History Headscratchers / JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths

8th Mar '17 2:14:42 AM DoctorNemesis
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** There may be billions ''trying'', but it doesn't follow that there are billions ''succeeding'' in trying. If every choice creates two timelines, then there are those who chose a different method which ended up in a dead end, those which accidentally blew themselves up before they could get anywhere, those who were stopped sooner, and so forth.
8th Mar '17 2:12:46 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Owlman is a nihilist with a generally low opinion of humanity. He doesn't know for certain, but simply believes that Earth Prime was destroyed by humans because he believes humanity is fundamentally destructive and malevolent. It's simply a reflection of his own biases and prejudices.
8th Mar '17 1:39:19 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** [[Series/{{Angel}} Because if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.]] And destroying the entirety of reality is a pretty epic thing to do even if it doesn't matter.

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*** [[Series/{{Angel}} Because if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.]] And if nothing else, destroying the entirety of reality is a pretty much more interesting and epic thing to do than just lying in bed every day waiting for death even if it doesn't matter.to a nihilist both actions matter as little as each other in the long run.
8th Mar '17 1:36:34 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** [[Series/{{Angel}} Because if nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.]] And destroying the entirety of reality is a pretty epic thing to do even if it doesn't matter.
7th Mar '17 8:14:20 PM DoctorNemesis
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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him from the start. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't want to die or risk sacrificing the whole of reality at Owlman's hands just to allow himself the moral satisfaction of never causing someone's death and, frankly, it would be a morally unforgivable act of foolishness if he did. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.

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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, at several points Batman tries numerous ways goes out of his way to try and incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him from the start. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't want to die or risk sacrificing the whole of reality at Owlman's hands just to allow himself the moral satisfaction of never causing someone's death and, frankly, it would be a morally unforgivable act of foolishness if he did. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.
7th Mar '17 5:15:12 PM DoctorNemesis
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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't want to die or risk sacrificing the whole of reality at Owlman's hands just to allow himself the moral satisfaction of never causing someone's death and, frankly, it would be a morally unforgivable act of foolishness if he did. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.

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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him.him from the start. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't want to die or risk sacrificing the whole of reality at Owlman's hands just to allow himself the moral satisfaction of never causing someone's death and, frankly, it would be a morally unforgivable act of foolishness if he did. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.
7th Mar '17 5:13:06 PM DoctorNemesis
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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.

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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him. But ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't want to die or risk sacrificing the whole of reality at Owlman's hands just to allow himself the moral satisfaction of never causing someone's death and, frankly, it would be a morally unforgivable act of foolishness if he did. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.
7th Mar '17 5:09:41 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Plus, even if Batman ''thinks'' that Owlman's plan doesn't work, he doesn't want to risk ''possibly being wrong'' and everything going boom.

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** Plus, even if Batman ''thinks'' that Owlman's plan doesn't won't work, he doesn't want to risk ''possibly being wrong'' and everything going boom.



** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure in the possibility of anyone's death. But in this case, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either causing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, ultimately that's no choice at all.

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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure or satisfaction in the possibility of anyone's death. If you look at their final fight scene, Batman tries numerous ways to incapacitate Owlman in a non-lethal fashion and could have had a much easier time against him if he just took the gloves off and aimed to kill him. But in this case, ultimately, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can.can and has no compunction about killing Batman in order to do so. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either causing Batman causing[=/=]allowing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, including himself, ultimately that's no choice at all.
14th Feb '17 5:18:02 AM DoctorNemesis
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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure in the possibility of anyone's death. But in this case, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either causing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, ultimately that's no choice at all.

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** I think we do also have to chalk this up to "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". When we say the League don't kill, we might be better saying the League don't kill on a whim, or because it's more convenient, convenient and easier, or to satisfy some sadistic impulse, or to give themselves more power and authority over others. They try as hard as possible to save everyone, including their enemies, and take no pleasure in the possibility of anyone's death. But in this case, Owlman is a nihilistic OmnicidalManiac who is trying to blow up literally the entire multiverse just because he can. Batman doesn't ''want'' to kill Owlman. He tries hard ''not'' to kill Owlman. But if it comes down to a choice between either causing Owlman's death or Owlman causing the deaths of literally everything living thing ever, ultimately that's no choice at all.
8th Feb '17 6:24:12 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Because [[ComicallyMissingThePoint Osama Bin Laden wasn't a US citizen.]]
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