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18th Sep '17 9:23:58 AM ManInGray
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*** Cara knocked him out anyway, and he seems to have only woken up after they escaped; I don't think it would have gone differently if she killed him instead.


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*** You can't be sure what would bring the throes, especially with someone very unaccustomed to it.


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*** He could've just said that he used it every time with her.


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** It was only one box.
10th Sep '17 3:41:12 PM Fireblood
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* If the Calabrans held the Boxes of Orden, then why not just use them against the invaders?
10th Sep '17 11:10:27 AM Fireblood
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*** The reason why Amfortas bound Kieran was explained in the episode. Amfortas was afraid Kieran's raging spirit would trouble other spirits in the underworld. Yes, it was a poor decision, but he'd just seen Kieran slaughtering innocent people. It's hard not to see why he thought this.
2nd Jun '16 11:04:55 PM Serasia
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* The previous episode, "Vengeance", has one of the [[StupidSacrifice most pointless sacrifices]] I can recall-Panis sees Zed is about to get Dakraa'd, so he steps in the way ''very slowly'' so that it will hit him instead. If he had that much time to react (seriously, he moves VERY slowly), then why didn't he shout a warning to Zed, or tried to bat it in the way, or AT LEAST tried to jump in so that it wouldn't hit him fatally? Even ignoring that, why didn't Cara bring him back immediately after?

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* The previous episode, "Vengeance", has one of the [[StupidSacrifice most pointless sacrifices]] I can recall-Panis recall: Panis sees Zed is about to get Dakraa'd, so he steps in the way ''very slowly'' so that it will hit him instead. If he had that much time to react (seriously, he moves VERY slowly), then why didn't he shout a warning to Zed, or tried to bat it in the way, or AT LEAST tried to jump in so that it wouldn't hit him fatally? Even ignoring that, why didn't Cara bring him back immediately after?



** The eye thing is just special effects-Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that time.

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** The eye thing is just special effects-Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws throes of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that time.
15th Dec '14 12:59:22 AM Temporary14
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** Zedd knows that he isn't the father because he ''did'' use his “magical protection” each time, at least with Allard's mother. The only time he didn't use was when he conceived Richard's mother.
29th Sep '14 12:38:58 PM Fireblood
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23rd Sep '14 1:02:13 AM Fireblood
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* In the episode "Revenant" the dead wizard Amfortas muses how odd it was that Viviane death did not release Kieran from loving her. While it probably would've lengthened the episode a bit too much, it does irk me that no one mentioned the obvious reason. Kieran already loved her intensely and the confessing that happened was a redundant thing. If memory serves, something similar happens in the books with Richard. Also, why on Earth did Amfortas even bother with binding Kieran? I mean will Kieran stay as a vengeful ghost, or pass on and be with a loved one... Gee though choice.

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* In the episode "Revenant" the dead wizard Amfortas muses how odd it was that Viviane Viviane's death did not release Kieran from loving her. While it probably would've lengthened the episode a bit too much, it does irk me that no one mentioned the obvious reason. Kieran already loved her intensely and the confessing that happened was a redundant thing. If memory serves, something similar happens in the books with Richard. Also, why on Earth did Amfortas even bother with binding Kieran? I mean will Kieran stay as a vengeful ghost, or pass on and be with a loved one... Gee though tough choice.



*** Can you elaborate a bit on this? From what I've seen it's quite obvious Kieran and Viviane had strong feeling for each other even before magic entered the equation. Isn't it the same thing with Richard and Kahlan? I only read a tvtrope article on the latter book couple, so apologies if I got anything wrong.

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*** Can you elaborate a bit on this? From what I've seen it's quite obvious Kieran and Viviane had strong feeling feelings for each other even before magic entered the equation. Isn't it the same thing with Richard and Kahlan? I only read a tvtrope tv tropes article on the latter book couple, so apologies if I got anything wrong.



*** It actually makes a weird kind of sense. Kieran wasn't affected by the Confession from Viviane like Amfortas thought he was. He was in love just like any other person might be, except it showed itself with him being simply off his game (he wanted his loved one to be safe, so he was unfocused in combat; Richard is just a bit more reasonable in that regard). And after she died, it wasn't magic that was preventing the spell from being broken, it was simple grief and rage at what had happened, which drove the Sword of Truth to amplify it beyond all reason. And because he never managed to remaster it like Richard did in ''his'' own rage issue incident, Amfortas killed him. Zed just wasn't willing to kill Richard, so they tried overcoming the Sword's power.

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*** It actually makes a weird kind of sense. Kieran wasn't affected by the Confession from Viviane like Amfortas thought he was. He was in love just like any other person might be, except it showed itself with him being simply off his game (he wanted his loved one to be safe, so he was unfocused in combat; Richard is just a bit more reasonable in that regard). And after she died, died it wasn't magic that was preventing the spell from being broken, it was simple grief and rage at what had happened, which drove the Sword of Truth to amplify it beyond all reason. And because he never managed to remaster it like Richard did in ''his'' own rage issue incident, Amfortas killed him. Zed just wasn't willing to kill Richard, so they tried overcoming the Sword's power.



* Why would Kahlan ever use her power in battle? Sure, that one guy would become her meat puppet, but then she'd be completely vunerable to any other enemy for the rest of the fight. She's pretty damn good with those short swords, better off just using them the entire battle.

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* Why would Kahlan ever use her power in battle? Sure, that one guy would become her meat puppet, but then she'd be completely vunerable vulnerable to any other enemy for the rest of the fight. She's pretty damn good with those short swords, better off just using them the entire battle.



* How Nicci was handled in the season 2 finale.(Spoilers follow for those who haven't seen it.) Sure, it was awesome finally seeing her in a black dress, but there were too many quirky issues to overlook. First, she's changed to being an OmnicidalManiac who wants to let the Keeper destroy everything so she and Richard can be the last survivors in the world and create a new race in their image. Then, Cara manages to deflect a lightning bolt from her, despite that it was previously established that a sufficiently powerful sorceress can overwhelm a Mord'Sith, and Nicci is the strongest of all of them, plus she has Richard's Han, the most powerful seen in 3000 years. There was no way Nicci could have failed to destroy a Mord'Sith if what we were told previously was true. Plus, isn't anyone catching on to the idea that she is still carrying Richard's Han? That he hasn't gotten it back yet?

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* How Nicci was handled in the season 2 finale.(Spoilers finale (spoilers follow for those who haven't seen it.) it). Sure, it was awesome finally seeing her in a black dress, but there were too many quirky issues to overlook. First, she's changed to being an OmnicidalManiac who wants to let the Keeper destroy everything so she and Richard can be the last survivors in the world and create a new race in their image. Then, Cara manages to deflect a lightning bolt from her, despite that it was previously established that a sufficiently powerful sorceress can overwhelm a Mord'Sith, and Nicci is the strongest of all of them, plus she has Richard's Han, the most powerful seen in 3000 years. There was no way Nicci could have failed to destroy a Mord'Sith if what we were told previously was true. Plus, isn't anyone catching on to the idea that she is still carrying Richard's Han? That he hasn't gotten it back yet?



* It just now occured to me that Darken Rahl's entire scheme from "Walter" was completely redundant- If he had Walter in his custody for 6 monthes, then why the hell did he wait until that point to execute his whole plan for ressurection? The way the show portrays it, it's as if he's waited until: A) He got his hands on the scroll Richard and co. needed (which he didn't even know existed until the previous episode) and B) For Walter to escape. Of course, this makes no sense, as logically, Rahl would have all the means to ressurect himself (Mord-Sith, Sisters of the Dark) long before this episode. Maybe he had to wait until Kahlan confessed a sister? Since normally ressurecting himself would go against the Keeper's agenda, so the sisters probably wouldn't agree to it so readily, so he had to wait until he had a bargaining chip to convince the Seeker and co. to help him do it? Still, counting on a sister to be confessed ''and'' to have the means to force Richard's hand is one hell of a GambitRoulette...
** Rahl ''wasn't'' planning to be resurrected at first. He might have had Walter kept around as a contingency, but up until the Creator episode, he was perfectly okay with remaining in the Underworld serving the Keeper. It was only after he received the YouHaveFailedMe punishment from the Keeper that he decided it was in his best interests to GTFO--and Walter and the confession of the sister provided that opportunity. He hadn't ''planned'' for it, he was just seizing the chance.
* The previous episode, "Vengeance", has one of the [[StupidSacrifice most pointless sacrifices]] I can recall- Panis sees Zed is about to get Dakraa'd, so he steps in the way ''very slowly'' so that it will hit him instead. If he had that much time to react (seriously, he moves VERY slowly), then why didn't he shout a warning to Zed, or tried to bat it in the way, or AT LEAST tried to jump in so that it wouldn't hit him fatally? Even ignoring that, why didn't Cara bring him back immediately after?

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* It just now occured occurred to me that Darken Rahl's entire scheme from "Walter" was completely redundant- redundant. If he had Walter in his custody for 6 monthes, months, then why the hell did he wait until that point to execute his whole plan for ressurection? resurrection? The way the show portrays it, it's as if he's waited until: A) He he got his hands on the scroll Richard and co. needed (which he didn't even know existed until the previous episode) and B) For for Walter to escape. Of course, this makes no sense, as logically, Rahl would have all the means to ressurect resurrect himself (Mord-Sith, Sisters of the Dark) long before this episode. Maybe he had to wait until Kahlan confessed a sister? Since normally ressurecting resurrecting himself would go against the Keeper's agenda, so the sisters probably wouldn't agree to it so readily, so he had to wait until he had a bargaining chip to convince the Seeker and co. to help him do it? Still, counting on a sister to be confessed ''and'' to have the means to force Richard's hand is one hell of a GambitRoulette...
** Rahl ''wasn't'' planning to be resurrected at first. He might have had Walter kept around as a contingency, but up until the Creator episode, he was perfectly okay with remaining in the Underworld serving the Keeper. It was only after he received the YouHaveFailedMe punishment from the Keeper that he decided it was in his best interests to GTFO--and GTFO-and Walter and the confession of the sister provided that opportunity. He hadn't ''planned'' for it, he was just seizing the chance.
* The previous episode, "Vengeance", has one of the [[StupidSacrifice most pointless sacrifices]] I can recall- Panis recall-Panis sees Zed is about to get Dakraa'd, so he steps in the way ''very slowly'' so that it will hit him instead. If he had that much time to react (seriously, he moves VERY slowly), then why didn't he shout a warning to Zed, or tried to bat it in the way, or AT LEAST tried to jump in so that it wouldn't hit him fatally? Even ignoring that, why didn't Cara bring him back immediately after?



* Incoherence : In one of the last episodes we learn that Darken Rahl was the first baneling, hence his endless bloodlust. But then, we have the events of ''Unbroken'' : Suddenly, Darken Rahl has been able to survive a whole year without, presumably, killing anything or anyone, and certainly not killing on a daily basis the way he used to. Does not compute.

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* Incoherence : Incoherence: In one of the last episodes we learn that Darken Rahl was the first baneling, hence his endless bloodlust. But then, we have the events of ''Unbroken'' : ''Unbroken''. Suddenly, Darken Rahl has been able to survive a whole year without, presumably, killing anything or anyone, and certainly not killing on a daily basis the way he used to. Does not compute.



** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that, if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that time.

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** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession effects-Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that, that if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that time.


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** Okay, that makes sense, but his being the father still isn't disproved. Magical DNA tests, anyone?
22nd Sep '14 10:04:42 AM MrDeath
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* In the episode ''Brannigan'', Zedd's told by an old flame that he's the father of her son. He denies this, saying he used "[[FantasyContraception magical protection]]" but later admits he didn't use it every time. Kahlan is judging the matter, and he tells her in private a secret he's kept [[spoiler: that he's Richard's grandfather.]] Somehow, she accepts this as proving he isn't the father, even though they have nothing to do with each other. Talk about your {{non sequitur fallacy}}.

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* In the episode ''Brannigan'', Zedd's told by an old flame that he's the father of her son. He denies this, saying he used "[[FantasyContraception magical protection]]" but later admits he didn't use it every time. Kahlan is judging the matter, and he tells her in private a secret he's kept [[spoiler: that he's Richard's grandfather.]] Somehow, she accepts this as proving he isn't the father, even though they have nothing to do with each other. Talk about your {{non sequitur fallacy}}. fallacy}}.
** Been a while since I've seen the episode, but as I recall, Kahlan's logic is that she can tell that Zedd is hiding or lying about ''something'', and in the context of the supposed son, that's what she deduces, that his "I'm lying about something" body language means that he's lying about not being the kid's father. Zedd tells her about being Richard's grandfather to explain why he's acting like he's hiding something. Kahlan believes him about not being the father because she accepts that being Richard's grandfather is the reason for his odd behavior.
20th Sep '14 6:11:06 PM Fireblood
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** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that, if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that period.

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** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that, if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that period.time.
20th Sep '14 6:10:18 PM Fireblood
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** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[Eragon Sporkings' review http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule]] mentions that, if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that period.

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** The eye thing is just special effects--Confession actually works through physical contact, which is why whenever Kahlan confesses someone, she grabs them first (the Con Dar being an acknowledged exception). This is something that might be better explained in the books, but using the Confessor power isn't a deliberate action so much as 'letting go' of the power that Kahlan is constantly holding in, so something like sex would, indeed, make her lose control and accidentally unleash that power on whoever she's in contact with. Other forms of sex that don't cause her to go into "the throws of passion" would be an idea, but are not brought up. [[Eragon Sporkings' review http://eragon-sporkings.[[http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule]] com/Wizard%27s+First+Rule Eragon Sporkings' review]] mentions that, if the Confessor's power doesn't return after each use for days (or hours, in Kahlan's case) they could have sex during that period.
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