History Headscratchers / HowToTrainYourDragon

11th Nov '16 3:41:39 PM thekeyofe
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*** In Hiccup's OpeningNarration, he specifically says that vikings have "stubbornness issues." Tradition and blindness make the most sense in this case.
11th Nov '16 3:30:07 PM thekeyofe
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** The [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 sequel]] shows two Bewilderbeasts, which while being a different breed than the Green Death are of a similar size and capabilities. [[spoiler:Hiccup's mother]] explains that every dragon nest has a "queen" of this nature.

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** The [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 sequel]] shows two Bewilderbeasts, which while being a different breed than the Green Death are of a similar size and capabilities. [[spoiler:Hiccup's mother]] mother, Valka,]] explains that every dragon nest has a "queen" of this nature.




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** In the [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 sequel]], [[spoiler:Hiccup's mother, Valka,]] implies that Toothless might be the LastOfHisKind.
11th Nov '16 2:55:21 PM thekeyofe
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** The [[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 sequel]] shows two Bewilderbeasts, which while being a different breed than the Green Death are of a similar size and capabilities. [[spoiler:Hiccup's mother]] explains that every dragon nest has a "queen" of this nature.
2nd Aug '16 12:15:07 PM HiddenWindshield
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** Yes, he does bend his claws. It's during the scene where he's trying to climb out of the sinkhole to save Hiccup, there's a quick closeup of his paw, and his claws definitely bend to grip the rock. There's no explanation for it beyond {{rule of perception}}, the animators wanted to show how determined he was, so they basically gave him the claw equivalent of {{feather fingers}}.
3rd May '16 3:15:01 PM Julia1984
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* What positions/directions is Toothless actually in at that point in "Romantic Flight" when the background rotates 270 degrees?
It's the part when they're flying through bright, sunlit, purple clouds right before coming out into a starry sky looking at Berk in the distance. Toothless is positioned upright and flying straight ahead from our [=POV=], but he's clearly not actually flying straight ahead the entire time. The beautiful shot starts with a flat cloud right on top of them, then the screen rotates 270 degrees clockwise so that this same cloud is directly behind them when they burst through into the night sky. What position was Toothless actually in (flying straight ahead upright, straight ahead upside down, straight down, or straight up) and transitioning to throughout that rotation?

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* What positions/directions is Toothless actually in at that point in "Romantic Flight" when the background rotates 270 degrees?
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It's the part when they're flying through bright, sunlit, purple clouds right before coming out into a starry sky looking at Berk in the distance. Toothless is positioned upright and flying straight ahead from our [=POV=], but he's clearly not actually flying straight ahead the entire time. The beautiful shot starts with a flat cloud right on top of them, then the screen rotates 270 degrees clockwise so that this same cloud is directly behind them when they burst through into the night sky. What position was Toothless actually in (flying straight ahead upright, straight ahead upside down, straight down, or straight up) and transitioning to throughout that rotation?
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3rd May '16 3:14:36 PM Julia1984
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* What positions/directions is Toothless actually in at that point in "Romantic Flight" when the background rotates 270 degrees?
It's the part when they're flying through bright, sunlit, purple clouds right before coming out into a starry sky looking at Berk in the distance. Toothless is positioned upright and flying straight ahead from our [=POV=], but he's clearly not actually flying straight ahead the entire time. The beautiful shot starts with a flat cloud right on top of them, then the screen rotates 270 degrees clockwise so that this same cloud is directly behind them when they burst through into the night sky. What position was Toothless actually in (flying straight ahead upright, straight ahead upside down, straight down, or straight up) and transitioning to throughout that rotation?

Judging by the position of Astrid's ponytail, they're completely upside down when that flat cloud is directly "below" them (from our [=POV=]), meaning that cloud must be the "up" direction in-universe. So when the cloud completes its rotation and ends up "behind" them, and they're flying straight away from it, they would have to be going straight down... but the camera follows them out of the clouds into a clearer sky where we can now see what position they're in, and they're either flying straight ahead or angled up. If they were flying up, the flat cloud should have been "in front of" them from our [=POV=]; if they were flying straight ahead, it should have been "above" them from our [=POV=]. What are we really looking at here? Do we start with an upside down dragon who's rotating counter-clockwise until he's flying straight up? A dragon flying straight up or down who rotates until he's flying straight ahead? I've watched this scene a million times and just can't come up with a perspective that makes sense.
4th Mar '16 5:46:41 AM GothicProphet
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* Stoik gives Hiccup his helmet and tells him it came from his mother's breastplate. Yet in all the trailers for the second movie, [[spoiler: we see his mother and she's far too small and thin to have worn armor that large.]]

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* Stoik Stoick gives Hiccup his helmet and tells him it came from his mother's breastplate. Yet in all the trailers for the second movie, [[spoiler: we see his mother and she's far too small and thin to have worn armor that large.]]



** I imagine that there was a hillarious mix-up when they first made her breastplate, so it was made ''way'' too big. She never wore it, but it was still "hers".
*** I can just see it now, the smith talking to a besoted and starry eyed Stoic who, in a fit of distraction, accidently gives his measurments rather than his wife's.

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** I imagine that there was a hillarious hilarious mix-up when they first made her breastplate, so it was made ''way'' too big. She never wore it, but it was still "hers".
*** I can just see it now, the smith talking to a besoted besotted and starry eyed starry-eyed Stoic who, in a fit of distraction, accidently accidentally gives his measurments measurements rather than his wife's.


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** Hiccup wasn't showing Toothless it was safe; Toothless had already eaten it then apparently decided to share (maybe he thought Hiccup was starving because he's so much thinner than the other Vikings?). Hiccup probably didn't object to the fact the fish hadn't been cooked as much as to the fact that ''Toothless had [[{{Squick}} eaten it and then spat it out]]''. I don't think even real Vikings would be too keen on [[NauseaFuel eating anything that had been in someone's mouth]].
4th Mar '16 5:41:43 AM GothicProphet
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FridgeLogic from "WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon":

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8th Nov '15 5:21:59 PM Tuckerscreator
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** Given that the characters wear horned helmets and don't call their Christmas "Yule", this is but one of their [[TheThemeParkVersion Theme Park Viking]] qualities.
8th Nov '15 3:50:25 PM Sharlee
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** It's pretty clear in retrospect that Toothless ''could'' have killed dozens of Vikings during that raid if he'd aimed differently, so possibly Night Furys are naturally disinclined to kill people unless they're defending themselves. It could be that a Night Fury once hit a settlement six times, then flew over a seventh but aborted its attack when it saw that another strike would've killed its targets. The Vikings just drew the wrong conclusion about why it didn't blast them again.
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