History Headscratchers / JohnDiesAtTheEnd

22nd Oct '16 7:21:58 AM SirSapphire
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** The cop ''does'' use Robert's real name in is interrogation of Dave and Dave promptly forgot. Dave is editing his story as he tells it and using the only name he remembers.
22nd Oct '16 7:16:25 AM SirSapphire
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** There's also the possibility that Monster Dave won't go evil because he has John. John's antics are so crazy that it grounds Dave.
22nd May '15 3:06:31 PM pollenruins
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** This can also be explained by Arnie [[spoiler:being dead]]. This is implied by Dave noting that Arnie saw the wig monster in the crate usually fast. [[spoiler:Something about Arnie being dead allows him to remember some of the changes and to see the wig monster more easily then most.]]

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** This can also be explained by Arnie [[spoiler:being dead]]. This is implied by Dave noting that Arnie saw the wig monster in the crate usually fast. [[spoiler:Something about Arnie being dead allows him to remember some of the changes and to see the wig monster more easily then most.than most-- probably because hes an astral body at least partly projected by Dave, something possible because of the soy sauce.]]
18th May '15 4:17:35 PM Discar
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*** Except that doesn't fit. There is a limit on how far back the shadow people can go, and the meat computer has only been sentient for 77 years. That doesn't explain how South American tribes and ancient Egyptians have a old mythology about Korrok. However, Korrok mentions to Dave alone that people build him into their universe, just like how he's got people in Dave's universe building him there. More likely, Korrok is a being that already existed for thousands of years and either possessed the meat computer when it "miraculously" gained sentience the day after its creator died, or it manipulated the creator into making it to serve as the body for his consciousness in that dimension. Either way, he convinced the universe to follow him by claiming to be the most advanced supercomputer ever.

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*** ** Except that doesn't fit. There is a limit on how far back the shadow people can go, and the meat computer has only been sentient for 77 years. That doesn't explain how South American tribes and ancient Egyptians have a old mythology about Korrok. However, Korrok mentions to Dave alone that people build him into their universe, just like how he's got people in Dave's universe building him there. More likely, Korrok is a being that already existed for thousands of years and either possessed the meat computer when it "miraculously" gained sentience the day after its creator died, or it manipulated the creator into making it to serve as the body for his consciousness in that dimension. Either way, he convinced the universe to follow him by claiming to be the most advanced supercomputer ever.



*** It's implied also that [[spoiler: They specifically have plans to use Monster Dave to further their goals. Possibly they need John for this too. Since they proved to Monster Dave that they can erase Amy from history any time they want, they more or less have him by the balls.]]

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*** ** It's implied also that [[spoiler: They specifically have plans to use Monster Dave to further their goals. Possibly they need John for this too. Since they proved to Monster Dave that they can erase Amy from history any time they want, they more or less have him by the balls.]]



*** It's said that Robert once lived in the Mall where one of the Ghost Doors to the Interdimensional Bazaar is located. It's possible that the people behind that place were the people supplying him in hopes of spreading the Sauce.

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*** ** It's said that Robert once lived in the Mall where one of the Ghost Doors to the Interdimensional Bazaar is located. It's possible that the people behind that place were the people supplying him in hopes of spreading the Sauce.



*** Also, it's more a mannequin than a robot. But that makes the hole "bag full of fat" deal even weirder. Did they just expect the people on this side to not notice if they sent a bag with her exact weight in her place?
**** I was under the impression that the mannequin was a failed attempt to switch Amy with monster Amy. Like they tried to beam monster Amy in but it didn't work, and all that they managed to get across were some unassembled raw materials (the mannequin and the bag of fat)
***** Yea, I suspected that but... they had already sent ''two'' monster people into our world. Why were they still experimenting? From the moment they got [[spoiler:Monster Dave]] in, they were already proficient in doing that.
****** The bag of fat (at least) was from the intermediary world, the pocket dimension which is and isn't part of the homeworld of John, Dave, and Amy. Until the very last example ([[spoiler: Monster Amy]], who was only in our world for a few moments and might have been about to experience snapback anyway), all of the so-called Monster People were "special cases".
***** It might be a sort of EquivalentExchange situation. In order to take something from this world, they have to send something of equal mass in its place.

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*** ** Also, it's more a mannequin than a robot. But that makes the hole "bag full of fat" deal even weirder. Did they just expect the people on this side to not notice if they sent a bag with her exact weight in her place?
**** ** I was under the impression that the mannequin was a failed attempt to switch Amy with monster Amy. Like they tried to beam monster Amy in but it didn't work, and all that they managed to get across were some unassembled raw materials (the mannequin and the bag of fat)
***** ** Yea, I suspected that but... they had already sent ''two'' monster people into our world. Why were they still experimenting? From the moment they got [[spoiler:Monster Dave]] in, they were already proficient in doing that.
****** ** The bag of fat (at least) was from the intermediary world, the pocket dimension which is and isn't part of the homeworld of John, Dave, and Amy. Until the very last example ([[spoiler: Monster Amy]], who was only in our world for a few moments and might have been about to experience snapback anyway), all of the so-called Monster People were "special cases".
***** ** It might be a sort of EquivalentExchange situation. In order to take something from this world, they have to send something of equal mass in its place.
18th May '15 4:17:09 PM Discar
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* In the book, someone sends Dave Scooby-Doo glasses, and it later turns out Amy can see all the weird stuff (including her phantom hand) through them. In the movie, Dave just randomly gives her the glasses to see the ghost door. Where did the glasses come from and how did he know they would work?

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* In the book, someone sends Dave Scooby-Doo glasses, and it later turns out Amy can see all the weird stuff (including her phantom hand) through them. In the movie, Dave just randomly gives her the glasses to see the ghost door. Where did the glasses come from and how did he know they would work?work?

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17th May '15 9:07:54 PM PsychoGecko
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*** Except that doesn't fit. There is a limit on how far back the shadow people can go, and the meat computer has only been sentient for 77 years. That doesn't explain how South American tribes and ancient Egyptians have a old mythology about Korrok. However, Korrok mentions to Dave alone that people build him into their universe, just like how he's got people in Dave's universe building him there. More likely, Korrok is a being that already existed for thousands of years and either possessed the meat computer when it "miraculously" gained sentience the day after its creator died, or it manipulated the creator into making it to serve as the body for his consciousness in that dimension. Either way, he convinced the universe to follow him by claiming to be the most advanced supercomputer ever.
11th Mar '15 8:04:17 PM TunaFrank
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**They probably did. However as John points out, Dave is terrible at learning people's names and since Dave is narrating the story we get stuck with Bob Marley.
26th Feb '14 11:54:12 AM Amake
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** In a deleted scene in the movie Robert North explains that very thing: If the two worlds are like two items of clothing woven from the same thread, the cave portal place thingy is the thread.
9th Dec '13 10:03:00 PM Chaos624
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** This can also be explained by Arnie [[spoiler:being dead]]. This is implied by John noting that Arnie saw the wig monster in the crate usually fast. [[spoiler:Something about Arnie being dead allows him to remember some of the changes and to see the wig monster more easily then most.]]

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** This can also be explained by Arnie [[spoiler:being dead]]. This is implied by John Dave noting that Arnie saw the wig monster in the crate usually fast. [[spoiler:Something about Arnie being dead allows him to remember some of the changes and to see the wig monster more easily then most.]]
** Book 2 shows that changes made by the Shadow Men update almost instantly even if it should result in a paradox. [[spoiler: They erase Amy's hand resulting in Amy having the ghost hand that allowed them to reach that point in the first place.]] Too many changes happening at once means that some people will remember things one way while everyone else will think it's always been that way.
8th Jul '13 11:37:50 AM RHJunior
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** Possible reason: the Shadow Men are from the future (hinted at by how they are some sort of time travelers, as they can erase someone entirely from the past)-- in which case if they erase too much from the past they risk erasing their own existence or even their own universe entire.


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