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30th Jun '16 9:14:56 PM H.N.Levian
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** Could Finn have predicted that his comments would be used in a nationally-televised smear campaign? No. Could he have predicted that, in that crowded hallway, there was a possibility that the wrong person might overhear and use that information somehow? Yes, and he should have.
9th Jun '16 6:20:20 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** He was playing a {{Retraux}} flirty-but-sexless "Hi, this is my HeterosexualLifePartner, welcome to our amazing home!" amalgam of different variety special hosts (and narrators). Practically everything he ''did'' was [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar subversively breaking character]], including the diamond necklace subplot. Artie's movie was supposed to fill an entire evening of airtime (the Yule Log video is two to four hours long, I expect a typical Christmas Eve live special to run for at least one hour, if not two), and the part of the show that we saw was only about ten or fifteen minutes long, and Kurt made a comment that the oven wasn't even started yet (in-story) but they had a turkey by the end of it, so there was probably either some DeusExMachina or [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief enough time to make people think they cooked a turkey]]. Also, Rory ''did'' [[ACharlieBrownChristmas go majorly off-script]].

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** He was playing a {{Retraux}} flirty-but-sexless "Hi, this is my HeterosexualLifePartner, welcome to our amazing home!" amalgam of different variety special hosts (and narrators). Practically everything he ''did'' was [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar subversively breaking character]], including the diamond necklace subplot. Artie's movie was supposed to fill an entire evening of airtime (the Yule Log video is two to four hours long, I expect a typical Christmas Eve live special to run for at least one hour, if not two), and the part of the show that we saw was only about ten or fifteen minutes long, and Kurt made a comment that the oven wasn't even started yet (in-story) but they had a turkey by the end of it, so there was probably either some DeusExMachina or [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief enough time to make people think they cooked a turkey]]. Also, Rory ''did'' [[ACharlieBrownChristmas [[WesternAnimation/ACharlieBrownChristmas go majorly off-script]].
30th May '16 1:01:55 PM Josef5678
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** But as of 3x09 we know (but then again we don't) that he has financial issues. The scene where he gives his present to Kurt and explains it will be in the [=DVDs=], so it's official. And this troper finds it likely that Blaine's economic problems will be brought up again in the show ''at least'' as a minor plot point/arc, if not a major one. So, could this be a case of FridgeBrilliance, since we know Dalton is very expensive? Maybe he really wanted to go to McKinley because of his love for Kurt, but that also came at just the right time as he needed to transfer to a more affordable school?

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** But as of 3x09 we know (but then again we don't) that he has financial issues. The scene where he gives his present to Kurt and explains it will be in the [=DVDs=], so it's official. And this troper finds it likely that Blaine's economic problems will be brought up again in the show ''at least'' as a minor plot point/arc, if not a major one. So, could this be a case of FridgeBrilliance, since we know Dalton is very expensive? Maybe he really wanted to go to McKinley [=McKinley=] because of his love for Kurt, but that also came at just the right time as he needed to transfer to a more affordable school?



*** That was at Mckinley, though. They have a terrible football team, so Finn was probably just naturally talented enough compared to everyone else to get the spot despite only being a sophomore. In Quinn's case, it was probably that the former head cheerleader had graduated the previous year and when the spot opened up Quinn was the only one capable of impressing Sue enough to get it. It makes no sense for a sophomore to be the star at Dalton because the Warblers are good and well established and have a clear hierarchy and pure talent alone is not enough to pull you up that hierarchy. In fact, Blaine told Kurt that he needed to stop showing off how good he is LESS so that he'll fit in (which is exactly the opposite of what Blaine does...). The two schools are completely different and it's still inconsistent with what we've seen of Dalton.
*** My reaction to hearing Blaine say he's a Junior caused me to let out a FlatWhat, but I have a possible explanation - if Blaine's bounced around between schools (Dalton, McKinley, and it seems like he went to a different school before Dalton), credit requirements may have been different enough to leave him behind a year. It's an imperfect solution, of course, but it's keeping my blood pressure under control.

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*** That was at Mckinley, [=Mckinley=], though. They have a terrible football team, so Finn was probably just naturally talented enough compared to everyone else to get the spot despite only being a sophomore. In Quinn's case, it was probably that the former head cheerleader had graduated the previous year and when the spot opened up Quinn was the only one capable of impressing Sue enough to get it. It makes no sense for a sophomore to be the star at Dalton because the Warblers are good and well established and have a clear hierarchy and pure talent alone is not enough to pull you up that hierarchy. In fact, Blaine told Kurt that he needed to stop showing off how good he is LESS so that he'll fit in (which is exactly the opposite of what Blaine does...). The two schools are completely different and it's still inconsistent with what we've seen of Dalton.
*** My reaction to hearing Blaine say he's a Junior caused me to let out a FlatWhat, but I have a possible explanation - if Blaine's bounced around between schools (Dalton, McKinley, [=McKinley=], and it seems like he went to a different school before Dalton), credit requirements may have been different enough to leave him behind a year. It's an imperfect solution, of course, but it's keeping my blood pressure under control.



* Is anyone getting as mad about Kurt's character as I have been in the last two episodes? He had to get told by his dad that he is manipulative and needs to calm down in "Duets", but he is back to being manipulative, especially in regards to his relationship with Blaine. First, he convinced Blaine to transfer to McKinley despite all the reasons mentioned above. Now, when they are trying to put on a production of Theatre/WestSideStory, Kurt basically acts like it would be awful if Blaine auditioned for Tony because Kurt wants to be Tony really bad. This somehow makes Blaine decide to audition solely to be any male that isn't Tony, and yet, when the directors ask him to read for Tony, we have to see Kurt acting really betrayed and hurt. I know Kurt has issues with being seen as only the camp gay performer, but I don't think he has the right to bitch to his boyfriend about trying for something Kurt wants. If Kurt isn't right for the role, he shouldn't get it. That's how theater works, and it is frustrating to see him act like it is so awful if Blaine doesn't do what he asks.

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* Is anyone getting as mad about Kurt's character as I have been in the last two episodes? He had to get told by his dad that he is manipulative and needs to calm down in "Duets", but he is back to being manipulative, especially in regards to his relationship with Blaine. First, he convinced Blaine to transfer to McKinley [=McKinley=] despite all the reasons mentioned above. Now, when they are trying to put on a production of Theatre/WestSideStory, Kurt basically acts like it would be awful if Blaine auditioned for Tony because Kurt wants to be Tony really bad. This somehow makes Blaine decide to audition solely to be any male that isn't Tony, and yet, when the directors ask him to read for Tony, we have to see Kurt acting really betrayed and hurt. I know Kurt has issues with being seen as only the camp gay performer, but I don't think he has the right to bitch to his boyfriend about trying for something Kurt wants. If Kurt isn't right for the role, he shouldn't get it. That's how theater works, and it is frustrating to see him act like it is so awful if Blaine doesn't do what he asks.



* My first time using this website, so forgive me if I do it wrong, but I think it made perfect sense. When I was in a new school for one grade only (8th), a boy in the same town who I had gone to elementary school with and now went to a different school than I, committed suicide at the age of 12. I remember clearly finding out because I had been anxious about it being school picture day. I remember the principal and vice principal coming to our classroom just minutes before and talking about Brighton Brown. He asked if we knew about what happened (it had been on the local news, but I hadn't heard), and explained that he had tragically taken his own life. The reasons schools address this is pretty valid: yes, it could prompt other students to hurt themselves, but also because a lot of people that knew him were slightly traumatized by the news, and the principal/teachers wanted us to know that if anyone needed to talk about it, out of school guidance counselors could come in and speak to us one-on-one if we had questions, thoughts, etc. It makes sense that the McKinley staff would want to address it as delicately as possible before EVERYONE found out via the Internet, because, as they put it, Karofsky still had friends at McKinley (not Azimio, obviously) who either didn't know he was gay at that point, or still liked him. I don't know how it works at other schools, but that episode struck as very Truth In Television for me.

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* My first time using this website, so forgive me if I do it wrong, but I think it made perfect sense. When I was in a new school for one grade only (8th), a boy in the same town who I had gone to elementary school with and now went to a different school than I, committed suicide at the age of 12. I remember clearly finding out because I had been anxious about it being school picture day. I remember the principal and vice principal coming to our classroom just minutes before and talking about Brighton Brown. He asked if we knew about what happened (it had been on the local news, but I hadn't heard), and explained that he had tragically taken his own life. The reasons schools address this is pretty valid: yes, it could prompt other students to hurt themselves, but also because a lot of people that knew him were slightly traumatized by the news, and the principal/teachers wanted us to know that if anyone needed to talk about it, out of school guidance counselors could come in and speak to us one-on-one if we had questions, thoughts, etc. It makes sense that the McKinley [=McKinley=] staff would want to address it as delicately as possible before EVERYONE found out via the Internet, because, as they put it, Karofsky still had friends at McKinley [=McKinley=] (not Azimio, obviously) who either didn't know he was gay at that point, or still liked him. I don't know how it works at other schools, but that episode struck as very Truth In Television for me.



** Blaine went to a private school that probably cost $30,000 a year. Even if he flew weekly it would cost a lot less then $30,000 over the course of the year. What I wonder is what in-universe reason will they come up with for Blain staying at McKinley next year without Kurt. A school like Dalton would look way better on his college transcripts then the local public school.

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** Blaine went to a private school that probably cost $30,000 a year. Even if he flew weekly it would cost a lot less then $30,000 over the course of the year. What I wonder is what in-universe reason will they come up with for Blain staying at McKinley [=McKinley=] next year without Kurt. A school like Dalton would look way better on his college transcripts then the local public school.
25th Mar '16 7:13:19 PM QuietTiger
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** Grant is throwing exactly where he should have been. I was wondering, "why rock salt, why not just a regular slushie," so I did some research. Rock salt is used to set dyes in fabric. Note the bright red dyes in the slushie.

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** Grant is throwing exactly where he should have been. I was wondering, "why rock salt, why not just Bit of a regular slushie," so I did some research.GeniusBonus, actually. Rock salt is used to set dyes in fabric. Note the bright red dyes in the slushie.
25th Mar '16 7:05:26 PM QuietTiger
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** Grant is throwing exactly where he should have been. I was wondering, "why rock salt, why not just a regular slushie," so I did some research. Rock salt is used to set dyes in fabric. Note the bright red dyes in the slushie.
27th Dec '15 2:22:07 PM SeptimusHeap
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* How the heck did Sebastien figure the obviously photoshopped picture of Finn would be good blackmail? Couldn't [[IdiotBall Rachel]] and [[IdiotBall Kurt]] potentially just have done the same thing to one of his pictures? [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Shouldn't they have known and countered with that?!"]]

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* How the heck did Sebastien figure the obviously photoshopped picture of Finn would be good blackmail? Couldn't [[IdiotBall Rachel]] and [[IdiotBall Kurt]] potentially just have done the same thing to one of his pictures? [[DarthWiki/WallBanger Shouldn't they have known and countered with that?!"]]that?!"



** Except that in this instance, Sebastian's telling them to their faces that he's going to post the picture. That gives them the opportunity to suggest that should the picture ever see the light of day, Sebastian may find his head perched atop some of the worst debauchery on the internet. That's called a stalemate. Their response certainly shouldn't have been [[DarthWiki/WallBanger "Ok, What do you want?"]] as though the internet was some magical place to which only Sebastian had access. What makes this even ''worse'' is that the two characters in question: Kurt and Rachel, have both been specifically shown to be as vicious as Sebastian when it serves their purposes - so there's no argument to be made that they're not devious enough to have thought of the retort.

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** Except that in this instance, Sebastian's telling them to their faces that he's going to post the picture. That gives them the opportunity to suggest that should the picture ever see the light of day, Sebastian may find his head perched atop some of the worst debauchery on the internet. That's called a stalemate. Their response certainly shouldn't have been [[DarthWiki/WallBanger "Ok, What do you want?"]] want?" as though the internet was some magical place to which only Sebastian had access. What makes this even ''worse'' is that the two characters in question: Kurt and Rachel, have both been specifically shown to be as vicious as Sebastian when it serves their purposes - so there's no argument to be made that they're not devious enough to have thought of the retort.
12th Aug '15 7:15:13 PM BeyondTheBlade
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* My first time using this website, so forgive me if I do it wrong, but I think it made perfect sense. When I was in a new school for one grade only (8th), a boy in the same town who I had gone to elementary school with and now went to a different school than I, committed suicide at the age of 12. I remember clearly finding out because I had been anxious about it being school picture day. I remember the principal and vice principal coming to our classroom just minutes before and talking about Brighton Brown. He asked if we knew about what happened (it had been on the local news, but I hadn't heard), and explained that he had tragically taken his own life. The reasons schools address this is pretty valid: yes, it could prompt other students to hurt themselves, but also because a lot of people that knew him were slightly traumatized by the news, and the principal/teachers wanted us to know that if anyone needed to talk about it, out of school guidance counselors could come in and speak to us one-on-one if we had questions, thoughts, etc. It makes sense that the McKinley staff would want to address it as delicately as possible before EVERYONE found out via the Internet, because, as they put it, Karofsky still had friends at McKinley (not Azimio, obviously) who either didn't know he was gay at that point, or still liked him. I don't know how it works at other schools, but that episode struck as very Truth In Television for me.
29th Jun '15 3:34:45 PM Aetherina
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* Rachel is usually portrayed as pretty smart... So, wouldn't a quick glance around the voting area tell her that stuffing the ballot boxes would be discovered quickly and likely get the person who was in the lead from it disqualified? And if so, why wouldn't she just stuff it with Brittany's name? It'd still have been a jerk move, but Rachel has been known to go very far and be quite devious for her goals and one of her goals at the time was getting Kurt into NYADA so they could continue going to school together in college?
10th May '15 7:55:17 PM nombretomado
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Discuss all issues with ''{{Glee}}'s'' third season here.


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4th Feb '15 7:47:54 AM nsw12b
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**Just to set the record even more straight, according to Ohio statutes, rape is defined as having sexual conduct with someone "when the offender purposely compels the other person to submit by force or threat of force." Blaine definitely was not in a position to either threaten Kurt, or to actually attempt forced sex with him. Even if he was, he didn't attempt to. While this is a fictional character, accusing anyone of rape is a serious accusation that can completely alter a persons life; such allegations should not be thrown around flippantly.




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**Let's all get real. The point of Finn's comeback--a retaliation at the end of a string of verbal abuse that touched all of Finn's sensitivities--was to tell Santana that she is being a coward. The gay issue was just an example of the one of the ways in which she expresses her cowardice. It's clear in the events following that Finn said what he said in a moment of anger, and maybe that he even regrets saying it. When people get angry, they are unable to think about things critically or analytically, and are definitely unable to foresee the consequences of her actions. I think everyone is doing exactly that girl doing; everyone is picking up on the most dramatic issue, and ignoring the actual point of the conversation.
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