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** I assumed that Flitwick did off-screen.

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** Lucius strategically relies spreading hate and fear among pureblood families and against Muggleborn and half-blood families as the ideology that allows him to hold on to power, and like most people who spread evil, he's convinced himself it's true. If he admits that all Muggleborn wizards are biologically exactly like pureblood wizards, he's betraying all of his friends by doing so.


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*** [[spoiler: The actual explanation is that Dumbledore gave him the potion as part of his prophecy gambit; he needed Harry to have a time-turner, so he secretly administered the potion to him so McGonnagal would give him one. He similarly killed Harry's pet rock to traumatize him so he'd become overwhelmingly attached to Hermione and so would decide to take any risk to bring her back, causing Quirrelmort to administer the oath to Harry that compels him to prioritize saving the world over all else, because otherwise wizardry will destroy the world.]]
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** Keep in mind that in the MoRverse magic usually works the way you intuitively think it should work, rather than how it should work according to our understanding of physics (for example, Alohomora not only preventing the door from being opened but also protecting it from harm so it can't be "opened" in a destructive fashion). When you think of someone being restored to their youth most likely your first thought wouldn't be that all their biological functions are frozen and they stop ageing entirely. Also, in Hermione's case it's safe to assume that [[spoiler:trolls are born and mature the same way everyone else does, so their self-Transfiguration wouldn't prevent growth.]]
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** He doesn't seem to reference ''Franchise/StarTrek'' either, even though 1991 is at the height of height of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''[='s=] popularity (not to mention ''Film/{{Star Trek VI|The Undiscovered Country}}'' was in theaters). Maybe Harry just doesn't like mainstream science fiction. (But then again, he references ''StarWars''... )
** StarWars is special, [[NoTrueScotsman obviously.]]

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** He doesn't seem to reference ''Franchise/StarTrek'' either, even though 1991 is at the height of height of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''[='s=] popularity (not to mention ''Film/{{Star Trek VI|The Undiscovered Country}}'' was in theaters). Maybe Harry just doesn't like mainstream science fiction. (But then again, he references ''StarWars''...''Franchise/StarWars''... )
** StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' is special, [[NoTrueScotsman obviously.]]
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*** Presumably, he only had one last name when his parents were killed, so when he survived the Killing Curse and became famous in the wizarding world he was just “Harry Potter”.
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** As we can clearly see now that the book is out in full, Quirrell's term as the Defense professor in Hogwarts did indeed end along with Year 1, and so did the story. Whether he managed to avoid his own curse or not is largely irrelevant, since the universe in which he avoided the curse but still "lost the job" by coincidence and the universe in which he got struck by his own curse would look the same to an outside observer, though the irony of the latter is appreciable (and if you believe it makes Quirrell look too arrogant and stupid, think again: the man seriously tried to [[spoiler: prevent a prophecy from happening and was 100% sure he would win since he'd "thought of everything"]]).
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** When Dumbledore told Harry of that device, he also mentioned that the "Muggle side of Grindenwald's war" (aka the Nazis) used rituals with mass human sacrifices to fuel that device. Harry is against creating a Horcrux because it requires one human death, so he will surely be against a device which requires a constant supply of human sacrifices as fuel.

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*** Specifically, Hermione's unique strength as a general is that she puts a lot more weight on the advice of others than Harry or Draco, and so Quirrel helped her develop that when he assigned her the perfect advisors. Zabini in particular is probably the one who came up with the plan, but it's a credit to Hermione that she said "yeah, great idea." Draco at that point in the plot wasn't ready to listen to underlings, and Harry was still busy teaching that kind of lateral thinking to his (who were not carefully selected by Quirrel for already having the talent).
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** This seems like a problem, but trying to take his wand (which he needed to hold for the Vow) wouldn't have changed anything. Voldemort couldn't take it by magic due to resonance, so he would have to order one of the DE to take it, giving Harry an instant enough to skip straight to the antimatter threat, which could have been obvious enough to think up in a second. From there the story proceeds in a standoff as before.
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* When Dumbledore told Harry of the device Grindelwald held that made him invincible to all attacks, why didn't Harry stop to question him about this device? Namely the question of what, if anything, made it unfeasible to place one of those devices in the hands of everyone, to provide unbeatable protection at all times? You wouldn't see a typical fantasy character ask this type of question, but this version of Harry Potter is not a typical fantasy character, and almost always asks these types of prudent questions. It's likely it would, for whatever reason, be impractical to mass produce, and it probably wouldn't be easy to convince Dumbledore to even answer. But I expected him to at least ''ask''.

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* When Dumbledore told Harry of the device Grindelwald held that made him invincible to all attacks, why didn't Harry stop to question him about this device? Namely the question of what, if anything, made it unfeasible to place one of those devices in the hands of everyone, to provide unbeatable protection at all times? You wouldn't see a typical fantasy character ask this type of question, but this version of Harry Potter is not a typical fantasy character, and almost always asks these types of prudent questions. It's likely it would, for whatever reason, be impractical to mass produce, produce ([[spoiler:edit: almost certainly, now that I know it was the Elder Wand]]), and it probably wouldn't be easy to convince Dumbledore to even answer. But I expected him to at least ''ask''.
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* When Dumbledore told Harry of the device Grindelwald held that made him invincible to all attacks, why didn't Harry stop to question him about this device? Namely the question of what, if anything, made it unfeasible to place one of those devices in the hands of everyone, to provide unbeatable protection at all times? You wouldn't see a typical fantasy character ask this type of question, but this version of Harry Potter is not a typical fantasy character, and almost always asks these types of prudent questions. It's likely it would, for whatever reason, be impractical to mass produce, and it probably wouldn't be easy to convince Dumbledore to even answer. But I expected him to at least ''ask''.

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* When Dumbledore told Harry of the device Grindelwald held that made him invincible to all attacks, why didn't Harry stop to question him about this device? Namely the question of what, if anything, made it unfeasible to place one of those devices in the hands of everyone, to provide unbeatable protection at all times? You wouldn't see a typical fantasy character ask this type of question, but this version of Harry Potter is not a typical fantasy character, and almost always asks these types of prudent questions. It's likely it would, for whatever reason, be impractical to mass produce, and it probably wouldn't be easy to convince Dumbledore to even answer. But I expected him to at least ''ask''.''ask''.
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* When Dumbledore told Harry of the device Grindelwald held that made him invincible to all attacks, why didn't Harry stop to question him about this device? Namely the question of what, if anything, made it unfeasible to place one of those devices in the hands of everyone, to provide unbeatable protection at all times? You wouldn't see a typical fantasy character ask this type of question, but this version of Harry Potter is not a typical fantasy character, and almost always asks these types of prudent questions. It's likely it would, for whatever reason, be impractical to mass produce, and it probably wouldn't be easy to convince Dumbledore to even answer. But I expected him to at least ''ask''.
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*** If this were true, Tom Riddle would be Tom Gaunt and Snape would be Prince.
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** To clarify: Remember the point before the [[spoiler:Azkaban Incident]] when the Defense professor makes a statement about [[spoiler:Black]] to which Harry infers he's speaking about [[spoiler:Sirius]]; the misunderstanding arises from conflating the information we got early on about Sirius with Harry's inference about Bellatrix.
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** Simply because Voldermort/Quirrel managed to bluff everyone into thinking he could effortlessly tamper with Hogwart's wards, which mind you, are supposed to operate on a much higher level than the map, as demonstrated with both Draco's attempted murder and Hermione's very real murder. The urgency of the situation prompted Dumbledore to use the map to locate Harry but it is entirely possible that he realized that the map was pretty much useless off-screen beforehand now that, what he believes at the time to be the disembodied spirit of Voldermort, is able to trick the wards.
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** [[http://www.evernote.com/pub/adelenedawner/Eliezer#b=90390ce2-1356-4522-959e-a300957704c5&x=voldemort%2520&n=dd273d9e-ec3a-429f-a6f5-65aa6518b67d Here.]] [[spoiler:The author explicitly states that Quirrel is Voldemort, and that we should know by this point.]]

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** [[http://www.evernote.com/pub/adelenedawner/Eliezer#b=90390ce2-1356-4522-959e-a300957704c5&x=voldemort%2520&n=dd273d9e-ec3a-429f-a6f5-65aa6518b67d com/pub/adelenedawnerf/Eliezer#b=90390ce2-1356-4522-959e-a300957704c5&x=voldemort%2520&n=dd273d9e-ec3a-429f-a6f5-65aa6518b67d Here.]] [[spoiler:The author explicitly states that Quirrel is Voldemort, and that we should know by this point.]]




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**Not to mention, Partial Transfiguration is actually something that happens in canon, so it's a little strange that the Transfiguration professor told Harry it was impossible. Canonically, partial transfiguration happens when the wizard/witch doesn't concentrate enough when performing a transfiguration spell, so it would have made a lot more sense for McGonnagal to say "There's no point in doing partial transfiguration" rather than "It's impossible".
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** If it was a 1.0 Horcrux he wouldn't remember his time in space from the plague. It wouldn't have been hidden as he knew how it worked. It was one of his earliest 2.0 horcruxs. He just leveled up his intelligence more than once and thought to start hiding them better. Also the real Quirrel was waking up when the 1.0 horcruxes overwrite the brain of the victim. There would have been no real Quirrel to wake up.

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** If it was a 1.0 Horcrux he wouldn't remember his time in space from the plague.plaque. It wouldn't have been hidden as he knew how it worked. It was one of his earliest 2.0 horcruxs. He just leveled up his intelligence more than once and thought to start hiding them better. Also the real Quirrel was waking up when the 1.0 horcruxes overwrite the brain of the victim. There would have been no real Quirrel to wake up.
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** The biggest hint in the canon is how muggles are treated. Two words, memory charms. We are the culmination of our experiences and yet Barty Crouch repeatedly wipes the memory of the grounds keeper guy with nary a second thought. Wizards can heal pretty much every illness imaginable and yet muggles are out there with alzeimers and cancer. As far as I'm concerned wizards dont have long lives because of inate magic, but due to magical healing. There existence and lack of caring makes them responsible for the short lives of every muggle.

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** The biggest hint in the canon is how muggles are treated. Two words, memory charms. We are the culmination of our experiences and yet Barty Crouch repeatedly wipes the memory of the grounds keeper guy with nary a second thought. Wizards can heal pretty much every illness imaginable and yet muggles are out there with alzeimers Alzheimer's and cancer. As far as I'm concerned wizards dont don't have long lives because of inate innate magic, but due to magical healing. There existence and lack of caring makes them responsible for the short lives of every muggle.



** Now that we have the explanation of how the horcrux works, we see why it wouldn't help. A horcrux is created by killing someone violently to ensure they become a ghost (Thus eliminating any mercy-kill plans) then overwrites the ghost with the imprint of the killer. The ghost is then bound to a cursed artefact so that it can possess the next person to touch it. Harry wouldn't be killing half the population to make the rest immortal, he'd be killing two thirds of the population (for each horcrux you need one ghost and possessed person) to at most double the lifespan of the rest.

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** Now that we have the explanation of how the horcrux works, we see why it wouldn't help. A horcrux is created by killing someone violently to ensure they become a ghost (Thus eliminating any mercy-kill plans) then overwrites the ghost with the imprint of the killer. The ghost is then bound to a cursed artefact artifact so that it can possess the next person to touch it. Harry wouldn't be killing half the population to make the rest immortal, he'd be killing two thirds of the population (for each horcrux you need one ghost and possessed person) to at most double the lifespan of the rest.



** One should note that Transifguration in HPATHM is stated to work differently than the main one, having NoOntologicalInertia and even a first year can transfigure anything into anything else if given enough time and is allow to concentrate. Also, "failed" ones in the books results in, say, a badly cup transfigured from a rat will have brown fur or something that effects the entire cup rather than just part of the cup.
** Even if effects in canon did look like partial transfiguration, they aren't inconsistent with MoR!transfiguration rules. Under MoR rules, you can use normal transfiguration to create an effect that looks a lot like partial transfiguration, it just takes longer. You can't transfigure part of a metal ball, but you 'can' transigure a whole metal ball into a ball made mostly of metal and a little bit made of something else.

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** One should note that Transifguration Transfiguration in HPATHM HPMoR is stated to work differently than the main one, having NoOntologicalInertia and even a first year can transfigure anything into anything else if given enough time and is allow to concentrate. Also, "failed" ones in the books results in, say, a badly cup transfigured from a rat will have brown fur or something that effects the entire cup rather than just part of the cup.
** Even if effects in canon did look like partial transfiguration, they aren't inconsistent with MoR!transfiguration rules. Under MoR rules, you can use normal transfiguration to create an effect that looks a lot like partial transfiguration, it just takes longer. You can't transfigure part of a metal ball, but you 'can' transigure transfigure a whole metal ball into a ball made mostly of metal and a little bit made of something else.



** I think EY's theory of wizard genetics is flawed, but one possible answer to your question is that wizards have some sort of intuition that causes them to feel attracted to squibs (which includes distant descendents of wizards, not just first-generation squibs) but not ordinary muggles. (Think Voldemort's mother's crush on Riddle sr.)

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** I think EY's theory of wizard genetics is flawed, but one possible answer to your question is that wizards have some sort of intuition that causes them to feel attracted to squibs (which includes distant descendents of wizards, not just first-generation squibs) but not ordinary muggles. (Think Voldemort's mother's crush on Riddle sr.Sr.)



** "For example, call back Pierre de Fermat and ask him what his truly marvelous demonstration of his A^n+B^n=C^n where N>2 was, without all the modern math used by Wiles... Wait, no, the proof came [[BreakingTheFourthWall a decade and a half before the knowledge of Timeless Space that Elizier Yudkowsky's letting me know]], but [[TimeyWimeyBall a year after my present...]]" (The most plausible way I've been able to interpret it was "Ask my dead birth parents about something like Lily's lost earring- wait, no, let's make that someone less emotionally relevant to myself..." but I'm hoping someone else, or a definitive statement by EZ, will better answer the above headscratcher.)

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** "For example, call back Pierre de Fermat and ask him what his truly marvelous demonstration of his A^n+B^n=C^n where N>2 was, without all the modern math used by Wiles... Wait, no, the proof came [[BreakingTheFourthWall a decade and a half before the knowledge of Timeless Space that Elizier Yudkowsky's letting me know]], but [[TimeyWimeyBall a year after my present...]]" (The most plausible way I've been able to interpret it was "Ask my dead birth parents about something like Lily's lost earring- wait, no, let's make that someone less emotionally relevant to myself..." but I'm hoping someone else, or a definitive statement by EZ, EY, will better answer the above headscratcher.)



** Because to send a Patronus you must honestly wish to tell a messsage. What can you possibly say to[[spoiler: Death incarnate that can't communicate with you? Especially if it behaves as you expect it to, and you know that it CAN'T talk, or even think.]]

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** Because to send a Patronus you must honestly wish to tell a messsage.message. What can you possibly say to[[spoiler: Death incarnate that can't communicate with you? Especially if it behaves as you expect it to, and you know that it CAN'T talk, or even think.]]
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** Harry might have needed the wand in order for the Unbreakable Vow to work.
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** He was still the obsessive person from canon who wanted to prove himself to his Death Eaters.
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* Why, why, why does Voldemort (who has been established as a true believer of [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill There Is No Kill Like Overkill]]) not remove Harry's wand during the final confrontation? For one that uses an Unbreakable Vow to decimate Harry's world-destroying potential as much as possible before issuing a detailed plan to make sure Harry would be dead, that seems too stupid and deliberate a mistake.
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** [[spoiler:The fanfic itself does end up explicitly revealing that Quirrell is Voldemort during the climax. Whether or not you felt the hints were legitimate before, it's indisputable now.]]

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** I'm pretty sure it's something like "Parseltongue makes you say what you would have said if you were (intending) to tell the truth". I think it manipulates your ''intentions'' or something like that, based on a combination of textual evidence (Harry describes the feeling as the truth "just slipping out", his words seamlessly changing despite his - conscious - intention) and the author's focus on "coherent extrapolated volition". The evidence seems to fit the theory of "it changed his subconscious intention, then made him act on the new one". If this were true, the above test would have the same result as the canonical one - the truth would "just slip out".
** Expanding on this, I think this is also why Occlumency can beat Veritaserum, but not the Parseltongue curse[[note]]Aside from the obvious Doylist explanation of "not wanting Veritaserum to be a StoryBreakerPower[=/=]constant source of FridgeLogic, but wanting/needing Parseltongue to be trustworthy" [[/note]]:
*** Veritaserum presumably forces a ''conscious'' urge to "tell the truth as you believe it" (or something like that)[[note]]And there is some textual evidence for this, or at least that it creates an urge the conscious mind can recognize but cannot (effectively) fight, as seen in the Hermione Wizengamot interrogation scene[[/note]] - but with Occlumency in play, both "you" and "believe" become blurry terms. If one is skilled with Occlumency, they can easily create an Occlumency-constructed personality that ''genuinely doesn't'' believe whatever they're trying to avoid saying, thus "confusing" the potion (or just use a "blank" Occlumency persona, like a rock, to avoid saying anything). Presumably, Veritaserum works via the same "surfaces" as Legilimency attacks, and thus is similarly defended against via Occlumency.
*** Meanwhile, the Parseltongue curse works at the deeper level of ''intentions'', which are ''not'' so easy to fake, if at all ''possible'' to - even if an Occlumency persona "intends" something, the ''true'' intention of ''creating'' that persona, and therefore, arguably, ''its'' true intention, is ''whatever your'' true intention is.
** And yeah. Harry had no time or safety for trickery and/or investigation IIRC.
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** Wut?  Err, are you sure you're posting on the right Headscratchers page?  Because that question made approximately 0.0% sense in the context of ''Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.''
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** Beyond all the good points you made about the Weasleys' attitude toward Muggles, you also make a good point about Ron. Out of all the Weasleys, he is the one who marries a Muggle-born, after all.

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** Beyond all the good points you made about the Weasleys' attitude toward Muggles, muggles, you also make a good point about Ron. Out of all the Weasleys, he is the one who marries a Muggle-born, muggleborn, after all.



** Exactly my point. Of of the Weasleys, Ron is the only one who marries a muggle-born.

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** Exactly my point. Of of all the Weasleys, Ron is the only one who marries a muggle-born.muggleborn.



** But Wizards also do things involving the mind to other wizards. They let Dementors at their prisoners after all. They just don't have the same opinions on the mind as Muggles do.
** It's all over canon. Wizards think nothing of altering muggle memories to maintain the statue of secrecy (most evident at the World Cup), or of breaking into their house while they're on vacation and using it as a free hotel (neither Harry nor Dumbledore condemn Slughorn for this). When muggles are killed by giants and terrorist attacks on bridges, wizards don't care that their family members will never know the truth of the incident. When a muggle poses any kind of problem, a quick confounding charm is seen as a good solution (Dumbledore at the orphanage comes to mind). Wizards draw the line at killing muggles, or hurting them for your own amusement, but everything else is fair game. See [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6606864/1/The-Search-for-Supernatural-Life this]] fic for more. They are literally treated more like animals or children than like fellow adult humans.
** Look at Fudge's treatment of the Prime Minister, the elected official of the Muggle government of Great Britain. Look at Hermione, who after four years spent in the Wizarding world has [[YouWillBeAssimilated been assimilated]] to point that she, the supposed [[KnowNothingKnowItAll know-it-all]], refers to technology a "substitute" for magic, positing that magic is superior, when in fact technology is merely the technical term for advanced tools and that it in many ways surpasses magic. Who was the first wizard on the moon, after all? Or the first wizard to blow up a city? And finally, look at how they never once ask the Muggles for help against Voldemort, despite the fact that an air force bomber could have taken out the entire Death Eater army without any difficulty whatsoever, and that if they appealed to the Muggle government directly, they most likely would have helped them secretly to honor their International Statute of Secrecy.

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** But Wizards wizards also do things involving the mind to other wizards. They let Dementors dementors at their prisoners prisoners, after all. They just don't have the same opinions on the mind as Muggles muggles do.
** It's all over canon. Wizards think nothing of altering muggle memories to maintain the statue statute of secrecy (most evident at the World Cup), or of breaking into their house muggles' houses while they're on vacation and using it them as a free hotel hotels (neither Harry nor Dumbledore condemn Slughorn for this). When muggles are killed by giants and terrorist attacks on bridges, wizards don't care that their the muggles' family members will never know the truth of the incident. When a muggle poses any kind of problem, a quick confounding charm is seen as a good solution (Dumbledore at the orphanage comes to mind). Wizards draw the line at killing muggles, or hurting them for your own amusement, but everything else is fair game. See [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6606864/1/The-Search-for-Supernatural-Life this]] fic for more. They are literally treated more like animals or children than like fellow adult humans.
** Look at Fudge's treatment of the Prime Minister, the elected official of the Muggle muggle government of Great Britain. Look at Hermione, who after four years spent in the Wizarding wizarding world has [[YouWillBeAssimilated been assimilated]] to point that she, the supposed [[KnowNothingKnowItAll know-it-all]], refers to technology as a "substitute" for magic, positing that magic is superior, when in fact technology is merely the technical term for advanced tools and that it in many ways surpasses magic. Who was the first wizard on the moon, Moon, after all? Or the first wizard to blow up a city? And finally, Finally, look at how they never once ask the Muggles muggles for help against Voldemort, despite the fact that an air force bomber could have taken out the entire Death Eater army without any difficulty whatsoever, and that if they appealed to the Muggle muggle government directly, they most likely would have helped them secretly to honor their International Statute of Secrecy.
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*** This was essentially confirmed in canon in Snape's flashback from Deathly Hallows. [[spoiler:When Dumbledore asks Snape to be the one to kill him instead of Draco after learning he has a year to live, Snape asks if his soul is worth so little. Dumbledore responds that it shouldn't tear Snape's soul to mercy kill a dying man who's asked for it.]]

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*** ** This was essentially confirmed in canon in Snape's flashback from Deathly Hallows. [[spoiler:When Dumbledore asks Snape to be the one to kill him instead of Draco after learning he has a year to live, Snape asks if his soul is worth so little. Dumbledore responds that it shouldn't tear Snape's soul to mercy kill a dying man who's asked for it.]]



In chapter 79, Dumbledore (temporarily) retrieves the Map of Hogwarts, and uses it to search for a "Tom Riddle". Quirrel has already been taken into custody at this point, so the only person who would show up on said map would be Harry. However, why would Dumbledore not try to use the map more often? After all, he suspects the shade of Voldemort is hiding at Hogwarts and occasionally possessing people. The map identifies people by their mind, not their body (which Dumbledore knows, because Harry shows up as "Tom Riddle"), so anyone possessed by Voldemort should show up as "Tom Riddle". Why doesn't he check the map more often? Or use it in combination with the time turner while investigating either the chapter 79 or 89 incidents (in case Voldemort had cut his time-turner evasion close because he didn't know about the map)?

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* In chapter 79, Dumbledore (temporarily) retrieves the Map of Hogwarts, and uses it to search for a "Tom Riddle". Quirrel has already been taken into custody at this point, so the only person who would show up on said map would be Harry. However, why would Dumbledore not try to use the map more often? After all, he suspects the shade of Voldemort is hiding at Hogwarts and occasionally possessing people. The map identifies people by their mind, not their body (which Dumbledore knows, because Harry shows up as "Tom Riddle"), so anyone possessed by Voldemort should show up as "Tom Riddle". Why doesn't he check the map more often? Or use it in combination with the time turner while investigating either the chapter 79 or 89 incidents (in case Voldemort had cut his time-turner evasion close because he didn't know about the map)?

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