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23rd Apr '13 1:40:24 PM MrDeath

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23rd Apr '13 1:16:31 PM SeanRenaud

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* Why would the destruction of Earth Prime have effected anything else?  The explanation that we are given is that the universe functions more or less like a tree.  (Work with me for a second) and that Earth Prime is either the seed or the roots and either way nothing else can exist without it but that doesn't really make sense (unless there is some time travel involved as well that simply isn't mentioned.)  because what happens on Earth Prime should be no more important to what happens on Earth (whatever number this story takes place on) than say your parents or grand parents have on you.  Sure they exist but killing them today won't wink you out of existence.  
* Owlman mentions that while he doesn't know how Earth Prime became a wasteland he does know that it was the fault of human choice.  How exactly does that square with his idea that there are worlds where no fish was brave enough to crawl up out of the ocean and thus man never evolved?  That seems to be a rather major hiccup in his philosophy.

22nd Apr '13 10:17:53 PM urutapu

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* Owlman says that the multiverse consists of every possible universe where every possible choice was taken. So wouldn't there be a combination of universes where Batman was unable to stop Owlman, causing the multiverse to end no matter what?
**  Not necessarily. Owlman obviously believes this is so, but his theory was not conclusively proven as true. We see a myriad of possibilities, but no proof that ''every'' possibility is incarnate in this multiverse beyond his word.
** WordOfGod says that Owlman's plan was doomed from the start because as soon as any free-will choice occurs on Earth-Prime, it splits off two Earth-Not-Quite-Primes where the possible choices play out, leaving the actual CosmicKeystone world undisturbed. Something like this has to be the case. If Earth Prime remained unique, then every possible Owlman with destructive intent would show up there at once. They would crush each other by their sheer mass.
* Why wouldn't Owlman just abort the QED in the end, wait until he was fairly certain that Batman was off of Earth Prime, then go back and finish the job? Though it does make sense when you consider his NietzscheWannabe philosophy.
** The dimensional shifter may not have had enough power to make the jump, especially with something as big as the [=QED=], to which one might say that he was probably carrying a backup power cell (though Owlman isn't necessarily as CrazyPrepared as Batman; in the comics he simply has a drug-fuelled enhanced intellect). Alternatively, he may have simply decided that doing nothing was no more or less valid a choice than doing something because it didn't matter.
** There is another way of looking at it if you want to potentially give the writers more credit than they likely deserve in over thinking this. This was Earth Prime. Any Owlman from a vaguely similar Earth should have showed up there. Sure, some would have shown up on Earth Almost Primes, but still only Owlman and Batman showed up. This would imply only this Owlman made it this far. Drug fueled or natural, Owlman likely noticed this. He was the only variation that made it that far, that almost succeeded, a fluke. Then, he failed. He may have come to the conclusion that all other attempts were stopped somehow by providence/destiny/etc. He was stopped. Attempting to destroy Earth Prime is impossible.
** Or, as he himself said at the end, it truly doesn't matter. According to Owlman's theory, it didn't matter if he chose not to stop the QED from going off--because at the instant he made that choice, that universe split into two, with him making the opposite choice on the other ice-world universe. If Owlman is right, it truly didn't matter if he died, because somewhere else, he didn't.
* Apparently the only choices that matter in the multiverse are of humans on Earth?
** All DC canon aside, The movie was about the multidimensional choices of the planet Earth. So for the Planet Earth, the choices on Earth matter. For example, If we take Martian Manhunter - there has to be an Earth were he never left Mars (for whatever reason), meaning there must be multidimensional Marses where x happens but y doesn't and etc etc.
*** Both "Earth Prime" and "Mars Prime" and every other world would basically occupy a "Universe Prime", which is probably another reason Owlman was doomed to fail- he is far too Earth-centric and human-centric to appreciate how complex the system he's trying to destroy really is. Given his intelligence, this is probably a sign of how insanely misanthropic he really is, even more than he appears to be.
* When the Q.E.D. is armed, a window appears that says "Abort: Yes/No". I can guess what pressing "yes" does, but what does pressing "no" do, seeing as it's already on a timer?
** [[WildMassGuessing Makes it impossible to shut down or override?]]
** It's there in case it was armed by mistake. If you armed it on purpose, then "no" is what you press.

23rd Dec '12 12:11:41 AM Eagal

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