History Headscratchers / IndependenceDay

22nd Aug '17 2:24:00 PM Antediluvial
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** Area 51 is officially a base for testing aircraft; it's not an active military facility, so heavy aircraft munitions like guided bombs, bunker busters and nuclear weapons would not be stored there. The base would only really have air to air missiles on hand, but even then that's stretching it due to it's nature as a test site. While other intact bases (however few there were) would logically have nukes and heavy firepower available, it's probably wise not to hit each city destroyer with a nuke, due to the radiation and "nuclear winter" concerns.
30th Jul '17 11:00:26 AM LtFedora
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30th Jul '17 10:58:19 AM LtFedora
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** This was the first time they had a means to communicate with the aliens that didn't involve lasers. Whitmore used this in the slim hope that they could find a peaceful solution. Then, when the alien attacked the president, one of the few government officials still standing, that was their cue to blow it to hell.

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** The novel clarifies the first attack. Steve explains that his team's attack is merely a probing strike to assess the aliens' defenses, and a second wave would provide heavier firepower. As for the second one, they were fighting with whatever they had on hand. The aliens had systematically attacked most American bases, after all.
16th Jul '17 10:16:02 AM nombretomado
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** Taking a page from human history, it is typical for invaders to ride on local infrastructure whenever possible to reduce their own cost or effort. For example, the conquistadors make use of the excellent Incan road system to help them conquer Peru, and in WW2, some advancing Allied units used the existing telephone system in Germany to call in and convince mayors in some German towns to surrender early.

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** Taking a page from human history, it is typical for invaders to ride on local infrastructure whenever possible to reduce their own cost or effort. For example, the conquistadors make use of the excellent Incan road system to help them conquer Peru, and in WW2, [=WW2=], some advancing Allied units used the existing telephone system in Germany to call in and convince mayors in some German towns to surrender early.
14th Jul '17 10:37:33 PM AielareME
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** How do you know Alien Death lasers don't act that way? Have you ever built an Alien Death Laser?
5th Jul '17 10:53:03 PM Statzkeen
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[[folder: Who cares about the scientists?]]
* Dr. Okun is taken over by the alien and murdered. Reaction: oh well. President is taken over by the alien. Reaction: quick, let's kill it!

[[folder: Only two options. 1. Air-launched missiles. 2. Nuclear weapons?]]
* Ok, so they know they may only have a few minutes of time with the shields down. It's best to hit them with the most powerful stuff you've got (except for nukes). So they go with the same plan as before - a plan that was idiotic vs a 15-mile-wide ship in the first place: use sidewinders and similar types of missiles fired from fighter jets, meant for destroying other jets or possibly armored vehicles and small ground installations (the sidewinder is air-to-air, but they fire some other type of missile also). This would be like sending a bunch of guys with pistols and grenades to try and sink an aircraft carrier. Why not employ bunker-busters, cruise missiles, etc? Granted maybe they are unable to find many of those available by the time of the second attack. It still is odd that the USA doesn't go with these in the first attack - they wouldn't have worked anyway, but nobody knew that at the time. They just send out fighter jets and then jump straight to H-bombs.
5th Jul '17 10:38:57 PM Statzkeen
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** Crowning cliche of suck, more like. Oh look, who cares about the people, the dog always has to survive! And even for a really expensive C-movie, the flames not being able to move into the tiny nook is so ludicrous. And the CGI flames behind the dog haven't aged very well compared to most of the rest of the film's effects.


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*** Except the flames rushed past with the door wide open, right on screen.
5th Jul '17 7:02:00 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** They may not have realized it was possible. The rest of the missiles fired barely scratched their paint. The effect looks like the plane being in the targeting area when they fired caused their own gun to backfire.
26th Jun '17 2:43:08 PM LtFedora
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** [[SquareCubeLaw]] : Unless the city ships are full of air, their mass (and inertia) increase much faster than their surface area (and influence of wind). Inertia wins.

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** [[SquareCubeLaw]] : SquareCubeLaw: Unless the city ships are full of air, their mass (and inertia) increase much faster than their surface area (and influence of wind). Inertia wins.
19th Jun '17 12:22:08 PM DarkHunter
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** Most likely they either targetted the center of each city for the greatest amount of destruction, or a specific building for shock value to demoralize people (like the White House). It had been noted that they'd been studying humans for years, so they would likely know which buildings are culturally important.
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