History Headscratchers / Gradius

23rd Jun '17 9:27:56 PM DecisiveShark
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** [[StableTimeLoop Yes.]]

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** [[StableTimeLoop Yes.[[FridgeBrilliance Yes,]][[StableTimeLoop precisely.]]
23rd Jun '17 9:27:00 PM DecisiveShark
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* Here's the story of Nemesis 3; Venom and Gofer (or Gofer II) travel back in time to year 6644, start the Northern Cross War, the real first Bacterian attack (not the Bacterian attack in Gradius 1) that ends up with most of Venom's race indirectly killed, and kidnap a three-year old James Burton and hold him prisoner so he won't grow up to be the Vic Viper pilot that thwarts the Bacterians. So David Burton, a future descendant of James, goes back in time to defeat the Bacterians and save James. But here's a thing that's bugged me: since Gofer II was killed in 6644 and, taking in account the Bacterians being a form of TheVirus, doesn't that mean that pieces of Gofer II would become sentient and become a new Big Bad that would return to attack Gradius?

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* Here's the story of Nemesis 3; Venom and Gofer (or Gofer II) travel back in time to year 6644, start the Northern Cross War, the real first Bacterian attack (not the Bacterian attack in Gradius 1) that ends up with most of Venom's race indirectly killed, and kidnap a three-year old James Burton and hold him prisoner so he won't grow up to be the Vic Viper pilot that thwarts the Bacterians. So David Burton, a future descendant of James, goes back in time to defeat the Bacterians and save James. But here's a thing that's bugged me: since Gofer II was killed in 6644 and, taking in account the Bacterians being a form of TheVirus, doesn't that mean that pieces of Gofer II would become sentient and become a new Big Bad that would return to attack Gradius?Gradius?
**[[StableTimeLoop Yes.]]
23rd Jun '17 9:25:48 PM DecisiveShark
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** Ironically, according to the timeline of the series, Bacterian *is* permanently dealt with shortly after V.
23rd Jun '17 9:23:23 PM DecisiveShark
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** The Bacterians have a noted ability to manifest metal mechanisms from flesh and even whole planets. This not only explains why the core of the fortresses looks so oddly meaty, but also explains the typical cellular levels of Gradius games in general - Bacterians have already begun transforming that planet.
22nd Jun '15 2:41:55 PM morenaxo
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** If the OVA is anything to go by, they are people whose brains were absorbed into Bacterion's.
24th Feb '15 1:59:39 AM DarkHunter
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** In canon there's currently no way whatsoever in completely deleting the Bacterian threat, and indeed, the last boss of Gradius V stated that shreads of them will be spread each time they're defeated, only to come back in exact measure of strength. With the factor of them becoming stronger through time, you get yourself a galactical version of a human body imperilled with HIV

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** In canon there's currently no way whatsoever in completely deleting the Bacterian threat, and indeed, the last boss of Gradius V stated that shreads shreds of them will be spread each time they're defeated, only to come back in exact measure of strength. With the factor of them becoming stronger through time, you get yourself a galactical galactic version of a human body imperilled imperiled with HIV
HIV.
** ''Gradius NEO'', set very far into Gradius's future, suggests that the Bacterians are eventually dealt with permanently: they're still around, but they've failed to rebuild their intelligence and are basically just animals, harmless to technologically advanced society. The new enemy is instead a human civilization (the Lars Empire) that is using old Bacterian tech as LostTechnology.
17th Mar '14 2:36:41 AM LucaEarlgrey
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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part. The way I see it, two ships traveling together could've drawn the same conclusion about the enemy ships' weaknesses from the scan ("This requires two ships? Hm, this is a two-ship squad...") and then split up to destroy the ship without having to time travel to double their forces.

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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part. The way I see it, two ships traveling together (as in a 2-player game) could've drawn the same conclusion about the enemy ships' weaknesses from the scan ("This requires two ships? Hm, this is a two-ship squad...") and then split up to destroy the ship without having to time travel to double their forces.
17th Mar '14 2:35:35 AM LucaEarlgrey
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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part. The way I see it, two ships traveling together could've drawn the same conclusion about the enemy ships' weaknesses and then split up to destroy the ship without having to time travel to double their forces.

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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part. The way I see it, two ships traveling together could've drawn the same conclusion about the enemy ships' weaknesses from the scan ("This requires two ships? Hm, this is a two-ship squad...") and then split up to destroy the ship without having to time travel to double their forces.
17th Mar '14 2:34:45 AM LucaEarlgrey
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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part.

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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part. The way I see it, two ships traveling together could've drawn the same conclusion about the enemy ships' weaknesses and then split up to destroy the ship without having to time travel to double their forces.
17th Mar '14 2:33:36 AM LucaEarlgrey
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*** Can you please clarify? You haven't addressed the "two players" part.
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