History Headscratchers / HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallowsAlbusDumbledoreGoodOrBad

** Refutation of two points above. First off, the only weakness in the Fidelius Charm is that the Secret Keeper might betray you. Since Dumbledore could use ''himself'' for the Secret Keeper, that's obviously not a problem for him! As far as 'there is no way to break the blood protections', that's wrong again; the blood protections only work so long as Harry is still living at Privet Drive. The instant Vernon or Petunia chucks him out permanently and not just temporarily, *poof*, its gone. And given that they didn't want him there anyway... let's just say that if, oh, Narcissa Malfoy had walked up to Vernon in his office at Grunnings one day and said 'Give Harry's custody over to me and I'll give you this huge sack of gold', Vernon would sign the paperwork so fast he'd break the pen. So, really, Dumbledore's blood protections are a pure IdiotPlot; he's an idiot for thinking they'd work, and the Death Eaters are total idiots for actually being so made of fail that in seventeen years they can't think of a plan that literally took me longer to type out than to compose in the first place.

** DD is Light side of the Force, Riddle is Dark side. Both are evil like in the StarWars prequels.

** YouKeepUsingThatWord. Care to elaborate in ''your own words'' how that particular plan wouldn't work? (Mind you, when I wrote "stop him" I obviously meant ''after'' it attacked Colin, so the precious Loop wouldn't suffer).

** For the duration of "Prisoner" DD reguralry convents with Dementors and scares them into obedience.
** Time Turners allow several people to travel at least several hours into the past and directly intervene in it, thus shaping the present (please don't start on that tired STL bullshift again - they DO intervene and the DO steer the events away from their inteded path - BuckBeak survives solely ''because'' of their inervention). What more "capability" is needed?

** Agreed, Dumbledore is more the BigGood than [[ManipulativeBastard evil incarnate]]. He has his flaws, but that makes him three-dimensional and human, rather than a carboard cut-out.

** In terms of magical power probably but not political. Being offered government office is one thing if you're a celebrated war hero. Another if you're a radical who's calling for abandoning tradition. We saw how the average wizard would react to his politics in GoF when he confronts Fudge. The Minister insists on the inherent goodness and respect owed "established" families like the Malfoys. And Fudge is perceived as closer to Dumbledore's politics than many.

*** I love how this "better" option hinges upon Dumbledore using an Unforgiveable.

** This wasn't just any old foster arrangement with any old kid. Set aside the fact that Harry is going to be super famous; this is taking place at the most TWO DAYS after Voldie's defeat. Death Eaters are still running around, Sirius Black blew up a street block, and the wizarding world is generally in a state of confusion. I'm sure we can all agree that priority should be given to Harry's safety and well being. In my mind, the wizarding world would not be safe for Harry at this point! If I were a Death Eater, I wouldn't mind getting ahold of that little twerp to deal out some cold, hard revenge. Give him to someone in the Order of the Phoenix? Even if it was a secure enough location that Death Eaters wouldn't find him, might I remind you that they were just given some bad news about Sirius Black, that traitor. Might Dumbledore's confidence in his fellow members of the order be a little diminished? Putting him in the Muggle world was kind of a genius move, I thought. 99% of wizards are so out of touch with the Muggle World that they couldn't operate a standard telephone. Track down Harry Potter in the Muggle world? Fat Chance! The move was probably made quickly, so that Harry could be put somewhere safe before the confusion died down and all eyes were on him (including the eyes of assassins). The fact that there is a perfect little house that will give him magical protection, within owl distance of Hogwarts, was a total bonus. I suspect that (A) by the time McGonagall delivered her report on the Dursleys, Dumbledore felt that it was too late to change plans, and that (B) Wizards have little understanding of social sciences, particularly the psychological effects of violence and abuse.

** Yes, but HE didn't know parsletongue. He might have suspected a basilisk but he had no way to verify it and Harry didn't mention to anyone but Harry and Hermione that he was hearing voices and they told him that was weird and to not tell people about it.

** They don't just automatically know everything everyone else knows, they have to actually enter the minds of the person and locate the infomation. It's not exactly a subtle thing and Harry would have certainly realized something was up. I'm also fairly certain it requires eye contact and while Harry might maintain that with Dumbledore while feeling intruded upon he certainly would not have with Snape. Also, even if he knew it was a basilisk and he knew Harry wasa parsletongie, which everyone knew after the duelling club, there's still the matter of finding the Chamber of Secrets, figuring out how to open it witout being able to speak the language (and Dumbledore certainly wouldn't have brought Harry along at this point), figuring out who's controlling the basilisk and destroying the diary, assuming he even figured out what it was. Could Dumbledore have done that? Maybe, but it's not what happened.

*** Does Dumbledore actually have any control over the students' curriculum? Everything I've read implied that the teachers were the ones who put lessons together. What evidence is there that the Hogwarts portraits act as some sort of spy network? (If they did, Umbridge probably would have let them stick around). WHY would Hagrid go along with fake-leaking such dangerous information? WHY would the other teachers go along with Dumbledore's bizarre plan? After all, it was explicitly stated that each of the professors constructed one of the obstacles. I seriously doubt McGonagall, at least, would stand for it.

** This one is based on hindsight more than anything else. The readers understand that Harry charged in, resulting in Sirius' death, because he felt that his mentors had abandoned him. That's hindsight. At the time, Dumbledore knew that he was alienating Harry in a way as some misguided sort of protection: not physical protection, emotional. We are upset at Dumbledore for withholding information, not because (at the time) we think it will provide him some way to defend himself, but because we feel Harry has a right to know this information. Dumbledore also knew that Voldemort might try to manipulate Harry, which he warned Harry about. Emotional reactions, like Harry charging into the Department of Mysteries after the fake!vision, are not as predictable as some of you might make it out to be. Having warned Harry about the visions, one might have expected him to report it to Dumbledore, or one of the Order members, perhaps McGonagall or Snape. In hindsight, Dumbledore apologizes, realizing that the risk of opening Harry to sensitive information might have been worth his emotional health. Just because he is responsible for it does not make him inept or malicious.

*** The problem with siding with an idea [in this case be convinced that Dumbledore is evil and trying to convince everyone else] is that no matter what Dumbledore does, supports the theory. If he is active about something then is his fault because he caused it, if he is passive (like not using legilimency) then is his fault because of negligency, if the scenarios where the other way around then they’ll be using the “he MindRape students” as prove. But, to be honest, same logic is use by the “Dumbledore is good” supporters, though inverted, because that’s how human mind works.

** Alright, definitely some people did read different books or maybe some fanfics. Sorry but the books (the real, official ones) made clear that the Dursleys were always careful enough that their abuse of Harry never brought them legal problems. They never physically abused him or malnourished him, he also has glasses so they took him to the eye doctor, he has normal teeth so they pay for regular visits to the dentist, etc. They only became meaner as the books continue and several circumstances embittered them against him even further, and then yes they started to do things like lock him in his bedroom and deprive him of food after several magical incidents cause them trouble (which was a common gag in the books). The pan to the head case was a very obscure reference from a memory of Harry being a child and could easily be just a treat that he remembered different (though still ethically questionable) but, call me naïve, I never ever thought Petunia would ever hit Harry. Vernon, maybe, but even he doesn’t seem the kind of person that would beat a child. And as said before, even if Vernon’s abuse would be enough for him to be jailed (very doubtfully by the way, sadly even in real life you need to do a lot worst to a child to be put in jail) as other tropers said then what? Petunia doesn’t have a job, how is she gonna raise TWO kids? \\\