History Headscratchers / LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit

20th Mar '17 4:05:11 PM Idarak
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**IIRC, Olivia was distracted during that scene and was just about to leave when the pizza arrived, and she wouldn't have connected the pizza with the death threats. When she told Fin she didn't order it, I imagine he presumed someone else ordered it and it had been misconstrued as Olivia's. Lake was sitting a few feet away and probably didn't hear Olivia saying she did not order the pizza, he likely just presumed she didn't want it. Overall, chalk the whole thing up to complacency. The SVU squad have been threatened with death many, many times before then, they've never (I think) been targeted inside their own precinct before.
9th Mar '17 3:15:27 AM AdamC
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** Over the span of the last couple of years there have been a lot of very high-profile scandals involving police misconduct and violence. The episode where Amaro shoots a black, unarmed teenage boy aired less than a year before the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson. Public perception of cops like Amaro is rapidly becoming much more sour, so they had to write him out rather than keep him. You can already see the cultural shift happening as Amaro is given actual consequences for his actions, unlike Stabler, but as things become more and more serious they had to tone it down.
16th Feb '17 4:38:06 PM M3
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** Law isn't a machine. It's run by humans that are easily manipulated and loaded with their own biases. Cases can get thrown out for that shit far more commonly than you'd give it credit for. Anyway, given the talk and reasoning the judge gave, it sounds like the traditional narrow-minded "You work in porn so you don't respect yourself." bullshit notion. Also, the conversation between Dodds and Benson indicate that the University of Cornwell has some political influence on the movers and shakers. Coincidentally, while not all women or men star in rape porns, you'd be surprised how often judges are quick to throw out rape cases or cases of domestic abuse because of sexual history. They're not supposed to, but whoops, there it is.


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** There seemed to be notions on all angles that the detectives and Barba were ready to fight back. Barba was ACHING to go back to trial and possibly for that Judge's neck and job. One problem: can't make a case without a defendant. Evie was completely broken and she perceives that there's no more hope for fighting back. To be fair to her, after seeing two dudes get convicted of rape, only to be released because the judge thinks "I'm nothing more than a whore." would throw out the fight in many people. Once she's seen what she saw in that courtroom; that was it for her. She was broken and victimized by the same legal system that was supposed to protect her.
6th Feb '17 5:47:22 PM accidentallythesun
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[[folder:The 'Svengali' pizza bomb]]
So, after she's been receiving threats and signs point to a stalker trying to get her off the case/shut her up, Olivia receives a mysterious pizza at the precinct - she didn't order it, and seems weirded out by it. But, she just orders Fin to toss it out. Everyone else is present, and ''[[TooDumbToLive nobody at all seems suspicious of this mystery pizza sent specifically to Liv.]]'' In fact, as Fin's about to go throw it out, [[WhatAnIdiot Chester actually asks if he can have the pizza so it doesn't go to waste, then carelessly tosses the box on his desk - causing it to explode.]] This is season 9, and ''all'' of the detectives present should have known better than to treat such an occurrence so glibly. Mysterious, un-ordered food ''in a box'' showing up at the precinct for a detective who's been threatened on the current case? ''Nobody'' found that suspicious and worthy of caution and investigation? How long have these people been doing their jobs, again? It's very hard to believe the thought that it might have been a trap ''never'' crossed the mind of ''anyone'' present there. It makes them all look irresponsible and downright stupid.
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31st Aug '16 3:59:53 AM CrypticMirror
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** RealityIsUnrealistic. Many suspects in real life will still try and talk their way out of things or make confessions even when they really should know better. By the time the idea that they really ought to stop talking kicks in, in show and out, it is generally after a suspect has already said far too much. The show also does go to great lengths to show the tricks law enforcement uses to convince people to talk freely and we do see a lot of suspects either clamming up or lawyers showing up to put a halt to their client's talking.
31st Aug '16 2:35:32 AM radnick104
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31st Aug '16 2:31:56 AM radnick104
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* Why is it that almost none of the suspects they interrogate ask for a lawyer immediately? Some of them are repeat offenders who at the very least should have an idea about their right to remain silent. This makes no sense.
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5th Jul '16 1:38:42 AM kundoo
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** He was in the middle of making such an excuse when he noticed the little girl. Then he changed his mind. He probably wanted to torment Olivia more by threatening and/or hurting a child in front of her. Also he doesn't seem to be the kind of hostage taker who wants to avoid any trouble.
27th Mar '16 7:37:43 PM Alexaxle
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[[folder: Nick Amaro's character arc]]
Warren Leight said that the reason Nick was written out is that Danny and TPTB both felt that Nick's character arc had reached its conclusion, and there was no way for Nick to be a cop after what he had done. Begging the question: Why did they write that in in the first place?! Why did they make Nick an Elliot-lite when they already had an interesting, unique character angle in Season 13? If they had kept the focus on Nick's skill with interrogation/empathy they could have had a completely new character instead of a rehash of Elliot, and thus wouldn't have needed to write him off that way!
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[[folder: Carisi]]
What's the point of Carisi? He is, honestly, incredibly stupid and yet the writers insist he's incredibly skilled, just green. But then they have him save child porn from a case on his tablet for evidence, not realizing that possession is a crime even for cops, especially on a person tablet. That's like putting a murderer's blood-covered coat in your laundry! Are we really supposed to believe Carisi is a competent cop and may have passed the NY bar exam on his 'first try'?
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2nd Feb '16 6:08:53 PM redshirt26
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[[folder: "Pornstar's Requiem" Verdict]]
Three things bugged me about this episode:
* Why didn't the District Attorney re-direct the victim when the Defense Attorney argued that she performs in rape roleplay porn so there was no way for the defendants to know she wasn't consenting? It wouldn't be that hard to ask "When you perform, do you give consent offscreen to your costars who pretend to rape you?"
* Why did the Judge set aside the verdict? It seems like there was enough evidence to convict and it was up to the jury to decide who was telling the truth, the victim or the defendants. The jury didn't disregard any of the judge's instructions. If I was on that jury, I would've ended up in Contempt of Court for asking why the Honorable Son of a Bitch wasted my time forcing me to hear details of something I don't want to hear for no good reason.
* How didn't that end with everyone giving up? The DA bitches at the judge. The cops walk away. The victim goes back to porn because "With all my choices taken away, this is the only choice I have left." This case screamed "appeal on 6th Amendment grounds". Every episode starts by mentioning how dedicated these people are and they end the show with "Sorry you couldn't get justice. Enjoy getting trained."
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