History Headscratchers / IndependenceDay

22nd Apr '17 8:28:59 AM LtFedora
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** Addendum. OP here. If you look closely when David and Julius arrive at the White House, the helicopters are already there on the south lawn.
21st Apr '17 11:09:45 AM LtFedora
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** They suffered a computer failure, but possibly didn't realize the shields were down until the first missile hit. Opening the weapon was risky, but they were trying to wipe out a center of resistance. Their fighters had already strafed the base, however the base was deep underground. This necessitated the main weapon. Also, it can be inferred the other air forces concentrated their firepower on the weapon, blowing off the panels and triggering it that way.
10th Apr '17 10:43:54 AM delta1
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[[folder: Aliens are too dumb to live?]]

* The aliens must have realized during the final battle that their shields had suffered some sort of malfunction. They also must have known that having stuff explode in their energy cores is a very bad thing for them. So why did they open up their energy cores in the first place to so that those pesky humans could AttackItsWeakPoint? They may as well have hung out a sign saying "please kill us now". And apparently all the city-destroyers were taken down this way, so all the aliens were apparently just that dumb.
27th Mar '17 12:52:49 PM Antediluvial
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**The fighter's weapons were likely destroyed when it crash-landed in Roswell in 1947; its entire underside was damaged and its weapons are located in underside pods, so they would have been torn off or heavily damaged when it crashed.
26th Mar '17 12:06:36 PM LtFedora
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** Up until then, the aliens had shown no obvious sign of being hostile. Whitmore was staying of his own accord. They do stay alongside him for the rest of the film and help blast the Area 51 prisoner.
21st Mar '17 11:46:03 AM Antediluvial
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** Watching the movie again, especially the scene where President Whitmore lines up his shot at the destroyer's main cannon, you can see missiles launching vertically, likely from Area 51. So it's likely the base fired its missile defenses at the destroyer's underside but did no damage in the process.
15th Feb '17 5:43:26 PM ekedolphin
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[[folder: Where the hell's the Secret Service?]]

* The President shows a reckless disregard for his own safety throughout the movie. In real life, the Secret Service would've dragged him out of Washington ''long'' before the alien ship attacked that helicopter.
31st Jan '17 5:32:51 AM Adriantancy
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** Taking a page from human history, it is typical for invaders to ride on local infrastructure whenever possible to reduce their own cost or effort. For example, the conquistadors make use of the excellent Incan road system to help them conquer Peru, and in WW2, some advancing Allied units used the existing telephone system in Germany to call in and convince mayors in some German towns to surrender early.
23rd Jan '17 4:12:02 PM ScorpiusOB1
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** There's no way they could keep the Sun between the mothership and Earth, at least assuming they did come at sublight speeds and at large distances from the Sun -they'd have to move very fast- and as for the albedo thing, we've detected asteroids as dark as the mothership, if not more, and considerably smaller at several hundred million kilometers. While it can be handwaved with the aliens' approach vector having a high inclination respect to the ecliptic the thing would have been spotted sooner or later, first as an unexpected star, even by amateur astronomers (and, as per the Sun, the mothership would have to move quite fast in order to be always behind the Moon when approaching). Of course if they've FTL of any kind, especially one ''a la'' VideoGame/{{StarControl}} where you cannot jump hyperspace until you are far away enough of a planetary system, the latter is somewhat moot.

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** There's no way they could keep the Sun between the mothership and Earth, at least assuming they did come at sublight speeds and at large distances from the Sun -they'd have to move very fast- and as for the albedo thing, we've detected asteroids as dark as the mothership, if not more, and considerably smaller at several hundred million kilometers. While it can be handwaved with the aliens' approach vector having a high inclination respect to the ecliptic the thing would have been spotted sooner or later, first as an unexpected star, even by amateur astronomers (and, as per the Sun, the mothership would have to move quite fast in order to be always behind the Moon when approaching). Of course if they've FTL of any kind, especially one ''a la'' VideoGame/{{StarControl}} ''VideoGame/{{StarControl}}'' where you cannot jump hyperspace until you are far away enough of a planetary system, the latter is somewhat moot.


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** The movie's novel states that the mothership was much closer to the Moon than to the Earth. While it removes the above issues on our planet, now is poor Luna the one that will face them ''and'' to a much larger degree because of the considerably smaller difference of mass -not to mention the HUGE mess caused on it when the mothership blows up and its debris hits the Moon-
22nd Jan '17 3:57:54 PM ScorpiusOB1
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** There's no way they could keep the Sun between the mothership and Earth, at least assuming they did come at sublight speeds and at large distances from the Sun -they'd have to move very fast- and as for the albedo thing, we've detected asteroids as dark as the mothership, if not more, and considerably smaller at several hundred million kilometers. While it can be handwaved with the aliens' approach vector having a high inclination respect to the ecliptic the thing would have been spotted sooner or later, first as an unexpected star, even by amateur astronomers (and, as per the Sun, the mothership would have to move quite fast in order to be always behind the Moon.)

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** There's no way they could keep the Sun between the mothership and Earth, at least assuming they did come at sublight speeds and at large distances from the Sun -they'd have to move very fast- and as for the albedo thing, we've detected asteroids as dark as the mothership, if not more, and considerably smaller at several hundred million kilometers. While it can be handwaved with the aliens' approach vector having a high inclination respect to the ecliptic the thing would have been spotted sooner or later, first as an unexpected star, even by amateur astronomers (and, as per the Sun, the mothership would have to move quite fast in order to be always behind the Moon.)Moon when approaching). Of course if they've FTL of any kind, especially one ''a la'' VideoGame/{{StarControl}} where you cannot jump hyperspace until you are far away enough of a planetary system, the latter is somewhat moot.
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