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11th Jun '16 8:08:31 AM Gess
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** He wouldn't need to hunt them down - he could've just asked DD to send his Patronus after them. However, you have to remember that Snape is a double agent. He receives orders from both DD and V and, from V's point of view, has to keep an appearance of being DD's man. Obviously that night he was odered to ensure Harry's safe departure (this would explain Graup's "accidental" arrival to their rescue - he was ''led'' there), and to delay the Order's response as much as he could without it looking suspicious.


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** What's the point in expelling him? All it will do is provide him with ample free time to undermine the Minisery (they don't control the entire media
11th Jun '16 7:41:38 AM Gess
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** The curse was that noone would be able to ''hold'' the position for more than a year. It wouldn't have prevented Moody from taking it, but by the end of the year something would've happened to him that would've forced him to leave, and there was no way to tell what or how harmful it would've been. Of course, there's no guarantee that it would've made any difference, if Fudge had simply changed the rules and declared that the Ministery gets a definitive say in school staff appointment.
10th Jun '16 4:59:34 PM faiteslebruit
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[[folder: The Real One This Time]]
* Would Dumbledore and co. have been able to take advantage of LoopholeAbuse for the curse on the DADA position by having Moody, the real one this time, come and teach? He technically never taught the position himself, and he was not the one to suffer from the effects of the curse (being locked in a trunk the whole year notwithstanding). Yes, Moody had responsibilities to the Order, but if it meant preventing the Ministry from exerting its power over Hogwarts, you'd think that would take precedence.
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25th May '16 11:00:16 AM Miumia
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** Maybe at some point, such as during the time period in which the prophecy was made and Voldemort tried to kill the Potters, Neville could've gotten it with no problem. After Voldie chose/tried to kill Harry, however, it was obvious who the prophecy spoke of, so I don't think Neville could have done it during the events of this book. The question mark is still there possibly for a technicality, since even at OotP in-universe there's still a chance it might not be Harry (of course, we as readers we know Harry is the one destined to kill Voldie. And Dumbledore too, having listened to the whole prophecy).
25th May '16 9:23:11 AM Miumia
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** I don't think Luna is being a hypocrite at all. She doesn't think Hagrid (who by the way is probably the only Care of Magical Creatures she ever had, along with Grubbly-Plank, so she only has the latter to compare him with) is a bad teacher because of his eccentricity, but because he's shown to be reckless in order to make his classes interesting. The hippogriff class was good in practice (until Malfoy screwed it up), but judging by how the kids' research on how many documented cases of hippogriff attacks exist (and they are obviously temperamental creatures), Hagrid was ''definitely'' being bold to the point of rupture when introducing them to thirteen year olds in ''their first'' Magical Creatures class, and in ''his'' first class as a teacher. I'm not even getting to the worms and the Blast-Ended Skrewts, the latter which aren't even asked about in the O.W.Ls and yet the kids spend months on. By that time, it also shows that the students aside from Harry and his gang, who are personal friends of Hagrid, don't really trust their safety to him, which should be a given in this subject. Hagrid is a great person and knows a great deal about magical creatures but he's still got a long way to go as a teacher.

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** I don't think Luna is being a hypocrite at all. She doesn't think Hagrid (who by the way is probably the only Care of Magical Creatures teacher she ever had, along with Grubbly-Plank, so she only has the latter to compare him with) is a bad teacher because of his eccentricity, but because he's shown to be reckless in order to make his classes interesting. The hippogriff class was good in practice (until Malfoy screwed it up), but judging by how the kids' research on how many documented cases of hippogriff attacks exist (and they are obviously temperamental creatures), Hagrid was ''definitely'' being bold to the point of rupture when introducing them to thirteen year olds in ''their first'' Magical Creatures class, and in ''his'' first class as a teacher. I'm not even getting to the worms and the Blast-Ended Skrewts, the latter which aren't even asked about in the O.W.Ls and yet the kids spend months on.on them. By that time, it also shows that the students aside from Harry and his gang, who are personal friends of Hagrid, don't really trust their safety to him, which should be a given in this subject. Hagrid is a great person and knows a great deal about magical creatures but he's still got a long way to go as a teacher.
24th May '16 10:30:39 PM Miumia
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** I don't think Luna is being a hypocrite at all. She doesn't think Hagrid (who by the way is probably the only Care of Magical Creatures she ever had, along with Grubbly-Plank, so she only has the latter to compare him with) is a bad teacher because of his eccentricity, but because he's shown to be reckless in order to make his classes interesting. The hippogriff class was good in practice (until Malfoy screwed it up), but judging by how the kids' research on how many documented cases of hippogriff attacks exist (and they are obviously temperamental creatures), Hagrid was ''definitely'' being bold to the point of rupture when introducing them to thirteen year olds in ''their first'' Magical Creatures class, and in ''his'' first class as a teacher. I'm not even getting to the worms and the Blast-Ended Skrewts, the latter which aren't even asked about in the O.W.Ls and yet the kids spend months on. By that time, it also shows that the students aside from Harry and his gang, who are personal friends of Hagrid, don't really trust their safety to him, which should be a given in this subject. Hagrid is a great person and knows a great deal about magical creatures but he's still got a long way to go as a teacher.


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** Perhaps the book is outdated Hermione herself mentions it says nothing of the elves working in the kitchens, which one would expect to find in a detailed book. It actually gives me the feel that ''Hogwarts, A History'' is a rather biased source, since it bothers to mention the spell of the ceiling, but not the employees who do most of the heavy work. Thestrals are (or were, according to Hagrid) considered symbol of bad luck, so it wouldn't surprise me if ''A History'' abstained from mentioning them at all so that readers don't get weirded out.
10th May '16 9:18:16 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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[[folder: Hermione and the Thestrals]]
* Why wouldn't Hermione know anything about the Thestrals? She spent the first half of the first book and even parts of the second one talking about and reciting things she'd already read about in ''Hogwarts, A History''. If the book is even half as detailed as she implies, shouldn't it have at least a footnote pertaining to the necromantic, skeletal, horse-like creatures that pull the Hogwarts carriages?
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10th May '16 10:56:55 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Come to think of it, though, why did ''anyone'' have to be there as much as they were? I know it was being used as HQ for the Order, but why? Why not just use somewhere like the Burrow or something? And why did Harry and his friends have to be there, too, especially if no one wanted him involved? He's there during Christmas, it's where he's brought to from the Dursleys...It all seems kinda pointless to me.
9th May '16 5:45:09 PM OffTheDeepEnd
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[[folder:At this rate, they might as well just start using "Flipendo"!]]

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[[folder:At this rate, they might as well just start using "Flipendo"!]]"Flipendo" (which is used in the video games)!]]



** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood." Besides, how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him.

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** No amount of Phoenix tears will replenish that amount of blood." Besides, But how do you explain a guy just screaming blue murder suddenly apparently unharmed but chalk-white and unconscious from blood loss? Plus, Fawkes is one of only two tame Phoenixes ever (the other, Sparky, is a Quidditch team mascot, and how likely is it that a Quidditch team sends their Phoenix round to heal injured Order members?) so the Ministry would put two and two together, assume DD has spies at the Ministry and arrest him.



** Phoenix's tears are very powerful healing items that's all. They are not a miracle thing that can cure everything. Obviously, there HAS to be some curses, venoms or magic wounds that it cannot cures. Nagini was the closest being to voldemort, and it makes a lot of sense that he managed to create a venom that cannot be destroyed that easily by a simple remede which voldemort knows firsthand that Dumbledore have in his possession.THAT would be very inconsistent with voldemort's characterisation.

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** Phoenix's tears are very powerful healing items that's all. They are not a miracle thing that can cure everything. Obviously, there HAS to be some curses, venoms or magic wounds that it cannot cures. items, however, Nagini was the closest being to voldemort, and it makes a lot of sense that he managed to create a venom that cannot be destroyed that easily by a simple remede which voldemort knows firsthand that Dumbledore have in his possession.THAT would be very inconsistent with voldemort's characterisation.
7th May '16 3:44:28 PM Aruu
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** I always saw the House Elves as being insulted that someone was deliberately leaving clothes around with the intention of freeing them, not that they would be freed if they picked up said clothes. They probably realised what Hermione was doing the moment that the common room was littered with hats and gloves, and while they were in no danger of being freed it they picked said items up, they were horrified that someone was trying to 'free' them, which is a big insult to House Elves.
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