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25th Jan '16 3:48:22 PM Tuckerscreator
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** There were other markers like "being born to a family who has eluded him three times", so he must've checked which Auror families escaped him thrice, narrowed down the candidates, then checked births in late July via the papers to see if they had any kids then.
25th Jan '16 2:11:41 PM Matchieu
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** The solution didn't suggest expulsion, it suggested suspension. I seriously doubt the Ministry would break or even confiscate Harry's wand for suspension. Although, your other points are quite valid.
11th Jan '16 1:58:59 AM whisperstar13
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** It depends, I guess. How did Voldemort find out who the child who was "born as the seventh month dies" was, anyway?
5th Jan '16 11:35:47 PM Tuckerscreator
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Cutting ranting.
** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood." Besides, how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him. Nice Job Breaking it, Logic!
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** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood." Besides, how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him. Nice Job Breaking it, Logic!
5th Jan '16 9:48:52 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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I doubt it.
** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood. Besides, can YOU cry on cue? Fawkes was really messed up when Harry was injured - "OMIGOD VOLDEMORT'S COMING BACK MY ONLY HOPE IS HARRY AND A MOTHERLOVING BASILISK IS TRYING TO EAT ME!!!" But this time it's just, "Ouch, that's gotta hurt." Besides, how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him. Nice Job Breaking it, Logic!
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** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood. Besides, can YOU cry on cue? Fawkes was really messed up when Harry was injured - "OMIGOD VOLDEMORT'S COMING BACK MY ONLY HOPE IS HARRY AND A MOTHERLOVING BASILISK IS TRYING TO EAT ME!!!" But this time it's just, "Ouch, that's gotta hurt." Besides, how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him. Nice Job Breaking it, Logic!
3rd Jan '16 9:58:11 AM Gess
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** What does his status as a keeper of a long-expired secret matters or a godfather matters? V didn't even need him in the flesh to use him as a bait. On the other hand Sirius was a reckless idiot, whom noone in their right mind (or even DD) would entrust any important task. So he was tucked safely where he would do no damage.
3rd Jan '16 9:52:10 AM Gess
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** Except Dumbledore is worried not such much about the information leak as about the damage Harry would sustain if Voldemort tried to use him to spy/attack. Before Voldemort even found out Harry wasn't being told anything, he would have spent more time in Harry's mind than either Harry or Dumbledore would like. Just think about Harry's reaction to the Headmaster after the attack on Mr. Weasley; that was what Dumbledore was trying to avoid.
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** Except Dumbledore is worried not such so much about the information leak as about the damage Harry would sustain if Voldemort tried to use him to spy/attack. Before Voldemort even found out Harry wasn't being told anything, he would have spent more time in Harry's mind than either Harry or Dumbledore would like. Just think about Harry's reaction to the Headmaster after the attack on Mr. Weasley; that was what Dumbledore was trying to avoid.avoid. ** First, DD never gave this reason. Next, If it was only about mental damage, then it makes absolutely no difference if DD is talking to him or not - V's gonna do it anyway, and the best they could do was help the kid master Occlumency ASAP. Finally, there was no damage. Yes Harry had a fit of rage, what else is new? If DD deined to explain to him what was happening, it would've only served as a much needed stimula to learn the craft. Hell, I think V would've actually restrained from abusing the link too much so as not to encourage Harry to learn.
2nd Jan '16 1:51:31 PM mirlene
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** Except Dumbledore is worried not such much about the information leak as about the damage Harry would sustain if Voldemort tried to use him to spy/attack. Before Voldemort even found out Harry wasn't being told anything, he would have spent more time in Harry's mind than either Harry or Dumbledore would like. Just think about Harry's reaction to the Headmaster after the attack on Mr. Weasley; that was what Dumbledore was trying to avoid.
1st Jan '16 12:11:04 PM Tuckerscreator
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** The previous year he was in hiding, Voldemort wasn't back and rallying his forces again. Dumbledore wants to keep him safe not just from the Ministry, but from the Death Eaters, especially since some like Lucius can use the resources of the Ministry to target him. As an almost-Secret Keeper and godfather of the Potters, Sirius is a prime target for Voldemort's followers to capture.
1st Jan '16 1:48:18 AM whisperstar13
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* I don't understand why there was so much emphasis being put on Sirius being stuck inside Grimmauld Place. He spent the entirety of the last book in hiding - if he wants to get out of his old family's home and doesn't contribute anything by being there, why doesn't he just do that again? The other members of the Order could keep in touch with him through their Patronuses, and Apparation is always an option if he needs to get back to Britain in a pinch.
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* I don't understand why there was so much emphasis being put on Sirius being stuck inside Grimmauld Place. He spent the entirety of the last book in hiding - if he wants to get out of his old family's home and doesn't contribute anything by being there, why doesn't he just do that again? The other members of the Order could keep in touch with him through their Patronuses, Patronuses (or any other form of communication, really), and Apparation is always an option if he needs to get back to Britain in a pinch.
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