'' started pre-publicity stated that Alex had read Sam's accounts of "1973" and would find herself based in a 1981 based on these accounts (indeed Alex Lampshades this quite a lot in the first few episodes). However [[spoiler: the end of series one of AshestoAshes and ''especially'' the end of series two of the same seem to suggest that it's not all in anyone's head at all. This is arguably a retcon on the part of the writers although, given that the ending to ''Series/{{Life On Mars|2006}}'' is actually quite ambiguous, it's a behind-the-scenes retcon only.]]
** And, obviously, by season 3 of AshestoAshes, we know that it was not in his head at all.

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*** Apparently, when the second series of ''Life on Mars'' finished the whole thing was in Sam's head and that was that. When the follow-up series, ''Ashes to Ashes'' started pre-publicity stated that Alex had read Sam's accounts of "1973" and would find herself based in a 1981 based on these accounts (indeed Alex Lampshades this quite a lot in the first few episodes). However [[spoiler: the end of series one of AshestoAshes AshesToAshes and ''especially'' the end of series two of the same seem to suggest that it's not all in anyone's head at all. This is arguably a retcon on the part of the writers although, given that the ending to ''Series/{{Life On Mars|2006}}'' is actually quite ambiguous, it's a behind-the-scenes retcon only.]]
** And, obviously, by season 3 of AshestoAshes, AshesToAshes, we know that it was not in his head at all.
8th Mar '16 3:38:58 AM Mad_Spy
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*** Gene Hunt is the tumour. His greater role in Sam's world accelerates the tumours growth, or perhaps vice versa.

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*** Gene Hunt is the tumour. His greater role in Sam's world accelerates the tumours tumour's growth, or perhaps vice versa.
17th Jan '16 11:10:32 AM AliceM
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** Or maybe he [[spoiler: was afraid to find out whether it was real or not. It's still one of the most bothersome things in the 2006 world, and supports the "2006 is not real" theory. I think 2006 was real, but the writers ran out of time to do 2006 properly.]]
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