History Headscratchers / LandOfOz

27th Mar '17 12:12:58 PM Roo
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*** That can't really be it, since he quite often has himself re-stuffed with fresh straw whenever he wants to look more presentable or just wants to feel fresher. In the first book alone, he's re-stuffed with fresh straw twice -- the first time because he wants to look presentable for his fist meeting with the Wizard, the second time when he's restored after being torn apart by the Winged Monkeys. In the second book, there's a scene where all his straw is stolen by jackdaws, and no more straw is available, so his friends re-stuff him with paper money instead. This doesn't change his character any, and the only difference is that the others will occasionally comment on how rich he is. Though Baum later regretted this particular plot point, called it "a bad mistake" and quietly RetConned it away so that in all further books the Scarecrow is back to being stuffed with straw, it all very clearly confirms that it's not the ''straw'' that's alive.
17th Jun '16 8:31:45 PM Doug86
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*** In OneOverZero strip 660 ([[http://www.undefined.net/1/0/?strip=660]]) they decide that Zadok's personality isn't chained to any particular body part, it remains there if at least half of his body is intact. This makes a lots of sense if you think how in the real world a human can keep his personality even if many cells of his brain die every day.

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*** In OneOverZero Webcomic/OneOverZero strip 660 ([[http://www.undefined.net/1/0/?strip=660]]) they decide that Zadok's personality isn't chained to any particular body part, it remains there if at least half of his body is intact. This makes a lots of sense if you think how in the real world a human can keep his personality even if many cells of his brain die every day.
24th May '16 2:42:34 AM Roo
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* Has anyone seen or heard from the Wicked Witch of the South since Glinda got done with her?

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* Has anyone seen or heard from the Wicked Witch of the South since Glinda got done with her?her?
** She appears in two non-canonical Oz books; ''The Wicked Witch of Oz'' by Rachel Cosgrove Payes, and the comic ''The Enchanted Apples of Oz'' by Eric Shanower. Both these books depict her a having been put into an enchanted sleep after her defeat.
19th Apr '16 5:19:54 PM Homemaderat
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** That's the later books. Glinda may not have been as powerful back in the first book; she could have learned more and gained more magic later on. Granted, even in the first book she is named as the most powerful Witch in Oz, but it's not said ''how'' much more powerful she is than the other three. The two Wicked Witches together might have been too much for her, so she may have simply focused on keeping her domain in the South safe rather than risking a confrontation with an uncertain outcome.

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** That's the later books. Glinda may not have been as powerful back in the first book; she could have learned more and gained more magic later on. Granted, even in the first book she is named as the most powerful Witch in Oz, but it's not said ''how'' much more powerful she is than the other three. The two Wicked Witches together might have been too much for her, so she may have simply focused on keeping her domain in the South safe rather than risking a confrontation with an uncertain outcome.outcome.

* Has anyone seen or heard from the Wicked Witch of the South since Glinda got done with her?
27th Aug '15 11:02:30 PM Omeganian
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** It's actually stated she doesn't quite stay the same person - her meeting with Dorothy went badly partly because she chose a pretty, but badly tempered head to wear.
19th Mar '14 5:17:26 AM SharleeD
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** It makes more sense if you think of both the Wizard ''and'' the Scarecrow as Regents, not kings. They only held the throne until the legitimate heir was available.
14th Jun '13 11:30:41 AM Roo
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* Why didn't Glinda overthrow the Wicked Witches all by herself, even before Dorothy arrived? Judging by the stuff she pulls off in the later books, she's more powerful than both of them combined.

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* Why didn't Glinda overthrow the Wicked Witches all by herself, even before Dorothy arrived? Judging by the stuff she pulls off in the later books, she's more powerful than both of them combined.combined.
** That's the later books. Glinda may not have been as powerful back in the first book; she could have learned more and gained more magic later on. Granted, even in the first book she is named as the most powerful Witch in Oz, but it's not said ''how'' much more powerful she is than the other three. The two Wicked Witches together might have been too much for her, so she may have simply focused on keeping her domain in the South safe rather than risking a confrontation with an uncertain outcome.
8th Jun '13 8:59:37 PM ramapith
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** I think one of the Oz book after Baum's death explained that the Scarecrow's soul came from a monarch from another kingdom. Still, this being Oz, "AWizardDidIt" is the perhaps the best explanation.
*** If you check his origin story, he came "alive" just as they were painting his face. I suppose the farmers unwittingly used magic paint.

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** I think one of the Oz book books after Baum's death explained that the Scarecrow's soul came from a monarch from another kingdom. Still, this being Oz, "AWizardDidIt" is the perhaps the best explanation.
*** The book is ''The Royal Book of Oz'', the first by Ruth Plumly Thompson. The monarch was Emperor Chang Wang Woe of the Silver Islands, an underground Oz kingdom similar to medieval China. Chang's soul rose "skyward" from directly under Munchkinland and inhabited the Scarecrow, though he had/has no memory of his previous life—and no interest in returning to it.
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If you check his origin story, he came "alive" just as they were painting his face. I suppose the farmers unwittingly used magic paint.paint.
*** See ''The Royal Book of Oz'' data above.
22nd Apr '13 10:11:56 PM Sikon
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*** And Baum's aren't? You've just described ''Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz'', ''The Emerald City of Oz'', ''The Tin Woodman of Oz'' and who knows what else.
12th Apr '13 12:28:35 AM Sikon
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** The out-of-universe answer is that Baum gave the Wizard some KickTheDog moments in the backstory presented in ''Marvelous Land'' to better fit with the musical, in which the Wicked Witch of the West was left out and the Wizard was the villain of the story. It didn't stick, and by ''Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz'' he revised the Wizard into a more sympathetic figure, quietly retconning the backstory. Ozma tells him a part of the revised backstory, though she never mentions how, in the new version, she was kidnapped by Mombi to be disguised as a boy. I think if Baum ever got to writing ''that'', he would, in his usual fashion, quietly forget about the Wizard willingly giving Ozma away and write something different.
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