History Headscratchers / LesMiserables

8th Mar '16 2:01:09 PM CockroachCharlie
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** I just added an example in CharacterExaggeration relating to this (changed handles in the mean time). Basically, in the book, Javert thinks Valjean is dead during the entire time Cosette grows up, until their paths cross again. In adaptations, the chronology is simplified so that instead of extra escapes and recaptures, when his identity is exposed, Valjean ends up knocking Javert out and fleeing prior to rescuing Cosette. So, ItsPersonal to a greater extent for Musical!Javert.

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** I just added an example in CharacterExaggeration relating to this (changed handles in the mean time). Basically, in the book, Javert thinks Valjean is dead during the entire time Cosette grows up, until their paths cross again. In adaptations, the chronology is simplified so that instead of extra escapes and recaptures, when his identity is exposed, Valjean ends up knocking Javert out and fleeing prior to rescuing Cosette. So, ItsPersonal Its Personal to a greater extent for Musical!Javert.




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** Of the criminal major characters, Thernardier, is extremely slippery and dodges the police with ease. No need to have them around him. Javert is the only one in Paris who would even recognize Valjean as a criminal. And while he probably has the image of him burned into his mind, there are likely a lot of guys matching the description to and simply would not make a manhunt worth the while for what is ultimately a personal case of the one that got away.


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** Nothing in the musical states that Javert was his guard the whole time. Also, Valjean fled after the bishop thing. Javert didn't go to the same place Valjean was Mayor of (can't recall the name) until later.


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** Likewise. Marius was a revolutionary, but a nobody really. Not worth the work of arresting him and even getting a positive ID on one guy in a crowd.


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**** A lot of the details are easy to forget.
8th Mar '16 1:36:15 PM CockroachCharlie
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** I could be mistaken, but if I recall correctly, she was unaware where her father had gone to. She never asks Marius about it, and that would have given away who carried Marius away and all sorts of other things.
28th Nov '15 11:19:24 AM nombretomado
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*** Well, there was that episode of {{Scrubs}} where JD was arguing about [[FanNickname The Glums]] with all the gay OAPs who had started congregating on his decking. Apart from that, this troper can't think of any other examples.

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*** Well, there was that episode of {{Scrubs}} ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' where JD was arguing about [[FanNickname The Glums]] with all the gay OAPs who had started congregating on his decking. Apart from that, this troper can't think of any other examples.
1st Nov '15 2:46:18 PM Ciel12
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* In the musical, Valjean worries that his true identity has been discovered and intends to escape overseas with Cosette. But then he decides to go to the barricade instead. So what was Cosette doing when both her father and supposedly one true love were out fighting for their lives? Was she too much of a lady to go check on them or had she just been [[LockedOutOfTheLoop left out of the situation?]]
26th Aug '15 4:13:36 PM Starshock
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*** Thank you.
26th Jul '15 10:41:00 AM Sarah1281
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** In the book, he reads about it in the paper but he has no idea why Javert would do something like that. He decides Javert must have been mad because he let him go and that's why he killed himself.
25th Jul '15 10:34:34 AM Starshock
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* Does Valjean know about Javert's suicide, and equally importantly, that his (Valjean's) actions helped cause it?
18th May '15 5:39:58 PM Starshock
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* "Who is this man and does he know ... That, giving me my life today, ''he has killed me'' even so?" -Inspector Javert. Well, that makes two of us who are in the dark. Does Jean Valjean know about Javert's suicide?
** You're questioning the logic the thoughts of a man about to throw himself off a bridge because his entire worldview was shattered in one night, and you think ''he's'' the crazy one?
17th May '15 9:04:15 AM TheUnknownUploader
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** He assumed the piece that Thenardier took was taken by the man who saved him. And I recall he hid them from the others. As for Thenardier's failure at logic, he's Thenardier. I dare you to name one time his actions made sense.


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** You're questioning the logic the thoughts of a man about to throw himself off a bridge because his entire worldview was shattered in one night, and you think ''he's'' the crazy one?
17th May '15 8:58:20 AM TheUnknownUploader
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*** He did say "every man is born of sin/every man must find his way" in "The Confrontation". Which makes sense if you think about it; Javert is so strict with criminals because he believes they choose not to seek forgiveness. Then comes Valjean, putting more holes in this ideology than Swiss cheese.
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