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* If Peter first arrived in Neverland as a baby (at least that's what the flashback indicates) shouldn't he have ''stayed'' a baby? Unless at some point he left Neverland long enough to age into a preteen and then returned.
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* If Peter first arrived in Neverland as a baby (at least that's what the flashback indicates) shouldn't he have ''stayed'' a baby? Unless at some point he left Neverland long enough to age into a preteen and then returned.
** Neverland doesn't keep children from growing older, it just keeps them from growing ''up'', as in becoming adults. Peter did grow older, but all in all he remained a child throughout. I reckon that the way Neverland works is that, as long as you think "I never want to grow up", you will remain at a certain age. I think there's a possibility some of the pirates were once Lost Boys who either lost faith in Peter Pan or lost that childlike sense of innocence and wonder. It might also explain why Rufio looked so much older than the rest of the Lost Boys.
** Neverland doesn't keep children from growing older, it just keeps them from growing ''up'', as in becoming adults. Peter did grow older, but all in all he remained a child throughout. I reckon that the way Neverland works is that, as long as you think "I never want to grow up", you will remain at a certain age. I think there's a possibility some of the pirates were once Lost Boys who either lost faith in Peter Pan or lost that childlike sense of innocence and wonder. It might also explain why Rufio looked so much older than the rest of the Lost Boys.
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* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland? We're shown he trashed the house, so he must have had some physical presence, but when the blankets are thrown off there's no human in sight. Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives?
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* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland? We're shown he trashed the house, so he must have had some physical presence, but when the blankets are thrown off there's no human in sight. Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives?gives?
* If Peter first arrived in Neverland as a baby (at least that's what the flashback indicates) shouldn't he have ''stayed'' a baby? Unless at some point he left Neverland long enough to age into a preteen and then returned.
* If Peter first arrived in Neverland as a baby (at least that's what the flashback indicates) shouldn't he have ''stayed'' a baby? Unless at some point he left Neverland long enough to age into a preteen and then returned.
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** The pirate was shot at a greater distance from Jack in a manner where Jack might be able to tell himself the man was just stunned and/or it was only a game, but Rufio was very clearly fatally wounded right in front of him.
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* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene ? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland ? We're shown he thrashed the house, so he must have had some physical presence, but when the blankets are thrown off there's no human in sight. Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives ?
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** Hook had just been surrounded by clocks and then witnessed his greatest fear seemingly come back to life; it's safe to say he wasn't thinking rationally
* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abductionscene ? scene? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland ? Neverland? We're shown he thrashed trashed the house, so he must have had some physical presence, but when the blankets are thrown off there's no human in sight. Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives ?gives?
* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction
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* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene ? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland ? We're shown he thrashed the house, so he must have had some physical presence, but when the blankets are thrown off there's no human in sight. Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives ?
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* Understandably, when Tinker Bell somehow manages to bring the crocodile back to life (according to FridgeBrilliance), Hook gets scared and the crocodile ends up falling over him, devouring him in the process. However, if Hook was so scared of the crocodile, then why doesn't he just instinctively run away as far as he could so the crocodile would have just fallen to the ground and stayed there? He had plenty of time to do that, but instead he stayed where he was and started to get up as the crocodile fell on him.
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* Understandably, when Tinker Bell somehow manages to bring the crocodile back to life (according to FridgeBrilliance), Hook gets scared and the crocodile ends up falling over him, devouring him in the process. However, if Hook was so scared of the crocodile, then why doesn't he just instinctively run away as far as he could so the crocodile would have just fallen to the ground and stayed there? He had plenty of time to do that, but instead he stayed where he was and started to get up as the crocodile fell on him.him.
* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene ? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland ? Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives ?
* Why does Hook appear as a green mist during the abduction scene ? Is he incapable of taking physical form outside of Neverland ? Similarly he's seemingly capable of generating strong gusts of wind (which he does when he interrupts the ceremony with Wendy) but that ability never comes up again once the movie moves on to Neverland, what gives ?
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** It's rather clear that Wendy was the only one who really knew. Wendy tells Maggie that she and her brothers "made up bedtime stories" about Neverland, and this is obviously the explanation everyone else has heard and accepted. In that sense, yes – Moira knew that her grandmother is *the* Wendy Moira Angela Darling in that they knew her to be the basis for Barrie's character. Her link to the Great Ormond Street Hospital (which in real life as well as in the film received the copyright for ''Peter Pan'' from Barrie as a donation) is explicit.
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** It's rather clear that Wendy was the only one who really knew. Wendy tells Maggie that she and her brothers "made up bedtime stories" about Neverland, and this is obviously the explanation everyone else has heard and accepted. In that sense, yes – Moira knew that her grandmother is *the* Wendy Moira Angela Darling in that they knew her to be the basis for Barrie's character. Her link to the Great Ormond Street Hospital (which in real life as well as in the film received the copyright for ''Peter Pan'' from Barrie as a donation) is explicit.explicit.
* During the baseball game organized by Captain Hook so he can sway Jack to his side, one pirate shoots another for stealing second, leading Hook to scold him because they are playing the game with the rules Jack knows. Why doesn't Jack get scared by the fact that a man is killed in front of him as if it were a normal thing that happens in a baseball game? Moreover, he later desists from joining Hook when he kills Rufio, but why didn't he desist when one pirate killed another in front of his eyes?
* Understandably, when Tinker Bell somehow manages to bring the crocodile back to life (according to FridgeBrilliance), Hook gets scared and the crocodile ends up falling over him, devouring him in the process. However, if Hook was so scared of the crocodile, then why doesn't he just instinctively run away as far as he could so the crocodile would have just fallen to the ground and stayed there? He had plenty of time to do that, but instead he stayed where he was and started to get up as the crocodile fell on him.
* During the baseball game organized by Captain Hook so he can sway Jack to his side, one pirate shoots another for stealing second, leading Hook to scold him because they are playing the game with the rules Jack knows. Why doesn't Jack get scared by the fact that a man is killed in front of him as if it were a normal thing that happens in a baseball game? Moreover, he later desists from joining Hook when he kills Rufio, but why didn't he desist when one pirate killed another in front of his eyes?
* Understandably, when Tinker Bell somehow manages to bring the crocodile back to life (according to FridgeBrilliance), Hook gets scared and the crocodile ends up falling over him, devouring him in the process. However, if Hook was so scared of the crocodile, then why doesn't he just instinctively run away as far as he could so the crocodile would have just fallen to the ground and stayed there? He had plenty of time to do that, but instead he stayed where he was and started to get up as the crocodile fell on him.
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**** And even in that movie, we just see Tiger Lily and an older woman, with everyone else being in the background. In the early 90s they found it easier to simply cut them and avoid the backlash rather than include them and portray them differently.
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** Maybe there's also the fact that Wendy knows enough about how Neverland works and if she leaves, she might forget home and return too late, leaving her children and grandchildren alone. And there's probably a lot of sadness that she's now an older woman, and the man she loves is still a child. So maybe she did hold out hope for a while that Peter might reconsider and settle down with her while there was still a reasonable age difference between them. But that hope is officially gone and while she loves him, she knows she can't be with him and even if she did go with him, it would never be like it was.
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*** Although, the Indians ''have'' appeared in the [[Film/PeterPan 2003 movie]], and were portrayed more realistically.
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* Who knows about Peter's past? Did Wendy tell Peter's adopted parents? Did Wendy tell her daughter? Does Moira know that her grandmother is ''the'' Wendy Moira Angela Darling?
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* Who knows about Peter's past? Did Wendy tell Peter's adopted parents? Did Wendy tell her daughter? Does Moira know that her grandmother is ''the'' Wendy Moira Angela Darling?Darling?
** It's rather clear that Wendy was the only one who really knew. Wendy tells Maggie that she and her brothers "made up bedtime stories" about Neverland, and this is obviously the explanation everyone else has heard and accepted. In that sense, yes – Moira knew that her grandmother is *the* Wendy Moira Angela Darling in that they knew her to be the basis for Barrie's character. Her link to the Great Ormond Street Hospital (which in real life as well as in the film received the copyright for ''Peter Pan'' from Barrie as a donation) is explicit.
** It's rather clear that Wendy was the only one who really knew. Wendy tells Maggie that she and her brothers "made up bedtime stories" about Neverland, and this is obviously the explanation everyone else has heard and accepted. In that sense, yes – Moira knew that her grandmother is *the* Wendy Moira Angela Darling in that they knew her to be the basis for Barrie's character. Her link to the Great Ormond Street Hospital (which in real life as well as in the film received the copyright for ''Peter Pan'' from Barrie as a donation) is explicit.
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* Who knows about Peter's past? Did Wendy tell Peter's adopted parents? Did Wendy tell her daughter? Does Moira know that her grandmother is ''the'' Wendy Moira Angela Darling?
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*** But if they do that, shouldn't there be a large non-pirate population of normal humans, which would sort of defeat the purpose of Neverland? For that matter, who do the pirates actually pirate from - is there actually any maritime shipping in Neverland?
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*** There must have been some left, as Smee offers to go with Hook and hunt some of them.
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** From a technical standpoint, they were probably scrubbed out to avoid lawsuits from Real Native Americans. Indigenous people have been getting more and more vocal over the years about their culture being portrayed as stock fantasy characters. To put it very lightly, they're offended at being portrayed as NobleSavages and won't tolerate it anymore. Google Idle No More for an example.
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** From a technical standpoint, they were probably scrubbed out to avoid lawsuits from Real Native Americans. Indigenous people have been getting more and more vocal over the years about their culture being portrayed as stock fantasy characters. To put it very lightly, they're offended at being portrayed as NobleSavages {{Noble Savage}}s and won't tolerate it anymore. Google Idle No More for an example.
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** There is at least one, be it official or not, story somewhat unrelated to the movie Hook but telling of the original's past. It's the 'evil Peter Pan' story, where Peter would take children from their homes to play with them and then cast them away when they grew up. Or something to that nature, maybe it was that the children- Lost Boys- would run from Peter and grow up to be the pirates that hunt him for revenge. The most famous of which would be Hook. In that story Peter may have been the one who took his hand, but this troper can't recall.
