History Headscratchers / HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallowsAlbusDumbledoreGoodOrBad

8th Aug '16 3:20:35 PM BB8ForPresident
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** On the whole "Dumbledore shouldn't have favoured Harry!"...Well yeah he should have because he ensured ''Harry didn't have a proper guardian.'' It wasn't a teacher-student relationship, it was Dumbledore taking responsibility of Harry the moment he sent Hagrid to fetch him after his parent's were killed. We know Lily and James in their will dictated who would get guardianship of Harry if they died, and they probably listed a lot of people as back ups given how many people were dying. ("If we die A gets Harry, if A is dead B gets Harry, if B is dead C gets Harry....") It's confirmed Sirius was first, and presumably Remus, Peter, Dumbledore, and maybe other Order members/Lily's friends came in whatever order next. If Dumbledore was entitled to guardianship ''after'' Remus and Peter then he skipped them and broke the law. If he was before them, then yes, he absolutely could adopt him or - because of the blood protection - at least take a hands on role in Harry's life. Even if there wasn't any legal guardianship process, he still took on that role and no one else seemed able to object. But instead of him taking care of Harry he didn't contact him for his whole childhood and at Hogwarts didn't given Harry access to him as anything but a kindly headmaster. (Until the sixth and kind of the fifth book). He ensured that the only legal "guardians" Harry had in his life were abusive and of no use in the Wizarding world. And it clearly did have an impact, see: No one to sign Harry's Hogsmeade form, no one to object to him being forced to participate in the Triwizard tournament, no one to protect him against Umbridge. I highly doubt that's what Lily and James would have wanted from Harry's guardian or how they expected a close friend to treat their son. Presumably none of James and Lily's other friends were in the position to challenge Dumbledore's claim to "take care" of Harry: Pettigrew turned traitor, Remus was ostracized from society and Sirius was in Azkaban - though if he'd been free things would have turned out very differently as he never would have let Harry live with an abusive family for 10 years without contact.
5th Jul '16 5:04:31 PM inspibrain101
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*** In hindsight, Pettigrew's escape ensured Voldemort's return. But how would Dumbledore have known it at the time? First of all, he would have had to assume that the rat didn't get swooped up by a hawk as he skittered through the forest...


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*** Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to coincidence or even incompetence.
5th Jul '16 4:54:54 PM inspibrain101
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** A lot of these arguments seem to boil down to, "Dumbledore should have taken better care of Harry!" IMO, there are certain instances where I agree, (such as his placement with the Dursleys,) and yet other points where I resent Dumbledore for his blatant favoritism. Either he should have been a major character in Harry's life, or he should have stayed out of it as much as possible. I.E., he should have either left Harry with the Dursleys, hoping he has a happy life, and see what sort of creature shows up to Hogwarts in ten years, or he should have adopted him himself, jeopardizing his professional reputation.
5th Jul '16 4:50:08 PM inspibrain101
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*** Huh? I'm sorry, what? In this scenario, you claim that DD deliberately arranged it with the help of Riddle so that Harry would receive this info-dump (post-humously?), and info-dump which resulted in the destruction of Voldemort. Yeah... you lost me. Unless that was sarcasm, in which case, this is awkward.
5th Jul '16 4:47:20 PM inspibrain101
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*** A better question would be, what the heck was Harry doing so far from home if he KNEW that Voldemort was alive and probably baying for his blood?
5th Jul '16 4:44:08 PM inspibrain101
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*** Why does Dumbledore even need to be the one to report it? Shouldn't hundreds of Hogwarts students be writing home about the crap she's doing? Let's not ask why Dumbledore isn't making a stink, why isn't ANYBODY making a stink?
5th Jul '16 4:29:21 PM inspibrain101
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** This one is based on hindsight more than anything else. The readers understand that Harry charged in, resulting in Sirius' death, because he felt that his mentors had abandoned him. That's hindsight. At the time, Dumbledore knew that he was alienating Harry in a way as some misguided sort of protection: not physical protection, emotional. We are upset at Dumbledore for withholding information, not because (at the time) we think it will provide him some way to defend himself, but because we feel Harry has a right to know this information. Dumbledore also knew that Voldemort might try to manipulate Harry, which he warned Harry about. Emotional reactions, like Harry charging into the Department of Mysteries after the fake!vision, are not as predictable as some of you might make it out to be. Having warned Harry about the visions, one might have expected him to report it to Dumbledore, or one of the Order members, perhaps McGonagall or Snape. In hindsight, Dumbledore apologizes, realizing that the risk of opening Harry to sensitive information might have been worth his emotional health. Just because he is responsible for it does not make him inept or malicious.
5th Jul '16 4:14:03 PM inspibrain101
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*** I love how this "better" option hinges upon Dumbledore using an Unforgiveable.


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** I always assumed it was a matter of priorities: You have a few hours, tops, to change something to prevent A. the execution of an innocent man in the next few minutes, and/or B. the escape of the real criminal, who turns into a rat and runs off... somewhere. Seems to me that the condemned man in the tower is a bit more pressing concern than Peter Pettigrew. At least with Sirius alive, they still have a chance to gather evidence, or recapture Peter. What is Dumbledore supposed to gain from letting Pettigrew escape? The most common argument I've heard is that he had a grandmaster plan to resurrect Voldemort so that Harry could destroy him once and for all. In that case, how was Dumbledore supposed to know that Peter would play such an important role in that? It all seems based on hindsight, IMO.
5th Jul '16 4:04:02 PM inspibrain101
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*** Basilisks don't normally petrify people; they kill on sight. I suspect that the string of petrifications, (attributed to a series of miraculous coincidences, though I have heard some intriguing theories regarding Salazar Slytherin's true intentions,) is something that a Basilisk has never done, or at least is so rare and unlikely it's never merited a mention in the Magical Creatures textbook. At this point, they are looking at a decent-sized list of magical creatures that can petrify you, with venom or sound or a glance or something equally bizarre, (Darn those magical creatures!). The Basilisk, which is only known to kill, is not even on the board, let alone a "good guess".


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*** Agreed on the legilimens point. What reason does Dumbledore have to probe Harry's mind, so that he would realize he hears voices in the walls? Even if legilimens isn't Mind Rape, it is still a serious breach of privacy, one that ethically shouldn't be used except in only the most desperate situations.
5th Jul '16 3:53:11 PM inspibrain101
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*** Does Dumbledore actually have any control over the students' curriculum? Everything I've read implied that the teachers were the ones who put lessons together. What evidence is there that the Hogwarts portraits act as some sort of spy network? (If they did, Umbridge probably would have let them stick around). WHY would Hagrid go along with fake-leaking such dangerous information? WHY would the other teachers go along with Dumbledore's bizarre plan? After all, it was explicitly stated that each of the professors constructed one of the obstacles. I seriously doubt McGonagall, at least, would stand for it.
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