History Headscratchers / Knowing

26th Jun '17 2:57:04 AM Wraithfighter
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** While smacking closed-minded scientists is always fun, let's look at it outside of the perspective of a film. He's presented with a series of numbers, half of which happen to line up with a series of events and the other half are unexplained, and the cause is... a schoolgirl got visions. Sometimes, you roll a natural 20 on a d20 five times in a row, because random chance just sometimes works out like that. The data is weird, but the proposed answer (A random, ordinary schoolgirl is having visions of future mass-death disasters) is far, far more improbable than "...wow, crazy odds, huh?". IIRC, he doesn't start taking things seriously until the other half of the numbers are explained.
26th Jun '17 2:49:54 AM Wraithfighter
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**** So, screw the billions of people that had never even heard of this little girl? The clues only seem to make sense in an OrangeAndBlueMorality sense, where "It's okay if you don't understand what's going on, that's the point!" is the default state.



** With heat was instantly vapourising entire cities, there would be no food or anything else left. The surface would be rock and ash and more rock and more ash. In fact, you see the atmosphere being blown off the planet in the final shot of the Earth. Nobody would survive that, no matter what they are in when it happens.

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** With heat was instantly vapourising entire cities, there would be no food or anything else left. The surface would be rock and ash and more rock and more ash. In fact, you see the atmosphere being blown off the planet in the final shot of the Earth. Nobody would survive that, no matter what they are in when it happens.happens.
** First, a young girl seeing a vision of global catastrophe is unlikely to scrawl a note with a lengthy asterisk. Second, even if some people do manage to survive, they'd only be people used to surviving in a normal economy, and would be inexperienced at farming. Maybe a small handful would survive the day, but die out slowly once food runs out/spoils and no one can grow more.
26th Jun '17 1:48:03 AM Wraithfighter
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*** Except that the disaster that got Koestler's attention was 9/11. The entire reason he took it at all seriously was because he recognized 91101 as being a notable sequence of digits (...and understandably so, given how 9/11 has shaped things). There are many causes and factors behind 9/11, but you'd have to reaaaaaally stretch things to include solar flares.
26th Jun '17 1:41:52 AM Wraithfighter
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*** There are definitely athiests in foxholes. I imagine that was the intention of the filmmakers (given some of Koestler's HollywoodAthiest attitudes earlier in the film), but one could just as easily say that Koestler was having a mental breakdown as a result of, well, end of the world, son taken away, aliens being reveals as existing, it's been a long ass day, dude is entitled to not make a lick of sense.

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*** There are definitely athiests in foxholes. I imagine that was the intention of the filmmakers (given some of Koestler's HollywoodAthiest attitudes earlier in the film), but one could just as easily say that Koestler was having a mental breakdown as a result of, well, end of the world, son taken away, aliens being reveals revealed as existing, it's been a long ass day, dude is entitled to not make a lick of sense.
26th Jun '17 1:39:43 AM Wraithfighter
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*** There are definitely athiests in foxholes. I imagine that was the intention of the filmmakers (given some of Koestler's StrawAthiest attitudes earlier in the film), but one could just as easily say that Koestler was having a mental breakdown as a result of, well, end of the world, son taken away, aliens being reveals as existing, it's been a long ass day, dude is entitled to not make a lick of sense.

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*** There are definitely athiests in foxholes. I imagine that was the intention of the filmmakers (given some of Koestler's StrawAthiest HollywoodAthiest attitudes earlier in the film), but one could just as easily say that Koestler was having a mental breakdown as a result of, well, end of the world, son taken away, aliens being reveals as existing, it's been a long ass day, dude is entitled to not make a lick of sense.
26th Jun '17 1:39:16 AM Wraithfighter
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*** There are definitely athiests in foxholes. I imagine that was the intention of the filmmakers (given some of Koestler's StrawAthiest attitudes earlier in the film), but one could just as easily say that Koestler was having a mental breakdown as a result of, well, end of the world, son taken away, aliens being reveals as existing, it's been a long ass day, dude is entitled to not make a lick of sense.
9th Feb '17 5:11:28 PM FuzzyWulfe
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** It would also be helpful that he brings sign language with him so they don't have to invent it again. There's a chance someone could be born deaf down the line or become so from injury or illness. Caleb's father states he's a master at sign language.
7th Feb '17 6:58:43 PM wistan
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** If memory serves, the minimum survival population (e.g. won't die out due to reinforced recessives through inbreeding in a few generations) for humans is around 200 to 500 individuals. The odds of that many fluke survivals within a small enough area to establish that population are astronomically low.

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** If memory serves, the minimum survival population (e.g. won't die out due to reinforced recessives through inbreeding in a few generations) for humans is around 200 to 500 individuals. The odds of that many fluke survivals within a small enough area to establish that population are astronomically low.low.
** With heat was instantly vapourising entire cities, there would be no food or anything else left. The surface would be rock and ash and more rock and more ash. In fact, you see the atmosphere being blown off the planet in the final shot of the Earth. Nobody would survive that, no matter what they are in when it happens.
25th Nov '15 3:15:01 PM CaptEquinox
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*** You're right, many ships, lots of children. That tree was ''huge'' and there were many people gathered around it. They would have taken people from all over Earth. (This movie's whole premise is very similar to [[Literature/ThePeople Zenna Henderson's "People" stories]], except the other way around; the People were aliens, made their own ships and came to Earth when their planet did this.) There might have been adults too; the aliens said they took anyone who could ''hear them''. That doesn't mean necessarily just children.
25th Nov '15 3:04:25 PM CaptEquinox
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*** And Easter and the resurrection.


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*** That's Central Auditory Processing Disorder. Sometimes people who have it will just say "I'm a bit deaf" or "I'm half deaf" as a sort of TLDR.
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