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11th Nov '17 6:05:19 PM cillianflood
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*People do not get reincarnated in this universe. Before they were confined in a big empty wasteland (for some reason? How was that benefiting the authority in any way?) and now they get to return to the universe and become one with it. It's more pantheist than anything else. And why should evil people be denied that natural state of the soul? Why should the bad be condemned to punishment? The message is about rejecting the idea of heaven being used as a reward and hell being used as a punishment. It doesn't mean being selfish and tyrannical is permissible, but deal with them and judge them in life. Don't put all your faith into divine intervention. Einstein probably summed it up best with his quote "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." As for the harpies, yes the moral message is to live life to the fullest, but the actual reality of things in the work seems to set the bar very low for the stories the harpies want. They weren't depicted as snobby movie critics, telling them anything about your life is enough to get through.



So, do daemons ever settle on a form that's too big to follow their human indoors? Are there people with giraffe or elephant (or even dinosaur) daemons? They might be able to get by in a rural setting, but a city-dweller would be screwed (which might be why we never see such people in canon - anyone with such a huge daemon has no choice but to leave Oxford).

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So, do daemons ever settle on a form that's too big to follow their human indoors? Are there people with giraffe or elephant (or even dinosaur) daemons? They might be able to get by in a rural setting, but a city-dweller would be screwed (which might be why we never see such people in canon - anyone with such a huge daemon has no choice but to leave Oxford).Oxford).
*In the prequel Pan is said to turn into a "miniature" tiger cub. That seems to the assumption this troper always had that there is a size limit on a demon. That is to say if your personality is elephant you get an elephant Daemon but at best it would only be the size of a Labrador.
11th Nov '17 5:41:48 PM cillianflood
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** But what exactly are the parameters of being born with one? If a woman nine months pregnant gives birth in Lyra's world will the child have a daemon? If two parents from Lyra's world conceive a child in Will's World will it be born with a daemon? What about inter reality coupling? Which world would they be native too? What about conceiving/birthing while lying in the middle of a portal? Some answers we'll probably just never know.
16th May '17 10:15:25 AM nombretomado
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** Does that make the knife a handheld version of [[{{Tsukihime}} the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception]]?

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** Does that make the knife a handheld version of [[{{Tsukihime}} [[VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}} the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception]]?
15th Feb '17 5:48:17 PM WretchedElaphine
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*** Pullman said: "My attitude to religion is that religion is a most interesting and extraordinary human phenomenon. I'm fascinated by it, interested in it, and at some points critical of it. And the points when I become critical are the points when politics come into it, and religion acquires political power — political with a small 'p,' for example, within the confines of a single family, or Political with a large 'P,' on a national or international scale. When religion gets the power to tell people how to dress, who to fall in love with, how to behave, what they must not read, what they must not wear, all those things, then religion goes bad." The series is not a specific criticism of Christianity— it is about religious authoritarianism. The Magisterium represents the large-P political power of religion, whereas Mrs. Coulter represents the small-p politics.
9th Feb '17 3:34:17 PM cassie5squared
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*It's mentioned somewhere in the Amber Spyglass that Asriel is somehow able to play with time in the name of leading his war against the Authority, and that's how he's managed to amass the resources and people he has.
15th Aug '16 6:43:26 PM twingle93
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** The Authority is actually closer to the Demiurge of Gnosticism - a deluded, powerful but not omnipotent being who created evil but is not actually Satan.
15th Aug '16 6:37:55 PM twingle93
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** I figured that with the Authority being God the Father, Jesus would be one of the guises of Metatron. Makes sense as Jesus is often described as ruling in Heaven at God's right hand. Metatron was once human after all, and could have easily used his powers to appear human as well in order to form a religion that worshiped the Authority.
23rd Jul '16 1:17:19 PM LadyStormcrow
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Allowing the souls a method to move on was great, but doesn't leaving the harpies to judge who goes through sour it quite a bit? The only conditions are don't lie and and tell an interesting story. By that criteria any of the Gobblers would get through because they lived interesting lives in spite of harming children, while any number of good people that didn't do much would be denied reincarnation. I understand it was part of the message to go out and live life to the fullest. But looking back it seems more like 'You can be as good or as evil as you like, but you must never be seen as boring by self important Eldritch Abominations. Otherwise you'll be condemned to limbo for eternity.'. I was amazed that in the end the characters decided to encourage people to live this way to satisfy the harpies, rather than get the angels to renegotiate or outright remove them. Pullman really forced in his philosophy in an awkward manner. I was under the impression the core message was not accepting authority that judges people for irrelevant things and forces them to conform to their own values.

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Allowing the souls a method to move on was great, but doesn't leaving the harpies to judge who goes through sour it quite a bit? The only conditions are don't lie and and tell an interesting story. By that criteria any of the Gobblers would get through because they lived interesting lives in spite of harming children, while any number of good people that didn't do much would be denied reincarnation. I understand it was part of the message to go out and live life to the fullest. But looking back it seems more like 'You can be as good or as evil as you like, but you must never be seen as boring by self important Eldritch Abominations. Otherwise you'll be condemned to limbo for eternity.'. I was amazed that in the end the characters decided to encourage people to live this way to satisfy the harpies, rather than get the angels to renegotiate or outright remove them. Pullman really forced in his philosophy in an awkward manner. I was under the impression the core message was not accepting authority that judges people for irrelevant things and forces them to conform to their own values.values.

[[WMG: Possible Daemon Species]]
As far as we know, there's no strict rule for what types of animals a daemon can take the shape of. Pan even turns into a small dragon at one point (though that might just mean dragons are a real species in Lyra's world). But all the daemons that we see in canon have one thing in common: they're a manageable ''size'' for following their humans around in day-to-day life. The biggest daemon we see is Stelmaria, and you could fit a snow leopard anywhere you could fit a large dog. However, we also know that daemons don't always settle on a form that's convenient for their human, as in the case of the sailor whose dolphin daemon kept him trapped close to the water at all times.

So, do daemons ever settle on a form that's too big to follow their human indoors? Are there people with giraffe or elephant (or even dinosaur) daemons? They might be able to get by in a rural setting, but a city-dweller would be screwed (which might be why we never see such people in canon - anyone with such a huge daemon has no choice but to leave Oxford).
10th May '16 6:22:24 PM dsollen
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**** Actually, Genetics do work that way. If the genes for eye color were simple domonent/recessive genes they way school teaches us it would be impossible, but the truth is school lied to us all, eye color is controlled by many different genes in conjunction which have interactions that are more complex then basic pundent squares can handle. While the "brown dominant, blue recessive" rule of thumb is accurate usually it is entirely possible for a brown eye child to be born: http://genetics.thetech.org/how-blue-eyed-parents-can-have-brown-eyed-children
1st May '16 8:02:59 AM thespecialneedsgroup
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*** To stretch the metaphor a little, though, you don't always suffer every possible symptom of a disease. Even if an aromantic or asexual person never falls in love, they still go through puberty.
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