History Headscratchers / HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince

3rd Feb '16 8:57:41 PM k410ren
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** He still didn't try and get proof that Malfoy was a Death Eater. Guess he hadn't learned that ''his'' word doesn't mean that people are going to believe him, due to all the negative press he received due to barely anyone believing that Voldemort had returned in the previous book.
3rd Feb '16 3:42:07 PM Tuckerscreator
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** Harry doesn't get the hang of nonverbal spells until he discovers Levicorpus, and even after that he's still rusty with them and prefers speaking out loud. As for Stunning Malfoy, Draco has been spending most of his free time in the Room of Requirement (which Harry doesn't learn he is until halfway through the book) and until the restroom incident he hadn't managed to find Draco alone and unprotected.
3rd Feb '16 7:56:48 AM k410ren
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[[folder: Proof that Malfoy is a Death Eater]] * Why didn't Harry ''try'' and get proof that Malfoy's a Death Eater? Was it so hard to stun Malfoy with a nonverbal spell and pull up his left sleeve to find the Dark Mark? He (Harry) knows that every Death Eater has the Dark Mark on their left forearm, he saw Snape show his Dark Mark to Fudge back in the fourth book. [[/folder]]
26th Jan '16 2:30:19 AM Matchieu
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** the "Ron you're making it snow" scene happens in the book too. But its either in the common room, or Charms classroom
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** the "Ron you're making it snow" scene happens in the book too. But its it's either in the common room, or Charms classroom

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** the "Ron you're making IIRC, it snow" scene happens was in the book too. But its either in Great Hall, where the common room, or Charms classroomceiling is already enchanted to mimic weather anyway, and he did have his wand directed at the ceiling, so he was probably performing accidental magic due to his emotions.
21st Jan '16 8:41:26 PM Discar
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The murder of his father and grandparents was covered perfectly thanks to crappy magic detection system that apparently allows underage wizards to cast murder spells as long as they do with a wand that belongs to an adult. Tom even brainwashed his uncle to make him think he murdered the Riddles and all, but it's stated that in order to loot and charm him, Tom first had to Stupify him using his own wand, an action that was done obviously outside of Hogwarts on a summer vacation. It is unclear which wand was used to tamper with Morfin's memories, but the fact stays: at least one spell was casted by a sixteen year old wizard using his wand. Wasn't that supposed to alert the underage detection system? Double alarming if the brainwashing was also performed with Tom's own wand, or even if it was done with Morfin's. If anybody bothered to check the last spells used by Morfin's wand, the VERY LAST ONE in that case would be the false memory charm. If Tom still used his own wand for that, then that would be two suspicious spells casted by underage wizard(s) in a roughly the same area, depending on how good the location detection works. Of course people like Dumbledore would figure everything out even without that information available, but didn't anybody in the ministry bother at all? One little area, triple homicide, at least one spell casted by an underage wizard, false memory charm being the last spell casted either by Morfin's wand or someone underage, and all in one day? Did the ministry jsut brush that off? * The Trace detects magic cast in the area, not who did the casting. They would've caught a whiff of magic being cast in the Little Hangleton area (if the Trace even followed Riddle), but reading Morfin's wand would probably only come up with the three murders. This might be a little early in the timeline to say this, but there definitely was more the Ministry could've done but didn't.
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* The murder of his father and grandparents was covered perfectly thanks to crappy magic detection system that apparently allows underage wizards to cast murder spells as long as they do with a wand that belongs to an adult. Tom even brainwashed his uncle to make him think he murdered the Riddles and all, but it's stated that in order to loot and charm him, Tom first had to Stupify him using his own wand, an action that was done obviously outside of Hogwarts on a summer vacation. It is unclear which wand was used to tamper with Morfin's memories, but the fact stays: at least one spell was casted by a sixteen year old wizard using his wand. Wasn't that supposed to alert the underage detection system? Double alarming if the brainwashing was also performed with Tom's own wand, or even if it was done with Morfin's. If anybody bothered to check the last spells used by Morfin's wand, the VERY LAST ONE in that case would be the false memory charm. If Tom still used his own wand for that, then that would be two suspicious spells casted by underage wizard(s) in a roughly the same area, depending on how good the location detection works. Of course people like Dumbledore would figure everything out even without that information available, but didn't anybody in the ministry bother at all? One little area, triple homicide, at least one spell casted by an underage wizard, false memory charm being the last spell casted either by Morfin's wand or someone underage, and all in one day? Did the ministry jsut brush that off? * ** The Trace detects magic cast in the area, not who did the casting. They would've caught a whiff of magic being cast in the Little Hangleton area (if the Trace even followed Riddle), but reading Morfin's wand would probably only come up with the three murders. This might be a little early in the timeline to say this, but there definitely was more the Ministry could've done but didn't.
21st Jan '16 3:25:01 PM phineas81707
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*The Trace detects magic cast in the area, not who did the casting. They would've caught a whiff of magic being cast in the Little Hangleton area (if the Trace even followed Riddle), but reading Morfin's wand would probably only come up with the three murders. This might be a little early in the timeline to say this, but there definitely was more the Ministry could've done but didn't.
21st Jan '16 2:18:33 PM spiritcc
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[[folder: Tom Riddle and underage magic]] The murder of his father and grandparents was covered perfectly thanks to crappy magic detection system that apparently allows underage wizards to cast murder spells as long as they do with a wand that belongs to an adult. Tom even brainwashed his uncle to make him think he murdered the Riddles and all, but it's stated that in order to loot and charm him, Tom first had to Stupify him using his own wand, an action that was done obviously outside of Hogwarts on a summer vacation. It is unclear which wand was used to tamper with Morfin's memories, but the fact stays: at least one spell was casted by a sixteen year old wizard using his wand. Wasn't that supposed to alert the underage detection system? Double alarming if the brainwashing was also performed with Tom's own wand, or even if it was done with Morfin's. If anybody bothered to check the last spells used by Morfin's wand, the VERY LAST ONE in that case would be the false memory charm. If Tom still used his own wand for that, then that would be two suspicious spells casted by underage wizard(s) in a roughly the same area, depending on how good the location detection works. Of course people like Dumbledore would figure everything out even without that information available, but didn't anybody in the ministry bother at all? One little area, triple homicide, at least one spell casted by an underage wizard, false memory charm being the last spell casted either by Morfin's wand or someone underage, and all in one day? Did the ministry jsut brush that off? [[/folder]]
21st Jan '16 1:59:28 PM spiritcc
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[[folder: Tom Riddle, triple homicide and the wizard law]] We don't know how old the law that prohibits underage students from using magic anywhere outside of Hogwarts is, but something tells me it surely existed during Tom Riddle's late school years. He was sixteen when he killed his father and grandparents, in a somewhat English countryside that was obviously not Hogwarts. Of course the whole system is not reliable and only spots spells used, not the actual person casting them, but Tom Riddle's case must've been the most obvious one due to many circumstances. For instance, the system has spotted an underage wizard casting THREE MURDER SPELLS in a rapid succession. Even though the ministry might not know who actually did it, just a little inspection would reveal that two out of three victims were named Tom Riddle, and if one would look at the junior one, a disturbing resemblance to one yet unknown to anybody Tom Riddle would be all too obvious. The ministry workers themselves wouldn't figure anything out, but people like Dumbledore and other teachers? Was the story ever big enough to get into the news outside of its town to be actually spotted? Because if it wasn't, it's my only best guess as to why the hell this disaster was never noticed despite it being about muggles killed by an underage person with an actual unforgivable curse. [[/folder]]
21st Jan '16 1:51:30 PM spiritcc
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---- [[folder: Tom Riddle, triple homicide and the wizard law]] We don't know how old the law that prohibits underage students from using magic anywhere outside of Hogwarts is, but something tells me it surely existed during Tom Riddle's late school years. He was sixteen when he killed his father and grandparents, in a somewhat English countryside that was obviously not Hogwarts. Of course the whole system is not reliable and only spots spells used, not the actual person casting them, but Tom Riddle's case must've been the most obvious one due to many circumstances. For instance, the system has spotted an underage wizard casting THREE MURDER SPELLS in a rapid succession. Even though the ministry might not know who actually did it, just a little inspection would reveal that two out of three victims were named Tom Riddle, and if one would look at the junior one, a disturbing resemblance to one yet unknown to anybody Tom Riddle would be all too obvious. The ministry workers themselves wouldn't figure anything out, but people like Dumbledore and other teachers? Was the story ever big enough to get into the news outside of its town to be actually spotted? Because if it wasn't, it's my only best guess as to why the hell this disaster was never noticed despite it being about muggles killed by an underage person with an actual unforgivable curse. [[/folder]]
3rd Jan '16 9:28:28 AM Gess
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** Yes, and, as we know, V would certainly balk from the prospective of killing several people for such a trivial reason.
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