History Headscratchers / KamenRiderDouble

24th Nov '17 6:31:15 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* Fang uses Phillip's body. Since Phillip is absorbed into the Xtreme Memory...

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* *** Fang uses Phillip's body. Since Phillip is absorbed into the Xtreme Memory...



* Xtreme memory is indeed how you have describe it. However, the very fact they transform into Kamen Rider [=CycloneJokerXtreme=] instead of Kamen Rider Xtreme, proves that Xtreme Memory isn't the only memory involved in the transformation.
** Then how do you explain the Cyclone and Joker Memories appearing outside [=CycloneJokerXtreme=]? It could just simply be that it's called [=CycloneJokerXtreme=] because he transforms using the Xtreme Memory in [=CycloneJoker=] Form.

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* *** Xtreme memory is indeed how you have describe it. However, the very fact they transform into Kamen Rider [=CycloneJokerXtreme=] instead of Kamen Rider Xtreme, proves that Xtreme Memory isn't the only memory involved in the transformation.
** **** Then how do you explain the Cyclone and Joker Memories appearing outside [=CycloneJokerXtreme=]? It could just simply be that it's called [=CycloneJokerXtreme=] because he transforms using the Xtreme Memory in [=CycloneJoker=] Form.
24th Nov '17 6:30:08 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** Technically, [=FangAccelXtreme=] ''would'' be possible if you used the T2 versions of those memories (since T2 Fang has the same shape a normal refined Gaia memory), but Shroud likely was already planning [=CAX=] long before those memories were created (note that at the time that she mentions said form, the T2 memories were likely complete, since they show up next episode). Although considering that the T2 Accel memory didn't go to Ryu in ''W Forever'', it's possible that Ryu has enough synchronization with Accel to use Accel/Accel Trial normally and to use [=CAX=], but ''not'' enough to keep Fang in check using either Accel.



** According to official info, while [=FangMetal=] and [=FangTrigger=] are ''possible'', they would also send Double out of control. Only Shotaro's high synchronicity with the Joker Memory can keep Fang in check.

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** According to official info, while [=FangMetal=] and [=FangTrigger=] are ''possible'', they would also send Double out of control. Only Shotaro's high synchronicity synchronization with the Joker Memory can keep Fang in check.
24th Nov '17 6:08:12 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** He promised that whoever found the Joker Memory could join his group as one of them. It could be that he wanted to have as many dopants on his side as possible (since the only memories aside from Joker that his group doesn't find on their own are Accel, Key, and Bird), but just didn't take into account the possibility of someone obtaining a spare Lost Driver (especially since in the series and the movie, aside from the one that Eternal uses, there's a total of 1-2 other Lost Drivers, [[spoiler: depending on if that was Skull's another one that Shotaro used to become Joker]]).

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** He promised that whoever found the Joker Memory could join his group as one of them. It could be that he wanted to have as many dopants on his side as possible (since the only memories aside from Joker that his group doesn't find on their own are Accel, Key, and Bird), but just didn't take into account the possibility of someone obtaining a spare Lost Driver (especially since in the series and the movie, aside from the one that Eternal uses, there's a total of 1-2 other Lost Drivers, [[spoiler: depending on if that was Skull's or another one that Shotaro used to become Joker]]).







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** At the moment, the only thing they had to go on was that it froze the victims - if the dopant had killed victims in other ways that could've been related to weather (i.e., drowning them with rainwater, electrocuting them with lightning), then he probably would've made the connection. He had no reason to suspect that it was a memory related to weather in general at the moment.
24th Nov '17 5:56:32 PM RoarkTenjouin
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** He promised that whoever found the Joker Memory could join his group as one of them. It could be that he wanted to have as many dopants on his side as possible (since the only memories aside from Joker that his group doesn't find on their own are Accel, Key, and Bird), but just didn't take into account the possibility of someone obtaining a spare Lost Driver (especially since in the series and the movie, aside from the one that Eternal uses, there's a total of 1-2 other Lost Drivers, [[spoiler: depending on if that was Skull's another one that Shotaro used to become Joker]]).
10th Nov '17 11:03:35 PM RoarkTenjouin
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\n*** Ryu never had the memory, actually - it was Queen and Elizabeth who gave the memory to Shotaro and Phillip after finding it, not Ryu, and Ryu never had the T2 version of the Accel memory in his possession. That doesn't explain why he doesn't try and go straight into Accel Trial though[[note]]since it's never been established if he has to start in regular Accel before transforming into Accel Trial, like Double with CJX[[/note]].




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**** Akiko doesn't know about the multiverse, so she likely was only considering what could possibly happen in the universe she knew of.




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** The Spider Dopant's ability likely [[spoiler: only applied to who the person had the most affection towards ''at the time'' - Sokichi didn't really get to know Shotaro until after the event; meaning even if he cared more for Shotaro than for Akiko at some point, the bomb would still only target Akiko]].



** Watch when he goes unconscious. More often than not, he puts a hand down to catch himself rather than collide face-first with the floor (yes, this is the actor not wanting to break his nose, but it could just as easily be a last reflex for Philip before his consciousness fully transfers to Double).

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** Watch when he goes unconscious. More often than not, he puts a hand down to catch himself rather than collide face-first with the floor (yes, this is the actor not wanting to break his nose, but it could just as easily be a last reflex for Philip before his consciousness fully transfers to Double).Double).

* If the T2 memories seek out the person they're the most compatable with, why didn't the Fang and Accel Memories seek out Phillip and Ryu respectively? I can understand why the T2 Cyclone memory didn't seek out Phillip, since it was already more compatible with someone else ([[spoiler: Maria S. Cranberry]]), but logically speaking, after Cyclone, Fang is the memory most associated with Phillip, and since there's no T2 Trial memory, the Accel memory should've gone straight to Ryu.
31st Aug '17 8:57:21 AM ddyingle
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** Except that's imposible because their's no Memory Driver that can support four memories(because the Xtreme Memory's two ports makes it count as two memories

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** Except that's imposible because their's no Memory Driver that can support four memories(because memories (because the Xtreme Memory's two ports makes it count as two memoriesmemories.



** Watch when he goes unconscious. More often than not, he puts a hand down to catch himself rather than collide face-first with the floor (yes, this is the actor not wanting to break his nose, but it could just as easily be a last reflex for Philip before his consciousness fully transfers to Double).

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** Watch when he goes unconscious. More often than not, he puts a hand down to catch himself rather than collide face-first with the floor (yes, this is the actor not wanting to break his nose, but it could just as easily be a last reflex for Philip before his consciousness fully transfers to Double).
3rd Nov '15 9:07:07 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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*** Well, with the removable Shoulder Fang, it ''could'' be possible to make a weapon to ''better'' tear enemies apart (a spearhead for the Metal Rod, and a bayonette for the Trigger Magnum)? Besides, certain martial arts (as portrayed in [[JuushinEnbu anime]] or [[Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger live action tv]], at least) rely on focusing your anger/spirit energy/whatever into a weapon, so...

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*** Well, with the removable Shoulder Fang, it ''could'' be possible to make a weapon to ''better'' tear enemies apart (a spearhead for the Metal Rod, and a bayonette for the Trigger Magnum)? Besides, certain martial arts (as portrayed in [[JuushinEnbu [[Manga/HeroTales anime]] or [[Series/JukenSentaiGekiranger live action tv]], at least) rely on focusing your anger/spirit energy/whatever into a weapon, so...
31st Mar '15 6:04:11 PM OathToOblivion
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** According to official info, while [=FangMetal=] and [-FangTrigger=] are ''possible'', they would also send Double out of control. Only Shotaro's high synchronicity with the Joker Memory can keep Fang in check.

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** According to official info, while [=FangMetal=] and [-FangTrigger=] [=FangTrigger=] are ''possible'', they would also send Double out of control. Only Shotaro's high synchronicity with the Joker Memory can keep Fang in check.
31st Mar '15 6:03:53 PM OathToOblivion
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** According to official info, while [=FangMetal=] and [-FangTrigger=] are ''possible'', they would also send Double out of control. Only Shotaro's high synchronicity with the Joker Memory can keep Fang in check.
22nd Feb '14 7:51:24 PM Loonrider
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* Since Philip goes unconscious and faints when he henshins, wouldn't it be safer for him to do the process lying down instead of hoping to land on something soft and/or waiting for someone to catch him? (Admittedly, that wouldn't make for great television...)

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* Since Philip goes unconscious and faints when he henshins, wouldn't it be safer for him to do the process lying down instead of hoping to land on something soft and/or waiting for someone to catch him? (Admittedly, that wouldn't make for great television...))
**Watch when he goes unconscious. More often than not, he puts a hand down to catch himself rather than collide face-first with the floor (yes, this is the actor not wanting to break his nose, but it could just as easily be a last reflex for Philip before his consciousness fully transfers to Double).
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