History Headscratchers / LiarLiar

30th Jan '18 10:43:46 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Furthermore, for all we know in this universe the Seventh Layer of Hell actually ''does'' involve being trapped into telling the truth in every circumstance no matter how difficult, so Fletcher might be inadvertently telling the truth in this case.
10th Dec '17 4:33:06 PM huntdaddy
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* Why was Fletcher forced to insult his coworkers about their physical imperfections, since none of the questions they asked after Max's wish came true called for that kind of answer (What's up, Fletcher? Your cholesterol, fatty!)?

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* Why was Fletcher forced to insult his coworkers about their physical imperfections, since none of the questions they asked after Max's wish came true called for that kind of answer (What's ("What's up, Fletcher? Your cholesterol, fatty!)?
fatty!")?



** It may have been because he was aware he was breaking several traffic rules during his drive (I'm an inconsiderate prick!), but didn't know at what point the officer noticed him and pursued him. Therefore, saying "no" wouldn't have been the honest truth, because Fletcher knew that he was doing several things that could have caught the cop's attention.

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** It may have been because he was aware he was breaking several traffic rules during his drive (I'm ("I'm an inconsiderate prick!), prick!"), but didn't know at what point the officer noticed him and pursued him. Therefore, saying "no" wouldn't have been the honest truth, because Fletcher knew that he was doing several things that could have caught the cop's attention.
10th Dec '17 4:32:35 PM huntdaddy
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* When Fletcher was pulled over by the cop and was asked if he knew why he was pulled over, couldn't he have just said "no". He might have known he had broken many laws, but he doesn't know which one got him stopped. It wouldn't have saved him from a ticket, but it would have been much better than "Depends on how long you were following me", which led to him confessing multiple crimes.

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* When Fletcher was pulled over by the cop and was asked if he knew why he was pulled over, couldn't he have just said "no". He might have known he had broken many laws, but he doesn't know which one got him stopped. It wouldn't have saved him from a ticket, but it would have been much better than "Depends on how long you were following me", which led to him confessing multiple crimes.crimes.
** It may have been because he was aware he was breaking several traffic rules during his drive (I'm an inconsiderate prick!), but didn't know at what point the officer noticed him and pursued him. Therefore, saying "no" wouldn't have been the honest truth, because Fletcher knew that he was doing several things that could have caught the cop's attention.
8th Dec '17 1:41:02 PM Clearin
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** He's not lying, he's using a metaphor to describe his current unpleasant circumstances. It might not be an exact match for those circumstances, but it doesn't mean that he's telling a lie, since he's not trying to convince the people he's talking to that he is actually literally in any layer of Hell, he's just trying to convince them that he's having quite the rotten time of it. Which is entirely true.

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** He's not lying, he's using a metaphor to describe his current unpleasant circumstances. It might not be an exact match for those circumstances, but it doesn't mean that he's telling a lie, since he's not trying to convince the people he's talking to that he is actually literally in any layer of Hell, he's just trying to convince them that he's having quite the rotten time of it. Which is entirely true.true.

* When Fletcher was pulled over by the cop and was asked if he knew why he was pulled over, couldn't he have just said "no". He might have known he had broken many laws, but he doesn't know which one got him stopped. It wouldn't have saved him from a ticket, but it would have been much better than "Depends on how long you were following me", which led to him confessing multiple crimes.
16th Nov '17 5:31:49 PM DoctorNemesis
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* After Max "un-wished" the wish, Fletcher decided he needed to test it to see if it worked. Why didn't he just tell Max to ask him a series of questions like he had a few minutes prior (about wrestling, sitting close to the TV, and getting your face stuck when making funny faces)? Instead, he goes up to a random woman and gets a slap across the face. Seems like he didn't think that one through, but he's a smart guy. It makes sense to expect better from someone who was intelligent enough to [[spoiler: still win the Cole case despite being unable to lie.]] Yes, yes, what he actually did was funnier, but we're thinking within the universe of the movie, not the movie AS a movie.

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* After Max "un-wished" the wish, Fletcher decided he needed to test it to see if it worked. Why didn't he just tell Max to ask him a series of questions like he had a few minutes prior (about wrestling, sitting close to the TV, and getting your face stuck when making funny faces)? Instead, he goes up to a random woman and gets a slap across the face. Seems like he didn't think that one through, but he's a smart guy. It makes sense to expect better from someone who was intelligent enough to [[spoiler: still win the Cole case despite being unable to lie.]] lie. Yes, yes, what he actually did was funnier, but we're thinking within the universe of the movie, not the movie AS a movie.
16th Nov '17 5:31:19 PM DoctorNemesis
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* Fletcher might not be having a great day, but surely he hasn't slipped into the Seventh Layer of Hell [[spoiler: or did Fletcher just lie?]]

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* Fletcher might not be having a great day, but surely he hasn't slipped into the Seventh Layer of Hell [[spoiler: or did Fletcher just lie?]]lie?
30th Oct '17 5:58:52 AM DoctorNemesis
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** He's not lying, he's using a metaphor to describe his current unpleasant circumstances. It might not be an exact match for those circumstances, but it doesn't mean that he's telling a lie, since he's not trying to convince the people he's talking to that he is actually literally in any layer of Hell, he's just trying to convince them that he's having quite the rotten time of it.

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** He's not lying, he's using a metaphor to describe his current unpleasant circumstances. It might not be an exact match for those circumstances, but it doesn't mean that he's telling a lie, since he's not trying to convince the people he's talking to that he is actually literally in any layer of Hell, he's just trying to convince them that he's having quite the rotten time of it. Which is entirely true.
30th Oct '17 5:58:37 AM DoctorNemesis
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* Fletcher might not be having a great day, but surely he hasn't slipped into the Seventh Layer of Hell [[spoiler: or did Fletcher just lie?]]

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* Fletcher might not be having a great day, but surely he hasn't slipped into the Seventh Layer of Hell [[spoiler: or did Fletcher just lie?]]lie?]]
** He's not lying, he's using a metaphor to describe his current unpleasant circumstances. It might not be an exact match for those circumstances, but it doesn't mean that he's telling a lie, since he's not trying to convince the people he's talking to that he is actually literally in any layer of Hell, he's just trying to convince them that he's having quite the rotten time of it.
12th Aug '17 2:40:09 PM valleyghost
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* Why was Fletcher forced to insult his coworkers about their physical imperfections, since none of the questions they asked after Max's wish came true called for that kind of answer (What's up, Fletcher? Your cholesterol, fatty!)?

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* Why was Fletcher forced to insult his coworkers about their physical imperfections, since none of the questions they asked after Max's wish came true called for that kind of answer (What's up, Fletcher? Your cholesterol, fatty!)?fatty!)?

* Fletcher might not be having a great day, but surely he hasn't slipped into the Seventh Layer of Hell [[spoiler: or did Fletcher just lie?]]
30th May '17 12:00:34 PM huntdaddy
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** The curse is not about the question of is/not (objective truth), but Fletcher's perception of the truth. Like the above troper said, if Fletcher believes something is true, he can say it, even if it's not an objective truth. Compare with the prostate exchange with the judge. While the truth might be otherwise, Fletcher probably honestly believes that there could be some truth to the claim that holding it in for too long can damage the prostate. He can therefore repeat this belief to the judge.

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** The curse is not about the question of is/not (objective truth), but Fletcher's perception of the truth. Like the above troper said, if Fletcher believes something is true, he can say it, even if it's not an objective truth. Compare with the prostate exchange with the judge. While the truth might be otherwise, Fletcher probably honestly believes that there could be some truth to the claim that holding it in for too long can damage the prostate. He can therefore repeat this belief to the judge.judge.

* Why was Fletcher forced to insult his coworkers about their physical imperfections, since none of the questions they asked after Max's wish came true called for that kind of answer (What's up, Fletcher? Your cholesterol, fatty!)?
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