History Headscratchers / IndependenceDay

1st Sep '16 6:22:54 PM CockroachCharlie
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** He is also seen with the president several times prior to the initial attack. At any of these points he could have brought up what is now extremely relevant information.
18th Aug '16 3:15:43 AM LtFedora
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** It may have something to do with the beam intensity and building materials. When they fire at Area 51, the base shakes and the lights flicker, indicating some sort of interference. However, what gets me is how long they keep firing the beam after the pulse. The LA ship keeps firing the beam until the blast wave has gone a few miles in all directions. However, the NYC and DC ships seem to cut out immediately after the pulse.
2nd Jul '16 3:52:08 PM beneficii
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2nd Jul '16 3:51:36 PM beneficii
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[[folder:The beam and the pulse]]

* There seems to be some inconsistency as to how the primary weapon of the aliens works. The basic manner seems to be that the ship creates a downward beam, and then sends a pulse down. 3 times out of 4, it's the pulse that causes the destruction, not the beam, as we don't see any destruction begin until the pulse appears and makes contact with something. However, in the White House destruction scene, the White House begins blowing up when the beam appears; the pulse is still shot down but the White House is already exploding. In the other 2 city scenes, the explosion doesn't begin until the pulse makes contact with the building. In the self-sacrifice scene toward the end, the guy pilots his jet right into the beam no problem, until he is near the tip of the weapon: When the pulse emerges, both plane and the alien cannon are destroyed. There seems to be inconsistency here.
1st Jul '16 2:49:39 PM LordInsane
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*** For what it is worth, ''Resurgence'' (along with jossing some other explanations thrown about on this page) indicates that the city destroyers ''do'' have troops on them. Presumably the mothership troops were intended to reinforce them (as ''Resurgence'' also indicates that their ground troops are ''not'' given shields, and consequently can be killed by humans).
19th Jun '16 12:11:20 PM Antediluvial
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[[folder:The targets the City Destroyers choose]]

* How do the city destroyers choose their obliteration targets? At first I thought it was generally the tallest and most central building in each city (the fact that U.S Bank Tower in LA and the ESB in New York are the targets there supports this somewhat) but then that theory is blown apart by the White House in D.C being the target there (it is not the tallest building in the city by a long shot, the Washington Monument is the tallest in the city proper, nor is it centrally located, the Capitol Building is considered most central). Other scenes in the movie, especially news broadcasts seem to also dispute this (in Paris, the target isn't known, but it isn't the Eiffel Tower, which is the tallest structure in Paris).
19th Jun '16 11:20:08 AM Antediluvial
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** What I don't get is, why those troops aren't on the city destroyers. It (at least from a human standpoint) makes little logistical sense to have said forces on the mothership which is farther away and traveling from it would take additional time, when they could deploy from the city destroyers (which are already above their targets and closer to the ground) especially after the destroyers have cleared the area of any resistance.
28th Apr '16 5:51:53 AM LtFedora
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** Exactly. Plus, they're not destroying cities for the fun of it. They want to move in, and the best way to move in is to kill the cockroaches first. I'm also guessing that a lot of those soldiers are sappers and logistics troops who are going to start building settlements for the alien civilian population and scout for resources they can exploit.
28th Apr '16 5:45:46 AM LtFedora
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*** Even if the target is straight down and a short distance away, it's still a good idea to have a targeting laser just to make sure you're completely accurate. Also, the beam itself seems to fuel part of the destruction. Remember that there's two parts to the firing sequence: the beam shoots down, then they fire the pulse that obliterates the target. We see the beam from the LA ship is still firing for a minute or two even as the blast wave has already consumed half the city. Plus, we see the White House starting to explode before the pulse, and Area 51 suffers a brief power failure as well. Why Russell's fighter seems unaffected is another matter, possibly from the beam being in low-power mode due to the virus.
25th Apr '16 2:45:42 PM MrDeath
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** Just bombing is not an invasion, it's a bombing. They took down what seemed to be the biggest population centers and military bases, and the infantry goes in to mop up and clear out whatever's left. And the fact that there was still armed human resistance means that the city destroyers obviously ''did not'' get the job done.
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